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Patt Explorer

I went to a party Friday night. never thought about the possibility of gluten in a drink

Does sourpuss (raspberry) contain gluten?

I had a bunch of things but the sourpuss is the only thing I have not been able to find on google?

ive been feeling particularly sad for the last 2 days so I know I have been contaminated Somewhere

just for fun here is what I drank:

a Sling (dont what kind if any)

a pornstar

spiced rum (are there different kinds)

tequila

jaguermeister bombs

 

I think thats it


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kareng Grand Master

I went to a party Friday night. never thought about the possibility of gluten in a drink

Does sourpuss (raspberry) contain gluten?

I had a bunch of things but the sourpuss is the only thing I have not been able to find on google?

ive been feeling particularly sad for the last 2 days so I know I have been contaminated Somewhere

just for fun here is what I drank:

a Sling (dont what kind if any)

a pornstar

spiced rum (are there different kinds)

tequila

jaguermeister bombs

I think thats it

Sounds like a lot of alcohol. I have no clue what is in these drinks, except straight tequila. Do you know? Maybe it's not a particular alcohol but the amount? Or the mixing of different kinds? Or the other parts of the drinks? Or what you ate without thinking when you were drunk?
Patt Explorer

I did a little research and I think there was whiskey involved and gin

there was sourpuss and blue curacao (sp?) but I have no clue whats in that

I can generally hold my liquor well. rarely get hangovers even after 1 litter of wine ,im 100lbs so I think 1 litter is alot considering. im not sure with hard liquor but it seems in my experience wine will affect you more/faster than hard liquor?

all I can figure is it has to be the whiskey because I am feeling blue and its been 2 days

kareng Grand Master

Whiskey is distilled - that makes it gluten-free. Here is an article about alcohol. Wine is 12% alcohol and whiskey 40%? I'll look that up and fix the numbers in a minute.

https://www.celiac.com/articles/23350/1/Common-Misunderstandings-of-Gluten-Free-Alcoholic-Beverages/Page1.html

As our guts heal, we absorb things better - alcohol included. Also, it's never a good idea for a Celiac to eat or drink things unless they know what is in them.

Ok. I'm back.

Approximate percentages of average alcohol content.

Wine - 10-15%

Whiskey - 40-50%

Tequila- 40-50%

Rum- 40-50%

GottaSki Mentor

And Jagermeister is 70 percent!

 

Anyone who mixes Jager with tequila, rum and whiskey is going to feel pretty darn bad for more than a day - celiac or not.

 

Just my opinion here...but if you want to let loose...go for it, but try to stick to one type of alcohol.

 

Drink lots of water.

 

Hope you feel better soon!

Patt Explorer

ok, i just thought that because it was wheat/grain based that it was the culprit. I saw on this site that it may still affect some ppl

 

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kareng Grand Master

ok, i just thought that because it was wheat/grain based that it was the culprit. I saw on this site that it may still affect some ppl

 

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If all you had was a couple of whiskeys, maybe you could say you have some issue with it. But, it sounds like you had at least 5 hard alcohol drinks. Who knows what you might have eaten after all that? But it's likely just the sheer volume of alcohol that is making you sick.


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IrishHeart Veteran

Guess you never heard the expression  "don't mix your poisons", kiddo.

 

I can drink, but I would never mix all those together and expect to feel okay the next day (or the next week)

 

I'm surprised you didn't hurl your brains out.

 

You may want to take it easy on your gut. 

Patt Explorer

hmmm i did want to hurl for about 30 minutes, it was the spiced rum that stuck with me. wayy to sweet for my taste

what confuses me is it didnt feel like a hangover? I just felt depressed and anxious and angry. this is why I was leaning towards gluten rather than hangover. with a hangover my joints always hurt from dehydration, weird as that sounds

kareng Grand Master

This is deviating from a discussion about gluten but - you had 6 or more hard alcohol drinks. You could have died. You may have eaten something and you don't remember. You drank things you didn't know the ingredients of. Please, be more careful with yourself.

That's my mom rant. I think I am done here.

LauraTX Rising Star

Also, alcohol can alter your brain chemistry, especially if taken in large amounts.  Some people do fine when they drink but the day or two afterwards they are severely depressed.  You don't have to be an alcoholic for it to have this effect, either.  It is just how the body reacts sometimes, especially if you normally do not drink large amounts.  Basically a large ingestion will alter your brain chemistry and then there is a crash after that causes depression and moodiness, and that could be what you are experiencing.  Open Original Shared Link  This kind of hits at the brain chemistry changes alcohol can cause, you can google search if you want more info.  

 

Also, being drunk can make you forget to not eat certain things.  We had a party for my brother in law, and his friend ate a sandwich with sprouts in it, which he is very allergic to.  He was in the hospital for the next week, and his wife was very angry with him.  So now he knows to watch out for himself better, especially since with him it can be life or death.  And if he lives through it his wife might kill him!  Haha.

Starving Amy Rookie

1. As a bartender - If I serve someone more than three times, I keep a close eye on them for the rest of the night. There's a few drinks and then there's just too many. I will refuse to serve you if you stumble up to my bar, have motor issues getting your money/credit card out, or appear in any other way "too drunk." I've been known to pour water into booze once someone gets to a certain point. Or I'll just make you drink water. If you were at a bar - your bartender should be fired. They broke a law by over serving you.

 

2. Don't mix your liquor. Such a rookie mistake. ;)

2.5 Clear liquors aren't as hard on your stomach as dark liquors. Wine is the best. Any flavored or sugared liquor is just … disgusting. Bartenders shake their heads every time they have to pour blue curaçao. Sounds like you probably had yourself a L.A. water, another variation of the disgusting Long Island Ice Tea. 

