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    Gluten and Psychiatric Symptoms

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    Journal of Gluten Sensitivity Autumn 2006 Issue. NOTE: This article is from a back issue of our popular subscription-only paper newsletter. Some content may be outdated.

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    Celiac.com 10/29/2021 - Ron Hoggan's book Dangerous Grains has been an enormous help toward understanding something bizarre that happened to my 19 year old son, Lee, in the past year.

    Lee suddenly began acting psychotic one day last October and eventually had what appeared to be some kind of seizure. He lay on the couch, tensed up, and started shaking violently. His eyes were rolling back into his head and he was vocalizing loudly. After a period of time he came out of it and was somewhat lucid but seemed dazed, and very confused. 

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    We took him to the emergency room where he underwent a battery of tests that revealed nothing out of the ordinary. During the wait, he had two more of the seizure-like episodes. A psychiatrist was phoned and he was given neuroleptic drugs. He went to the epilepsy ward for further testing -EEG, CT scans and MRI's that did not reveal anything obviously wrong. Fortunately, we were able to stay with him.

    On the morning of the second day he seemed better and we talked while he ate breakfast. Thirty minutes later he was having an episode- again shaking and vocalizing, and after a couple of hours started to come out of it. We noticed this pattern- eating, followed shortly afterward by seizure-like episodes and psychosis which gradually cleared enough to converse. I started to notice what he was eating and the common denominator was wheat. I gave him some rice and vegetables from home and there was no reaction, but bagels, bread, muffins and gravy all seemed to bring about the same violent reaction. I have food allergies and am aware that wheat is a common allergen (I learned to avoid it years ago), but I couldn't understand how he could be affected in such an extreme manner, so quickly after eating.

    He was moved to a locked psychiatric ward, diagnosed with possible bipolar disorder or non-specific schizophrenia, and the neuroleptics were continued. Of course, his psychiatrist didn't want to hear about my observations regarding Lee's apparent reaction to wheat. (My wife and daughter also witnessed it on several occasions.) I told the psychiatrist that Lee hadn't been having any mental changes lately but had been complaining about digestive problems and I requested a biopsy to confirm celiac disease. It was promptly denied, but I was able to get the hospital dietitian to put him on a gluten-free diet (unknown to the psychiatrist who rarely saw him, but was happy to prescribe ever increasing doses of neuroleptics). The seizures stopped the very next day- the staff no doubt assumed the drugs were having an effect in spite of my revelation about the gluten-free diet.

    Over the next several weeks Lee became more psychotic and suffered terrible side-effects from the drugs. The county brought him to court and had him committed. He was ordered to continue the neuroleptics, and there seemed to be little we could do. Eventually he was sent to a halfway house, but a couple of weeks after arriving he started to become catatonic. (I had told the staff about the wheat reaction but they were unable to provide a gluten-free diet). We took him to the emergency room where we learned that he was extremely dehydrated. He had lost the urge to eat or drink and was becoming very psychotic. The hospital was full, so he was sent to a sister hospital. By the time the ambulance arrived, he was completely catatonic - unable to speak and incontinent.

    At the new hospital, he had a new psychiatrist. She was alarmed at the dosages of drugs he was receiving and felt he was probably experiencing the beginning of ‘neuroleptic malignant syndrome,' a potentially fatal reaction to neuroleptics. The drugs were discontinued but he remained catatonic and was given Electro Convulsive Treatment several times a week. (I also spoke with the dietician when he was admitted and had Lee placed on a gluten-free diet - which was halfheartedly followed). After a few ECT treatments (and a mostly gluten-free diet) he started to come out of it. His new doctor began to realize that he didn't seem to have any mental illness at all (now that the neuroleptics had been discontinued, the catatonia was lifting and diet was improving) and called in several specialists for a more thorough evaluation. 

    I told her about the reaction to wheat but she refused to believe there could be a connection. Finally, another neurologist was brought in and he had the insight to give him a gliadan antibody test and found that he was extremely reactive. He was finally "officially" put on a gluten-free diet (we had been bringing him food from home and doing everything we could behind the scenes to keep gluten from him). He continued to improve, in spite of the side effects of the ECT.

