Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Canker Sores


megsybeth

Recommended Posts

megsybeth Enthusiast

One of my most recent symptoms before diagnosis was cankers sores. I've had them all my life. Other celiac symptoms went away over the years but these stuck. Since going gluten free I get them occasionally and mentioned to my celiac specialist and she says the symptoms can last a while. But they're getting a lot better and less comon.

 

Today my son, who is 4 and gluten intollerant, showed me has first canker sore. And I have one. I've heard some people get them when glutened. Anyone else? I'm not sure what could be new, checked all our supplements. The only restaurant we've been to is Chipotle which has been good to us so far. I'm just wondering if I should eliminate some foods or if it's a coincidence we both have them.

 

Thanks for any advice!
Megan


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



shadowicewolf Proficient

It could be a cc issue. Its been known to happen :(

 

Hope you start feeling better. I read somewhere that honey helps to heal them.

GF Lover Rising Star

I get them whenever my immune system acts up.  I swab with vinegar to hurry them along.

JNBunnie1 Community Regular

Without other symptoms, I wouldn't consider canker sores to be a sign of a glutening,

although it is possible. I found that any commercial toothpaste gives me canker sores,

I now have to use liquid soap to brush my teeth (you get used to it....). All it is is a

localized bacterial infection. I find that zinc lozenges kick the crap out of them. I hold

the lozenge against it for as long as I can, until it melts away. It also numbs the canker

sore, which is good, cuz those buggers hurt! Also avoiding sugar helps, as with any

illness.

EmiPark210 Contributor

I get them when I've had too much sugar coupled with stress. Everyone has their own causes but if you've still been getting them without gluten then it doesn't seem like it's a CC sign, though it's ways worth checking things every once and a while.

gluten-is-kryptonite Apprentice

I used to get them all the time growing up and then once i got diagnosed with Celiac last year and got completely off gluten I no longer get canker sores (or the laundry list of other symptoms).

 

If i get glutened accidentally I always will get a canker sore a few days later. Every time!!

 

If you are still getting canker sores I would ask if you by any chance are getting a small amount of gluten. Do you use a separate toaster? Are you getting cross contamination without knowing it?

VeggieGal Contributor

After my positive blood test and then being referred to the hospital, one of the first questions the specialist asked me was "do you get mouth ulcers?" so I guess it must be related. I used to get them as a kid but thats all. My 11 yr old son gets them all the time but he tested negative on a home testing kit , but of course its not the full panel. I used to just think they were caused by being run down and too much sugar.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



birdie22 Enthusiast

I've had them since I was a child. I always assumed it was acidic food, and later on, hormonal. Since going gluten-free in Nov '11 they all but disappeared. I do still get one every now and then. Usually they are tiny and come/go within a few days, unlike before when they'd get huge and take forever to heal. Sadly, I've had two horrible ones back to back this month, each lasting at least 7 days and one immediately following the other. I chalk it up to cc issue as my husband and kids are not gluten-free.

 

I've heard that SLS free toothpaste helps (I used Rembrandt C) as well as B12 and l-lysine.

Sharon-1 Newbie

My sons canker sores were severe. It was between that and his constantly complaining about his stomach aches that pushed me to take him to a specialist.  My family doctor tested for h pylori, it came back negative.  I just had the feeling that he was wrong.  After an upper and lower Gi we found he did have the h pylori bacteria and not long after we started on meds for it his test results came back saying he was positive for Celiacs.  Wow what a moment to finally find out what the problem was after so long of fighting it.  He had mouth sores so severely that it actually scared his mouth.  He could not even get braces which he needs badly.  Now we are on the right track. I can tell when he has something he is not suppose to eat because his mouth breaks out.  I currently give him B complex and lysene every day. He has aspergers and ADHD also.  His melt downs have been fewer and he is currently doing a little better in school.   His father has always had mouth sores also.  We had him tested for celiacs but it came back negative.  He has all of the symptoms including osteoporosis   He just had a hip replacement and is only 53 years old.  He has not complained of a mouth sore since I insisted we all go gluten free.  I am currently still learning about all of the wheat products and I am still amazed at the items with wheat in them.  I am grateful to have forums like this one to help. 