 

3. The consensus is still out on gluten and liquor. My bff is gluten intolerant and cannot drink whiskey, gin, beer or she becomes instantly narcoleptic. She does great on wines and gluten free beers and ciders. I, myself, LOVE whiskey and gin. NOT TOGETHER, btw. But I have noticed as I progress into figuring my issues out that the whiskey causes stomach upset similar to a gluten reaction. And the gin and whiskey contribute to my cystic acne. Since I haven't drank them in the last 2 weeks, I've been feeling better. And when I drink - I have one. Two at the most. So I know I wasn't ill from over drinking. 

 

4. If you have any other questions about being a better, more refined pro at drinking - ask me. But what you listed above was very amateur. I hope you're over 21. And I am glad you didn't end up in the hospital.

Patt Explorer

1. As a bartender - If I serve someone more than three times, I keep a close eye on them for the rest of the night. There's a few drinks and then there's just too many. I will refuse to serve you if you stumble up to my bar, have motor issues getting your money/credit card out, or appear in any other way "too drunk." I've been known to pour water into booze once someone gets to a certain point. Or I'll just make you drink water. If you were at a bar - your bartender should be fired. They broke a law by over serving you.

 

2. Don't mix your liquor. Such a rookie mistake. ;)

2.5 Clear liquors aren't as hard on your stomach as dark liquors. Wine is the best. Any flavored or sugared liquor is just … disgusting. Bartenders shake their heads every time they have to pour blue curaçao. Sounds like you probably had yourself a L.A. water, another variation of the disgusting Long Island Ice Tea. 

 

3. The consensus is still out on gluten and liquor. My bff is gluten intolerant and cannot drink whiskey, gin, beer or she becomes instantly narcoleptic. She does great on wines and gluten free beers and ciders. I, myself, LOVE whiskey and gin. NOT TOGETHER, btw. But I have noticed as I progress into figuring my issues out that the whiskey causes stomach upset similar to a gluten reaction. And the gin and whiskey contribute to my cystic acne. Since I haven't drank them in the last 2 weeks, I've been feeling better. And when I drink - I have one. Two at the most. So I know I wasn't ill from over drinking. 

 

4. If you have any other questions about being a better, more refined pro at drinking - ask me. But what you listed above was very amateur. I hope you're over 21. And I am glad you didn't end up in the hospital.

 

LOL yes I am over 21, but yes I am new at it :) what I think is altogether strange was that I did not feel drunk. dont get me wrong I felt amazing but i did not feel intoxicated at all. I probably would have drove myself home if I did not know better but I do so I didnt

totally remember everything, I didnt eat until morning. I felt fine the day after its the second day (today) that it hit me. just overall depressed. maybe it is the chemicals in the brain as Laura TX mentioned. i feel fine now...or maybe it has nothing to do with it at all maybe I slipped up somewhere else. Frustrating

Starving Amy Rookie

Lol - Oh lord, don't get me started on the "Amy arguments" my poor poor boyfriend has with me after I've had too much booze. I never "feel" drunk either. I must act a fool though because often times I get the, "Go home, Amy - you're drunk." Schpiel from the sigother and then I will argue, till no end, how "sober" I actually am. That never subsides. You sound like me (except I do not drink and drive *wagging finger*.) heheh

 

Some things to help your journey into the world of booze: 

1. Orange juice is your bff for hang overs. The vitamin C will put your body's metabolism on fast forward and help you get the alcohol out of your system almost instantly. 

 

2. Depression could be a result of anything though. Chemicals, maybe some form of alcoholism runs in your family that you're unaware of, and heck - hangovers are just the pits. It could any one, or combination of things. My suggestion is try drinking with one liquor. Get to know how it treats you. Move to another once you're familiar.

 

3. Know the way a liquor effects you now will be different, for better or for worse, 5-years down the road.

 

3.5 Colored and sugar laden liquor were chemical inventions during prohibition to mask the flavor of the grain alcohol that was the only thing that could be had, then. They've NEVER been good to drink. They will accelerate any health condition you're bound to get as you age. My best example of flavored cheap bar crap are maraschino cherries - they are so red because they have been soaked in formaldehyde. Stick with luxardo liquor/cherries. Stay away from artificial colored stuff.

 

4. If you suspect gluten intolerance - eliminate all gluten and reintroduce things one by one. It is possible you may be sensitive enough to be affected from gluten liquors.

 

5. Also know, this is very very important - know that too much alcohol damages your intestines and stomach which can help trigger all kinds of intolerance's.

 

6. The best way to introduce yourself into the world of liquor is to pick a spirit, read about its history - they're really fascinating histories, learn how they were originally intended to be mixed, learn the variations of that one spirit and try them all. Give yourself a few months in this science experiment and then try a new liquor. I won't lie and say I didn't know better when I was a younger person but I had a lovely father figure set me down and talk to me before telling me I was limited to learning about red wine and scotch, for a while. I spent a year only drinking those things, developed an appreciation for the spirit and their histories…and then all my friends would call on me for advice because eventually everyone wants a more fulfilling experience from spirit knowledge, other than just getting drunk.  

You will enjoy being an adult drinker a lot more once you become a snob of spirits. ;) That's what's most fun about drinking… is being a snob. 

 

Good luck!

 

 

LOL yes I am over 21, but yes I am new at it :) what I think is altogether strange was that I did not feel drunk. dont get me wrong I felt amazing but i did not feel intoxicated at all. I probably would have drove myself home if I did not know better but I do so I didnt

totally remember everything, I didnt eat until morning. I felt fine the day after its the second day (today) that it hit me. just overall depressed. maybe it is the chemicals in the brain as Laura TX mentioned. i feel fine now...or maybe it has nothing to do with it at all maybe I slipped up somewhere else. Frustrating

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