    His psychiatrist couldn't really understand what was going on with him but began to trust us enough to release him, drug-free, into our care. Three months after the ordeal began, he finally came home and is clearer now than he's been in years. He's always been kind of quiet and we realize now that gluten has probably been affecting him for years. He has done an excellent job of following the gluten-free diet, is working full time, and starts college in a few weeks.

    Shortly after he came home, my mother came across Dangerous Grains and bought it for me. It all finally makes sense and I plan to send copies to Lee's psychiatrist and neurologist. We saw countless people in the locked psychiatric wards who were suffering and, with the exception of the chemical dependencies everyone was on some type of drug or drugs. Many were receiving ECT on a routine basis. I know my son is not unique - testing and gluten-free diets could save many of these poor souls from a lifetime of drugs and suffering. I want to do everything I can to increase the knowledge of these professionals and Dangerous Grains seems the perfect vehicle.

    So great thanks to Ron Hoggan (and Dr. Braly and the rest) for doing what you're doing. I know it's only a matter of time before the people that control the mental health system become enlightened enough to stop doing harm and truly begin to heal these patients. It was a close call for us and I realize Lee is a living example.


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    My experience isn’t nearly as extreme as your son’s, but nevertheless…

    I remember having digestive problems as a small child, frequently asking to stay home from school. I only asked this when it was extreme, because my mother, who my entire life had experienced depression and mood swings, would always treat digestive issues with a cold water enema. The woman definitely had some strange ways.

    As an adult I had long suspected that I had Celiac Disease, but the “gold standard” blood test always came back negative. My depression and mood swings began in my early teens, and as a young adult I sought out a therapist. This helped me resolve many childhood issues, but the depression and mood swings remained.

    When I was 53 I started seeing a naturopath. One of the first things he suspected was Celiac Disease, despite telling him that all prior testing had been negative. He persisted despite my testing history. He had me tested by a lab that does stool testing, and the result was interesting: positive, but low. It turns out that I had Celiac Disease so bad that my body was actually giving up on creating antibodies (later testing after starting the gluten-free diet saw a sharp rise, then with time a decline). I had additional testing, to include genetic testing, and the results were that I definitely had Celiac Disease.

    I immediately started eating gluten-free, and the results were nothing short of amazing. The turnaround in my health was impressive, and after 6 months I decided to take it further. With the approval and guidance of my psychiatrist, I slowly titered down and off of all of my psychotropic medications. By the end of the first year on the gluten-free diet, I was off of all mood stabilizers, benzodiazepines and antidepressants. My psychiatrist actually dismissed me from her care, claiming that my psychiatric problems had obviously been caused by Celiac Disease all along.

    I am 67 now and religiously follow the diet. I have been accidentally “glutened” 3 times, and each time the main affect was psychiatric. I lost my husband 9 years ago, and while traumatic, I got through my grief without the need for antidepressants.

    I was very lucky that I had a psychiatrist who was open to other causes for psychiatric disorders. But I have to say that there’s still an awful lot of ignorance in the medical community concerning Celiac Disease. There’s also still a big problem with many hospitals not fully understanding how necessary the gluten-free diet is for people with Celiac Disease. I have other health problems so I have been hospitalized frequently, and far too many times I’ve encountered hospitals that literally did not know what to feed me. This was not a big issue when my husband was still alive, but now that I’m widowed and on my own (save one child who lives close and is an EMT currently in nursing school), this absolutely terrifies me. I have fought with more than one nurse about specific foods not being gluten-free and being told that I’m being extreme. Yes, yes I am. And for good reason.

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    On 11/3/2021 at 5:10 PM, Guest OldNavyWife said:

    My experience isn’t nearly as extreme as your son’s, but nevertheless…

    I remember having digestive problems as a small child, frequently asking to stay home from school. I only asked this when it was extreme, because my mother, who my entire life had experienced depression and mood swings, would always treat digestive issues with a cold water enema. The woman definitely had some strange ways.