  • 3 months later...
Pegleg84 Collaborator

I realize I'm reviving an old topic, but might as well add to it rather than starting a new one.

I'm dealing with a nasty nasty sore right now. I almost couldn't get to sleep last night the pain was so bad.

I used to get them a lot pre-gluten-free, and now they only show up if I've been glutened or have a cold or something. It's usually a sure sign that I'm still recovering from some damage.

I've had this one for almost a week, so need to do something serious to force it to heal (It's in a really bad spot, constantly rubbing against my teeth, so any protective gel stuff rubs right off). I've done a salt pack (PAIN!!) which does help a bit, but I'll try the vinegar instead. Apple cider vinegar is my new cure-all.
Taking lots of vitamin c, b12, and zinc is also supposed to help.

 

Anyone else have canker-killing tips?

ImaMiriam Apprentice

I'd like to hear any remedies, too! My daughter says she has these mouth sores a lot, and I found out that Anbesol has gluten in it. So we have nothing now.

 

How do you know if it's the toothpaste? I thought that all toothpaste is gluten-free. If it's not, I gotta go check them all right away before anyone brushes their teeth tonight!!!!

 

Can anyone recommend gluten-free zinc lozenges? That sounds like a good idea -- are there any side effects to these?

 

Thanks!

Pegleg84 Collaborator

Some toothpastes do have gluten, but its not common. I'm sure there's a thread or two around about which are/aren't. Some people do find other ingredients in toothpaste to be irritating, like sulphites and other nastiness (yet toothpaste is one of the few non-all-natural things I still use).

 

I tried the vinegar (unfiltered apple cider vinegar, with the mother, which is kind of a cure-all) and it seems to be helping. It's starting to heal, and being less of a pain. Hopefully will be gone by the end of the week. Instead of swabbing, I rinced my mouth with a bit, concentrating on the sore area. It stings, but not as bad as salt.

birdie22 Enthusiast

Prescription orabase pastes work well. My PCP gave me an RX but your dentist could too. Just dob it on with a Qtip before bed. It's gritty and gross tasting/feeling but it does help cut down the pain and longevity of a nasty sore.

GF Lover Rising Star

There is this stuff called Swish And Swirl.  My Oncologist gave it to me when my immune system crashed and canker sores were killing me.  It's a Rx.  Easy to use and tastes fine.  You swish in mouth and swallow.  Speeds healing and works to decrease severity.  And GP can prescribe it.

 

Colleen 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Insomnia help

    2. - TheDHhurts posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      need help understanding testing result for Naked Nutrition Creatine please

