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Made my first full gluten free meal today: crock pot stroganoff with Ms Haggman's cream soup base over rice noodles from this site, with chocolate pudding from this site for desert. Beverage of the evening was milk from our own goats. The two older girls turned up their noses at the noodles, but the baby (the one with the suspected gluten intolerance) loved everything! I count this as mostly a success. Homemade noodles will probably get better with practice. Try, try again!


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Lisa Mentor

Good for you...At least you made some progress.

Never tried goat milk though. Do you milk the goats :blink:

What is the difference between cow milk and goat milk? B)

Lisa B.

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Tinkyada pastas are great.

MySuicidalTurtle Enthusiast

That's wonderful!

Goats milk is easier for humans to digest.

aikiducky Apprentice
What is the difference between cow milk and goat milk? B)

Lisa B.

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Cow milk comes from cows and goat milk comes from goats.... :blink::D

Sorry, couldn't resist! :lol:

Pauliina

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That is funny Paulniia :lol: Sorry Lisa ... don't mean to be rude, but you are showing your city roots :rolleyes:

But to get serious here .. many people who can't tollerate cow's milk, have no problem with goat's milk or goat's cheese

Katerinvon ... That really is great! I love stroganoff! Good for you :D

tarnalberry Community Regular

the proportions of the casein molecule subtypes are vastly different in goats milk and cows milk. if you have a minor casein intolerance to cows milk, you may do just fine with goats milk, since the primary subtypes of casein are reversed in the two.


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katerinvon Rookie
Good for you...At least you made some progress.

Never tried goat milk though.  Do you milk the goats :blink:

What is the difference between cow milk and goat milk? B)

Lisa B.

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I milk the goats myself most of the time. Sometimes my husband or older kids help. And our infrequent guests usually like to give it a try.

I started with goats just as a hobby. I wanted my little ranch to produce something, and milk and eggs were easier than a garden here in the AZ deasert.

I have found myself turning into a supplier of fresh milk for the lactose intolerant folks in our area. I almost can't keep up with the demand sometimes, especially this time of year when the goats slow down before kidding in the Spring. (First babies due in January!) Fresh milk usually tastes better than the stuff from the store. People at work taste it and can't tell the difference from cow's milk. And if you want to produce your own milk, goats are friendly, easy to handle, produce just enough for a family, and are easier to clean up after and less intimidating than a huge cow.

I'm jumping off my soapbox now. I love my goats and could go on all day.

Back on topic. Brigid, my toddler, had no reactions so far to last night's supper. Yippee!

Karen

Lisa Mentor

Hey wait a minute......We had a farm and had horses. I never milked them though. :blink:

See.......I bet that I'm not the only one who leared alot about goat milk....Pthhhhh ;);)

katerinvon Rookie
Hey wait a minute......We had a farm and had horses.  I never milked them though. :blink:

See.......I bet that I'm not the only one who leared alot about goat milk....Pthhhhh ;)  ;)

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Read the biography of Mustang Annie, the one who started the legislation to protect the wild horses. Her father was saved from starvation in the deasert because his parents fed him mare's milk.

Karen

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I'm just milking my rice grains and sticking with that. :ph34r:

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