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Vonnie Mostat


Yvonne (Vonnie) Mostat, RN

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Whatever you do, DO NOT fail to mention that you are a Celiac if you have to go into your local hospital, even if it is not an admission for celiac disease:-

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It is dangerous not to mention to your nurse, or any nurse treating you, that you are a brittle celiac.  I have had so many "accidental issues" - outbreaks of dermatitis herpetiformis and celiac disease issues. From the nurse that told me she would make me a "Nice cup of tea with some cheese crackers" when I could not get back to sleep one night. She returned with some crackers containing gluten, and when I asked about the cheese, which was a cheese not familiar to me, but not Blue Cheese, which I know contains gluten.  I have had hot chocolate that contained flour, and I have also had some gravy over my potatoes but containing flour as a thickener.  This was after three days in hospital.  Many nurses, even R.N.'s do not know that Soya Sauce contains gluten, and I often wonder what is going on in the kitchen too.  I know, and they say, that the longer you have celiac disease the more "brittle" you become - that means that you possibly cannot tolerate the 20 grams guideline of gluten in foods that they suggest.  After 27 years of living with celiac disease I know I have become more brittle, or sensitive to gluten.  Recently my husband purchased me a nutrition bar while waiting at the Pharmacy,  On the front of the nutrition bar, at the top of the wrapper it had the official Celiac insignia, the wheat sheaf crossed out, so he purchased one, not thinking to check the ingredients.  I enjoyed the first few bites of the bar when I decided to read the back label.  Right at the top, and that usually means it is one of the bigger parts of the nutrition bar, it listed FLOUR.  There are lots of flours, so I called the company, asked them about the "Gluten Free" insignia on the front of the bar package, and I mentioned the "Flour" noted in the ingredients, What often occurs when you call a company like this you are reaching their general reception and not the floor where they make the food article.  So I was told they would call me back.  I waited until the next day, when I could have told them that the nutrition bar did contain gluten.  "Oh No," I was told, that is until I asked them what flour they were using in creating the bar.  Big Silence.  Referred to the General Manager of that Department, and she apologized because it was plain, not acceptable flour. She offered a refund which I refused, but told her that either the Wheat sheaf insignia had to be taken off the bar, or the flour had to change to a gluten free flour. Many people would accept the insignia as the "truth in advertising". I found out that it was not a "cheap Bar'. My husband would not tell me how much he paid for it, but I did find out that he had purchased two of them, one he was going to save until later. I told him to eat the second one because I had a stomach ache, some diarrhea and some DH sores.  "All that from eating half the bar!?" He said. I told him that the longer you live with celiac disease the more sensitive you became to the smallest amounts of gluten. When I became a Celiac 27 years ago I used to gather some icing off the covered cardboard holder for the cake.  Often, there is a LOT of nice gooey icing remaining on the cardboard, and some people take off the created roses off their piece of cake.  Such a travesty for a sweet person's tooth!  I woke up to this fact, but it took me over a year to realize where I was getting "Bitten" by the celiac bug, and it was all my fault.  Since then I have resisted licking any icing from anywhere.  Why they had to use flour in their icing I will never know, but I now manage to restrain myself with icing of any kind. I know it is not good for me, Number One. and Number Two, there is always crumbs attached to the icing, and the longer I suffer with celiac disease the more sensitive I become.  We have only one Chinese Restaurant in Langley that we can trust, where the person that answers the telephone knows my husband and knows about celiac disease.  They do not use MSG, and they tell me what has gluten in it, or flour if they do not understand the gluten part of the question. I do not use the cellulose pre-packaged Soya Sauce or Sesame Seeds or even the oil or the fortune cookie. You become your own detective, and I have learned from my earlier mistakes.  This nutrition bar is the first time I have experienced something like the Logo issue and the ingredients. I will stick with reading the ingredients from hereon in.

Vonnie Mostat

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Vonnie here's one of my "learned from earlier mistakes." Years ago I used to get a rice noodle dish at this one Chinese restaurant because I thought it was gluten free (I asked, repeatedly) but eventually I realized they add soy sauce to it, they literally add it to all the dishes they cook, even the ones it doesn't seem like it. That's why things are so flavorful when there's no msg and it looks like you can see and name every plain ingredient. Can you find Vietnamese restaurants? Their cuisine uses rice for just about everything and relies on roots, herbs, spices, and fish sauce for flavor, not soy sauce. Not sure which country you're in but I've also tons of luck searching for gluten free potstickers and egg rolls and fried rice in the frozen section of the grocery (I searched online then went to the brand's website to see which local stores carried it).