    As an adult I had long suspected that I had Celiac Disease, but the “gold standard” blood test always came back negative. My depression and mood swings began in my early teens, and as a young adult I sought out a therapist. This helped me resolve many childhood issues, but the depression and mood swings remained.

    When I was 53 I started seeing a naturopath. One of the first things he suspected was Celiac Disease, despite telling him that all prior testing had been negative. He persisted despite my testing history. He had me tested by a lab that does stool testing, and the result was interesting: positive, but low. It turns out that I had Celiac Disease so bad that my body was actually giving up on creating antibodies (later testing after starting the gluten-free diet saw a sharp rise, then with time a decline). I had additional testing, to include genetic testing, and the results were that I definitely had Celiac Disease.

    I immediately started eating gluten-free, and the results were nothing short of amazing. The turnaround in my health was impressive, and after 6 months I decided to take it further. With the approval and guidance of my psychiatrist, I slowly titered down and off of all of my psychotropic medications. By the end of the first year on the gluten-free diet, I was off of all mood stabilizers, benzodiazepines and antidepressants. My psychiatrist actually dismissed me from her care, claiming that my psychiatric problems had obviously been caused by Celiac Disease all along.

    I am 67 now and religiously follow the diet. I have been accidentally “glutened” 3 times, and each time the main affect was psychiatric. I lost my husband 9 years ago, and while traumatic, I got through my grief without the need for antidepressants.

    I was very lucky that I had a psychiatrist who was open to other causes for psychiatric disorders. But I have to say that there’s still an awful lot of ignorance in the medical community concerning Celiac Disease. There’s also still a big problem with many hospitals not fully understanding how necessary the gluten-free diet is for people with Celiac Disease. I have other health problems so I have been hospitalized frequently, and far too many times I’ve encountered hospitals that literally did not know what to feed me. This was not a big issue when my husband was still alive, but now that I’m widowed and on my own (save one child who lives close and is an EMT currently in nursing school), this absolutely terrifies me. I have fought with more than one nurse about specific foods not being gluten-free and being told that I’m being extreme. Yes, yes I am. And for good reason.

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    Hallo . Thank you for your interesting story and the fact that you didn't give up on finding the root cause of your problems. 

    I am 40, a female , currently on antidepressants that don't really work for me and a persistent agoraphobia.  I always had problems with my gut. Extreme bloating, weight that doesn't really correspond with my the amount of food I am eating, an unexplained high LDL . I also have a lot of gas my stomach aches now and then , I also have some kind of sun sensitivity and my skin looks like what they call chicken skin. Most of all and above all though I have this brain fog and a persistent bad mood that doesn't really go away. I went to the Gastroenterologist he gave me a blood test for celiac came out negative. Recently another neurologist sent me for ANA test for autoimmune disorder which came out Positive. I surely suspect that there is something with my diet that needs to change. My family don't really understand me though they even laugh at me when I say that maybe if I stop eating processed food maybe my gut will heal and help me with my mood. I don't understand qhy psychiatrists they just write down a pill and they don't send you to check out your gut to see if it is working properly. What other tests should I do. I will go gluten free( actually this is my third day now) 

    I have tried in the past to go gluten free and I immediately noticed my gut and belly clean and less bloated so I strongly believe there is some connection there with my mood ad well. 

    The human body is not supposed to anything else except for what one hunts and takes from a tree. LIKE MEAT VEGETABLES AND FRUITS. When I say this to the people I know they don't understand but I do believe that.

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    15 minutes ago, Moulinrouge82 said:

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    Hallo . Thank you for your interesting story and the fact that you didn't give up on finding the root cause of your problems. 

