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Kailynsmom Apprentice

I have a 1 year old who weaned from breastfeeding at 10 months to milk based formula only to get diahhrea. her dr switched her to soy based formula and she did great. Now at a year he told me to try cow's milk again and then soy. Both the cow's milk and the Silk soy milk gave her horrid diahhrea.

HElp! her dr told me to keep her on formula till she's 2!

anybody have a similar problem or any ideas? I;m going broke!


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Jnkmnky Collaborator
I have a 1 year old who weaned from breastfeeding at 10 months to milk based formula only to get diahhrea. her dr switched her to soy based formula and she did great. Now at a year he told me to try cow's milk again and then soy. Both the cow's milk and the Silk soy milk gave her horrid diahhrea.

HElp! her dr told me to keep her on formula till she's 2!

anybody have a similar problem or any ideas? I;m going broke!

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I would urge you to look into the plant estrogens in soy. They have a huge impact on babies. It's the equivilant to 5 birth control pills a day. Here are some links.

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I don't have some of the more mainstream articles I used to have, including one from the New York Daily News that was very clear in describing the dangers of soy on the human body. Also, my children stopped bottles and formula and nursing all by the age of 1. You don't have to follow your doctor's "advice" in this area. Clearly, doctors don't know everything.

Kailynsmom Apprentice

it's not that I think my dr is wrong, she's doing fine. But what do I do if I take her off the soy formula....?? She get's diahhrea from everything else!

A friend of mine suggested rice milk...can babies have that?

Smunkeemom Enthusiast
it's not that I think my dr is wrong, she's doing fine. But what do I do if I take her off the soy formula....?? She get's diahhrea from everything else!

A friend of mine suggested rice milk...can babies have that?

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at a year babies can have just about anything you want to feed them (as long as they aren't allergic)

you might try goats milk, it is good for an alternative to soy but it does have lactose.

Jnkmnky Collaborator
it's not that I think my dr is wrong, she's doing fine. But what do I do if I take her off the soy formula....?? She get's diahhrea from everything else!

A friend of mine suggested rice milk...can babies have that?

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Kids don't need milk. It's promoted as a life-sustaining beverage, but it's not true. Your child will get protein from other sources. Calicum from other sources. You DO NOT need milk from a cow, a goat, a pig, a chicken (do chickens make milk?)... NO MILK. It's true! I use the WholeFoods 365 Organic brand of rice milk for cooking. My kids prefer cereal plain. They'll have a cup of the vanilla flavored rice milk once in awhile. Most of the time, they quench their thirst with plain ole water. OJ once in a while. No other juices, no other beverages. Hot tea when sick-- just to be cozy and special. Eat a big salad everyday. How do you think Dinosaurs got such big strong bones to support their mighty frames???? The local dairy farmer? :lol: No. Green leafy vegetables have all the calcium you need. Actually, calcium is in everything. The problem with dairy is that all that protein blocks the absorption of the calcium. :o How ironic. That's why our country is the largest consumer of dairy products INTHEWORLD... and yet we have the highest number of bone fractures INTHEWORLD and the highest amount of osteoporosis INTHEWORLD. Crazy.

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I agree about the milk! My own opinion is that cow's milk was created to turn a calf into a cow and thats about it. Think about this: cows don't drink milk after weaning, they eat plants and make all the milk they want! My sons are grown now, but even when they were little, I never pushed milk on them and they are both strong, healthy guys (thank God). Again, only my opinion.

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I agree about the milk!  My own opinion is that cow's milk was created to turn a calf into a cow and thats about it.  Think about this: cows don't drink milk after weaning, they eat plants and make all the milk they want!  My sons are grown now, but even when they were little, I never pushed milk on them and they are both strong, healthy guys (thank God). Again, only my opinion.

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I'm glad someone agrees with my position, but I want to point out that this is more than "only my opinion"... It's a fact. We're just all so brain-washed to believe we need this product that going against it seems insane! But you are right about milk. It's NOT just your opinion. You know what you're talking about. :P


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I'm also in the "no milk needed" after weaning camp. Once my son self-weaned from breastfeeding at 14mths I didn't offer milk. He drinks loads of water. I did give him natural unsweetened yoghurt though along with his normal diet.

VydorScope Proficient

Well, I am knid of in the "No milk NEEDED" camp, but I am not *sips a latte* in the milk is evil camp. :)

My peditrction said to use Whole Milk for a little while after weening for the FAT content, to help the baby's body make the insulation it needs to cover the STILL devopling nevrous system for a while. I forget what age teh nerves finally have all thier insulation. Of course you can get the fat else where, but milk is odvioulsy easy when your dealing with super picky toddlers who happen to like milk. :) Same with Calcuim. You can get all the nutrition form milk else where, but nothing beats convience when your chasing toddlers around! :D

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Well, I am knid of in the "No milk NEEDED" camp, but I am not *sips a latte* in the milk is evil camp. :)

My peditrction said to use Whole Milk for a little while after weening for the FAT content, to help the baby's body make the insulation it needs to cover the STILL devopling nevrous system for a while. I forget what age teh nerves finally have all thier insulation.  Of course you can get the fat else where, but milk is odvioulsy easy when your dealing with super picky toddlers who happen to like milk. :) Same with Calcuim. You can get all the nutrition form milk else where, but nothing beats convience when your chasing toddlers around! :D

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Right there with you...*sip*... I do think milk's bad for the body. The marketers are evil. I don't keep dairy products in my house. It would be too tempting to have it around. My kids DO NOT have dairy as a general rule.