Also if that happened in the USA the company of that nutrition bar would be sued off the planet!! Crazy story, would love to hear a follow up in the future about how they deal with their mishap

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On 1/31/2021 at 10:28 PM, raspberryfirecracker said:

Vonnie here's one of my "learned from earlier mistakes." Years ago I used to get a rice noodle dish at this one Chinese restaurant because I thought it was gluten free (I asked, repeatedly) but eventually I realized they add soy sauce to it, they literally add it to all the dishes they cook, even the ones it doesn't seem like it. That's why things are so flavorful when there's no msg and it looks like you can see and name every plain ingredient. Can you find Vietnamese restaurants? Their cuisine uses rice for just about everything and relies on roots, herbs, spices, and fish sauce for flavor, not soy sauce. Not sure which country you're in but I've also tons of luck searching for gluten free potstickers and egg rolls and fried rice in the frozen section of the grocery (I searched online then went to the brand's website to see which local stores carried it).

Also if that happened in the USA the company of that nutrition bar would be sued off the planet!! Crazy story, would love to hear a follow up in the future about how they deal with their mishap

 

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Just now, Yvonne (Vonnie) Mostat, RN said:

 

It is like we have to be our own "researchers" and have a come back comment, like my physician advised," Are you SURE.  I can become deathly ill ingesting gluten."  Even when they are busy at peak restaurant hours they sure sit up and take note that this person with the big smile on their face could cause them lots of trouble if they could find gluten in their meal.  I used to go to Chinese Restaurants every six months or so here in Langley, and wondered why, even on the way home, my husband had to stop the car for me to vomit. Likely the start of my esophageal damage, vomiting. It was the week following that I suffered with the dermatitis herpetiformis.  My husband, trying to appear positive about DH said, "Well at least you know you have been bitten by something within the past 24 hours. I was not amused, but did thank him for expressing concern and that he was really listening to me.

Vonnie Mostat, R.N.

On 1/18/2022 at 10:07 AM, Joanna24 said:

Thank you! I was tested for minerals and vitamins deficiency. Vitamin B12 was within normal range, but I was never tested for other vitamins B. Maybe this is my problem. Is thiamine 300 mg available otc sufficient or it has to be prescribed by a doctor? I checked at the store I am getting my supplements from, recommend by my doctor, but B-complex they have contains only 50 mg of thiamine. Did you take thiamin as well? How long it took for your symptoms to disappear?

Joanna

 

Just now, Yvonne (Vonnie) Mostat, RN said:

Joanna, do you ever connect a dietician that  you can trust, who has knowledge of vitamin deficiency and celiac disease.  Here in B.C. we have a Health Line that you can telephone and speak to a physician.  They are fully graduated physicians, and sometimes you get a clinical nurse, who is two years away from a physicians degree. I hav e had success with the clinical nurses because they want to find out things themselves, and have often telephoned me back, Lots of foods contain thiamine, but when I got my Vitamins checked last fall they were all very very high, but I was told that was nothing to worry about by my pharmacist.  However, other articles that I have read state that the Celiac person can be deficient in B1. It might be a good idea to look that one up, |(B1 I mean)

 

On 1/31/2021 at 10:28 PM, raspberryfirecracker said:

Vonnie here's one of my "learned from earlier mistakes." Years ago I used to get a rice noodle dish at this one Chinese restaurant because I thought it was gluten free (I asked, repeatedly) but eventually I realized they add soy sauce to it, they literally add it to all the dishes they cook, even the ones it doesn't seem like it. That's why things are so flavorful when there's no msg and it looks like you can see and name every plain ingredient. Can you find Vietnamese restaurants? Their cuisine uses rice for just about everything and relies on roots, herbs, spices, and fish sauce for flavor, not soy sauce. Not sure which country you're in but I've also tons of luck searching for gluten free potstickers and egg rolls and fried rice in the frozen section of the grocery (I searched online then went to the brand's website to see which local stores carried it).

Also if that happened in the USA the company of that nutrition bar would be sued off the planet!! Crazy story, would love to hear a follow up in the future about how they deal with their mishap

 

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Yvonne (Vonnie) Mostat, RN

Tamari Sauce is the only one we use with our Chinese and Japanese cooking, and we cannot tell the difference now.   One has to watch the vinegars they use too, like Chinese vinegar, and wine vinegar. We finally found a Chinese take out restaurant, where the person who takes the order speaks English well, and to our surprise has a mother-in-law who is a celiac.  Bonus!  The cook actually came out and told us in a loud voice, that he swipes out his big WOK before creating any big famiy meals for us.  It is not that we eat out that often, we don't. But I do not want to suffer when eating Chinese food take-out.  Our grown children know that the dish with that funny spoon in it is for Nana.  The dried ribs are gluten free and the chop suey is gluten free as is their Egg Fu Yung, so I don't go hungry.

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