    I am 40, a female , currently on antidepressants that don't really work for me and a persistent agoraphobia.  I always had problems with my gut. Extreme bloating, weight that doesn't really correspond with my the amount of food I am eating, an unexplained high LDL . I also have a lot of gas my stomach aches now and then , I also have some kind of sun sensitivity and my skin looks like what they call chicken skin. Most of all and above all though I have this brain fog and a persistent bad mood that doesn't really go away. I went to the Gastroenterologist he gave me a blood test for celiac came out negative. Recently another neurologist sent me for ANA test for autoimmune disorder which came out Positive. I surely suspect that there is something with my diet that needs to change. My family don't really understand me though they even laugh at me when I say that maybe if I stop eating processed food maybe my gut will heal and help me with my mood. I don't understand qhy psychiatrists they just write down a pill and they don't send you to check out your gut to see if it is working properly. What other tests should I do. I will go gluten free( actually this is my third day now) 

    I have tried in the past to go gluten free and I immediately noticed my gut and belly clean and less bloated so I strongly believe there is some connection there with my mood ad well. 

    The human body is not supposed to anything else except for what one hunts and takes from a tree. LIKE MEAT VEGETABLES AND FRUITS. When I say this to the people I know they don't understand but I do believe that.

    Welcome to the forum, Moulinrouge82!

    Just be aware that if you ever want to have anymore testing done for celiac disease you would need to go back on gluten for 2 weeks (endoscopy/biopsy) or 6-8 weeks for an antibody test in order for the testing to be valid. Have you considered also that you may have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity)? It has many of the same symptoms as celiac disease but does not damage the small intestine villi. There is not test fro NCGS so celiac disease must first be ruled out. NCGS is 10-12 more common than celiac disease. The antidote is the same, total abstinence from gluten.

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    12 minutes ago, trents said:

    Welcome to the forum, Moulinrouge82!

    Just be aware that if you ever want to have anymore testing done for celiac disease you would need to go back on gluten for 2 weeks (endoscopy/biopsy) or 6-8 weeks for an antibody test in order for the testing to be valid. Have you considered also that you may have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity)? It has many of the same symptoms as celiac disease but does not damage the small intestine villi. There is not test fro NCGS so celiac disease must first be ruled out. NCGS is 10-12 more common than celiac disease. The antidote is the same, total abstinence from gluten.

    Thank you for your response. I do believe that I have NCGS . I had made a list of all the symptoms and I think that this is the answer tomy problems . It will take time and I have nothing to lose. To some extent I think we all have kind of intolerance since we are not evolved enough to process farm products( wheat, barley, rye) 

    I just started reading forum stories and I identify with a lot of these people so I am hopeful. 

     

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    34 minutes ago, Moulinrouge82 said:

    Thank you for your response. I do believe that I have NCGS . I had made a list of all the symptoms and I think that this is the answer tomy problems . It will take time and I have nothing to lose. To some extent I think we all have kind of intolerance since we are not evolved enough to process farm products( wheat, barley, rye) 

    I just started reading forum stories and I identify with a lot of these people so I am hopeful. 

     

    There are a number of theories seeking to explain the rise in gluten-related diseases, if indeed there has been an increase in the last several decades. It could be the case that the incidence is not any higher than it ever has been but rather, we have just gotten better at diagnosing it. But for all intents and purposes we believe it is on the increase which, if true, would be contra indicative of an evolution process. The evolutionary principle of natural selection would seem to say that the population would have become more tolerant of gluten over time instead of less tolerant. Better explanations IMO are built around things like misuse/overuse of antibiotics and the manipulation of the gluten component in grains through hybridization. Grain cultivars now have multiple times the amount of gluten that is found in their wild ancestors. We also know from studies that those with celiac disease have different proportions of microorganisms than those who don't have celiac disease. Is this from misurse/overuse of antibiotics and/or preservatives?

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    It is all of the above you mentioned and in combination with the mere fact that we are being seen as buyers and consumers and not as human beings. Uiu go to a supermarket for example 80 percent of what is in the shelves has been processed in a small or big way. Vegetables are full of pesticides, meat is full in antibiotics. 