VydorScope Proficient
Right there with you...*sip*...  I do think milk's bad for the body. The marketers are evil. I don't keep dairy products in my house. It would be too tempting to have it around.  My kids DO NOT have dairy as a general rule.

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Realy? Hmm I dunno that I could live with out CHEESE! :D Besides they have some of the most entertaining commerails! :D

Kailynsmom Apprentice

I never considered NOT giving her milk...hmm, have to ponder that one.

My biggest concern is her weight. She was oborn at about 75% for her age weight wise, but has continued to drop since birth. Though she is long for her age, she's only like 15% for weight. The added fat is a big thing right now. Just trying to maintain, much less gain weight.

VydorScope Proficient
I never considered NOT giving her milk...hmm, have to ponder that one.

My biggest concern is her weight. She was oborn at about 75% for her age weight wise, but has continued to drop since birth. Though she is long for her age, she's only like 15% for weight. The added fat is a big thing right now. Just trying to maintain, much less gain weight.

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Wiatloss is what got us worried wth our son... He went form 95-105% to like 80%, and falling. That prompted us on the trail that lead us here and to a health toddler!

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Jnkmnky Collaborator
Realy? Hmm I dunno that I could live with out CHEESE! Besides they have some of the most entertaining commerails!

I agree!  I can do w/out the milk, but cheese too?  It's the one thing that makes almost any meal edible!

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Well...gross fact for ya- it takes like 5 lbs of dairy to make 1 lb of cheese....or something like that. It's like quadrupling your dairy/casein intake. But yes, cheese is nice. I agree. If you read enough of the info about what dairy really does to you (again, minus any PETA hysteria), you really won't be ABLE to eat even the most delicious cheese. My kids walk away backwards with their hands up infront of them warding off the dairy demons, ever since I read to them some of the hard core facts of dairy. No complaints from the Young'uns. Old people are more difficult to convince.

Jnkmnky Collaborator
Right there with you...*sip*...  I do think milk's bad for the body. The marketers are evil.  I don't keep dairy products in my house. It would be too tempting to have it around.  My kids DO NOT have dairy as a general rule.

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And to be "god is watching me honest", I do keep one half pint of half and half in the house atalltimes...for my 1/2 cup of coffee every morning. YES! I confess. I tried the rice milks in my java, the hazelnut, the almond, extra sugar, honey...nothing but about 2tblsps works for me. I am too old to negotiate this one thing. I will not give up my 2tblsps of half and half in my morning cup of Joe. :P

SurreyGirl Rookie
I agree about the milk!  My own opinion is that cow's milk was created to turn a calf into a cow and thats about it.  Think about this: cows don't drink milk after weaning, they eat plants and make all the milk they want!  My sons are grown now, but even when they were little, I never pushed milk on them and they are both strong, healthy guys (thank God). Again, only my opinion.

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I am incredibly impressed by your no-milk knowledge and how switched on you all are... it feels like I am on the right planet at last! But why is the contradictory advice still so abundant not just in commercials but even in doctors' surgeries??

If anyone would like to expand their knowledge why dairy are not what they appear to be, then I can recommend "Your life in your hands" book by Jane Plant. Here is the gist: the hormones in dairy (esp lowest-fat varieties) contribute to hormone-sensitive cancers in modern world (breast, prostate, possibly others). Those hormones are intended (or were intended) for a growing calf (think of size and speed of growth..).

The book is quite mind-blowing (Jane reversed her breast cancer that spread to lymph nodes by going on dairy-free diet). The only thing I wouldn't be comfortable with is use of soya (which she suggests as a substitute), because of lectins (so at home we use mainly rice milk). My mum (who was diagnosed with breast cancer last year) is now on dairy-free and gluten-free diet and it appears to be helping. At home we are gluten free and almost dairy free.

And of course, after reading Dangerous Grains, all this made even more sense.

JoyfulDancer Newbie

Well...gross fact for ya- it takes like 5 lbs of dairy to make 1 lb of cheese....or something like that. It's like quadrupling your dairy/casein intake.

Wow, I never knew that. Maybe that explains why my 3yods seemed to finally be doing okay on all dairy products until I started letting him eat cheese. Then BAM, bad rash all over his legs. I KNEW it had to be the cheese!

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oh DON'T tell me I have to give up my CHEESE!!!!! :D

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