    3. - cristiana replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      15

      Insomnia help

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,107
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Maggie1349
    Newest Member
    Maggie1349
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @cristiana,  I react the same way.  Dairy consumption flushes out my digestive system within an hour, too! As casein is digested, it forms casomorphins that bind to opioid receptors in our bodies.  This is similar to digested gluten peptides being able to attach to opioid receptors in our bodies.   We have opioid receptors throughout our bodies including lots in the digestive tract. Casein raises tTg IgA antibodies just like gluten consumption does, which leads to further intestinal damage and continuing inflammation.  No wonder our bodies react to it by pushing the "emergency evacuation" ejection seat button! The mother of my childhood friend was British and introduced me to drinking tea properly with milk or cream.  I miss it so much.  And chocolate ice cream.  Not worth the after effects, though.  I've found taking Omega Three supplements (flaxseed oil, sunflower seed oil, evening primrose oil) helps shake those dairy cravings.   Green leafy veggies like broccoli, kale, and greens (mustard, turnip, collards) are great sources of calcium.  Avoid spinach as it is high in oxalates that block calcium absorption and may cause kidney stones.  Yes, more leafy greens are needed to reach the same amount of calcium in a glass of milk, but the greens have other benefits, like increased dietary fiber and polyphenols that act as antioxidants, reduce inflammation, and promote health.   Exposure to gluten (and casein in those sensitive to it) can cause an increased immune response and inflammation for months afterwards.  The immune cells that make tTg IgA antibodies which are triggered today are going to live for about two years. During that time, inflammation is heightened.  Those immune cells only replicate when triggered.  If those immune cells don't get triggered again for about two years, they die without leaving any descendents programmed to trigger on gluten and casein.  The immune system forgets gluten and casein need to be attacked.  The Celiac genes turn off.  This is remission.   Some people in remission report being able to consume gluten again without consequence.  Another triggering event can turn the Celiac genes on again.   Celiac genes are turned on by a triggering event (physical or emotional stress).  There's some evidence that thiamine insufficiency contributes to the turning on of autoimmune genes.  There is an increased biological need for thiamine when we are physically or emotionally stressed.  Thiamine cannot be stored for more than twenty-one days and may be depleted in as little as three during physical and emotional stresses. Mitochondria without sufficient thiamine become damaged and don't function properly.  This gets relayed to the genes and autoimmune disease genes turn on.  Thiamine and other B vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are needed to replace the dysfunctional mitochondria and repair the damage to the body.  
    • TheDHhurts
      Hi, I bought Naked Nutrition Creatine. It lists itself as gluten free but is not certified. (It used to be, but they dropped it in the past year or two apparently.) I wrote the company and asked them what testing results they had for creatine and they sent me the attached, which says the test result for gluten is <0.025MCG. I'm used to seeing test results as ppm, so I'm not sure what <0.025MCG means. Can it be converted to ppm easily? I want to confirm that it is safe to use.
    • cristiana
      When I was still recovering my gastroenterologist suggested I bought lactofree product as I was very bloated.  So I bought some from the supermarket and from memory, I drank a nice big glass of milk - and it went right through me literally within an hour or so, if my memory serves correctly.  I came off dairy completely next and it worked like a charm, but started to reintroduce quite gradually it as I missed it! To this day, if I overdo dairy products, they work like a mild laxative.  I've never wanted to give up milk completely as I like it so much, and my mum had osteoporosis and it's an easy way of getting calcium.  But it doesn't really 'sit' well with me.   You may need to experiment a bit as when I was healing certain dairy products were worse than others - I could cope with one brand of Greek yoghurt, but I got extremely and painfully bloated with another brand of live British yoghurt.  
    • wellthatsfun
      i have been strictly gluten free for 7 months. this includes avoiding anything that may contain gluten and making sure surfaces and appliances are clean. i am 18 years old in australia and my tTG-IgA results were 69U/mL, pretty low compared to most people's, for reference. i feel the exact same as before. sure, i was pretty much asymptomatic/silent. the worst i'd get was occasionally bad stools and pitting of the nails/brittle hair since early childhood - and i was diagnosed with low iron and vitamin d which checks out due to easy bruising and such. but those symptoms have remained. maybe i'm jumping the gun, sure. i know it can take years to fully heal. but being over half a year in, i feel that i should be, y'know, healing. i'm nearly at my wits end and wondering if i should have a piece of bread or something to see how i go - to see if i possibly have refractory? my mental health is declining as i feel myself wanting to bang my head against a damn wall out of frustration every day. cravings haven't gotten better. look, i love the stuff i still can have, like salads and such. OH! i haven't lost any weight, which is mind boggling considering i eat very healthily now! i've always been on the chubbier side which is atypical of coeliac. i just don't know what's going on with me. i try to remain hopeful but i'm just so sad all the time. thanks for reading  
    • trents
      @Charlie1946There is a PM (Personal Message) tool built into the forum website that allows you to send a private message to other forum users. Just hover over their name with your mouse cursor and the menu containing that tool will pop up. This is useful if you want to communicate with an individual without everyone else involved in the thread seeing it.  Are you realizing that in my PPI taper down recommendations in an earlier post above, I was responding not to your posts but to @Caligirl57? If you must use a PPI, I certainly would advise taking the lowest dose that is effective for you.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.