    It would be interesting to see how all these have an effect on the rise of  certain diseases and also by country. Generally I think one should eat as raw( except meat of course) and less  as possible.  Also if gut is our second brain we should definitely correlate any kind of mental disorder with gut disorder(s). That is why I get agitated and upset with psychiatrists that they don't ever mention this. 

    Some people are more sensitive and I also find this interesting that sensitive people tend to have stomach anxiety gut issues. 

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    Excuse my typos.  

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    3 hours ago, Moulinrouge82 said:

    Excuse my typos.  

    Not a problem. We all do that. Making sense grammatically and syntactically is more important than spelling and you don't have a problem with that. Some on the forum have a hard time putting together coherent sentences. I guess we can just chalk it up to gluten-induced brain fog.

    3 hours ago, Moulinrouge82 said:

    It is all of the above you mentioned and in combination with the mere fact that we are being seen as buyers and consumers and not as human beings. Uiu go to a supermarket for example 80 percent of what is in the shelves has been processed in a small or big way. Vegetables are full of pesticides, meat is full in antibiotics. 

    Most of that has to do with our food distribution system where things are shipped long distances and stored for long periods of time. We don't do our grocery shopping in the West in open air markets. And also keeping loss and cost down to the producer which is passed on to the consumer. Eliminating antibiotics will result in more dead cows and chickens. Elimination of pesticides will result in crop failure. I agree, these things probably have a negative impact on our health but so does starvation. Yes, eat fresh when and where you can.

     

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    For depression, try raising your vitamin D intake to target 80 ng/ml. It takes me 10,000 iu a day to maintain it. (Seasonal Affective Disorder). I was always depressed until I increased D. At 7000 a day, nothing. For anxiety try 5 mg Lithium Orotate. It reduces the intensity of the need to act. In Texas a study compared the incidence of groundwater Lithium to violence by county. Counties with Lithium had less suicide and drug abuse.

    For me the lithium orotate works similar to Buspirone and the vitamin D: Priceless.

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    meat is full in antibiotics

    While everyone is advertising No Antibiotics it hasn't changed the trajectory of metabolic disease. Look instead at the omega 6: omega 3 ratio as a result of the feed supplements to increase production.

     

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    12 hours ago, Wheatwacked said:

    For depression, try raising your vitamin D intake to target 80 ng/ml. It takes me 10,000 iu a day to maintain it. (Seasonal Affective Disorder). I was always depressed until I increased D. At 7000 a day, nothing. For anxiety try 5 mg Lithium Orotate. It reduces the intensity of the need to act. In Texas a study compared the incidence of groundwater Lithium to violence by county. Counties with Lithium had less suicide and drug abuse.

    For me the lithium orotate works similar to Buspirone and the vitamin 😧 Priceless.

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    While everyone is advertising No Antibiotics it hasn't changed the trajectory of metabolic disease. Look instead at the omega 6: omega 3 ratio as a result of the feed supplements to increase production.

     

    I was tested for Vitamin D and I am deficient. I read that generally a lot of people are deficient in Vitamin D which is somewhat weird especially for me here in Greece where I live. Pandemic conditions exacerbated the problem. O am started taking supplements as well as a b complex one with my antidepressant of course.  And full abstinence for gluten. I hope it will help me. 🙏 

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    One thing I wish though would be to be more emotionally supported which I am not. My mother has IBS chronic issues with her gut and hypothyroidism.  She just takes her pills and eats like there is no tomorrow.  My father on the other hand never had any health problem in his adulthood. He is 84 now with two stents though. My brother's and sister do not eat healthy. My depression is mystery to them they just don't understand.  Emotional support is one thing. Good thing that people are sharing their stories here

     

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    Lithium has been taken off our diet. The word derives from λήθη which is a Greek word for "forgetting your worries" There were water springs in Greece , lithium enriched and they used to go there in ancient times "wash their worries off in a way"

    Even Sprite was Lithium enriched and that has been taken off from the drink.

    So basically  it is a good think for your body. 

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