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Specific Carbohydrate Diet?


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Has anyone heard of the SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet)? Has anyone tried it or is doing it? It seems I'm also sensitive to grains, which I've slowly weened back into my diet, after the six month mark of being gluten and wheat free. But if I have too much of either rice or corn, my body is thrown and behaves like I just digested a disgusting bleached refined bread roll.

I am a little skeptical, having done low-carbs in years past and felt utterly exhausted on that after 3 months (I believe that our bodies were made to digest carbs in healthy moderation - carbs are energy). So, before I launch myself into something to heal the gut further, I just wanted to know if anyone has experience with SCD, successes or failures?


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I have done it.  Too bad, I found I didn't tolerate nuts and nearly all known vegetables.   If I find nuts or seeds I will tolerate, I would be back on.  I felt really good on this diet.  It kept me full and I wasn't tired.  One can eat some fruit for carbsl.  I still stick to their instructions how to soak beans and their advice about hard to digest vegetables.  I have the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" that I learned about this diet from.  I began the SCD diet since I did not tolerate grains either.

 

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I have done it.  Too bad, I found I didn't tolerate nuts and nearly all known vegetables.   If I find nuts or seeds I will tolerate, I would be back on.  I felt really good on this diet.  It kept me full and I wasn't tired.  One can eat some fruit for carbsl.  I still stick to their instructions how to soak beans and their advice about hard to digest vegetables.  I have the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" that I learned about this diet from.  I began the SCD diet since I did not tolerate grains either.

 

Dee

 

Great to hear it! Thanks, Dee. :) That's the book I'm looking into now, and, like every diet, I was a little skeptical, so it's nice to have first hand testimonies. Thanks!

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Great to hear it! Thanks, Dee. :) That's the book I'm looking into now, and, like every diet, I was a little skeptical, so it's nice to have first hand testimonies. Thanks!

Hi, I just stumbled upon this post, and I am actually considering doing it as well, might be starting the soup today. Curious how you are doing so far on it?

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Has anyone heard of the SCD (Specific Carbohydrate Diet)? Has anyone tried it or is doing it? It seems I'm also sensitive to grains, which I've slowly weened back into my diet, after the six month mark of being gluten and wheat free. But if I have too much of either rice or corn, my body is thrown and behaves like I just digested a disgusting bleached refined bread roll.

I am a little skeptical, having done low-carbs in years past and felt utterly exhausted on that after 3 months (I believe that our bodies were made to digest carbs in healthy moderation - carbs are energy). So, before I launch myself into something to heal the gut further, I just wanted to know if anyone has experience with SCD, successes or failures?

HI I followed the SCD diet years ago and it helped me so much I didn't know i was celiac back then I just knew I had bad digestion issues. I followed it about 95% adherance for 2 years as I didn't make my own condiments and ate out carefully which is not recommended, but I had great results. It is not a low card diet, you are allowed unlimited honey and things like dates and raisins, you add fruit in as you heal you can also have beans as you heal. I am gearing up to starting it again now that I found out I am celiac. There is also the GAPS diet which is SCD on steroids. I still make the SCD yogurt and every time I try adding in different probiotics I get into trouble SCD worked for me I just hate to give up my popcorn : (

Diane

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HI I followed the SCD diet years ago and it helped me so much I didn't know i was celiac back then I just knew I had bad digestion issues. I followed it about 95% adherance for 2 years as I didn't make my own condiments and ate out carefully which is not recommended, but I had great results. It is not a low card diet, you are allowed unlimited honey and things like dates and raisins, you add fruit in as you heal you can also have beans as you heal. I am gearing up to starting it again now that I found out I am celiac. There is also the GAPS diet which is SCD on steroids. I still make the SCD yogurt and every time I try adding in different probiotics I get into trouble SCD worked for me I just hate to give up my popcorn : (

Diane

If you are interested in exploring the carb issue...I would really encourage you to look into the work of Chris Kessler, Mark Sisson and other advocates of the Paleo diet and lifestyle. I went paleo to manage my Celiacs and IBS. I've looked into doing SCD and GAPS and now FODMAPS...might want to look into that instead...my may not need to go full SCD as it could be a FODMAP issue. I geek out on nutrition stuff. Dave Osprey has the bulletproof executive podcast that interviews all the latest researchers on nutrition and fitness. Hope you find some useful information. I can provide you with plenty of books and websites to learn more about SCD and/or FODMAP. good luck.

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