Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

DH, Dapsone, anemia and dermatologist?


FranDaMan

Recommended Posts

FranDaMan Apprentice

Infrequent poster as I'm "normally" under control. I was diagnosed with DH/Celiac in early 2009. My primary physician put me on Dapsone and it was amazing at how rapidly symptoms were abated. Jump on the gluten-free diet and move on. After about a year I'd had enough of reading side effects of Dapsone so began weaning off. One pill every other day, 1/2 every other day, etc...until I'd gotten off and no more flare ups. In September of 2012 I traveled to Europe (Oktoberfest and ALL that brings). As expected my rash reemerged a month later. Back on the meds (already back on the diet). We're now well over 3 years and I'm still struggling with the rash. My primary was concerned with some blood work (every 6 months) last month and I got off Dapsone completely. About 7 weeks now. Follow up blood work a month later and much improved. The DH flared right up of course and I'd hoped it would be a parting gift but it is still going strong. I'd forgotten how horrible it is!

Anyway, my primary now has me heading to a dermatologist at this late stage in the game. I'll keep the appointment as I should, but I'm curious if there is really anything to be done beside the diet and waiting it out? I've heard of a Dapsone cream but have no idea of it's efficacy or effect on blood and liver. 

Looking for information prior to the visit on the off chance I'm getting someone who will want shots and steroids and all of that stuff and dismiss the rash for what it actually is.

Thanks


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



squirmingitch Veteran

If you're gluten free then a biopsy of the rash will not come back positive unless you're getting some serious cross contamination. Take it from me & a few hundred others who have posted here that steroids are not the way to go. Oh they work as long as you're on them but the minute you quit, POW! you get a rash backlash that you do not even want to experience! I too have heard of the topical Dapsone called Aczone gel:

Open Original Shared Link

You can read the warnings there. I have never used it.

There is also Gabapentin but it won't stop the rash, just make the itch less as I understand it. I've never used it myself but have read what people who did have said about it on this forum.

Open Original Shared Link

Otherwise there are some "other" antibiotics but they don't work as well as Dapsone and I might add that you risk the longer you stay on an antibiotic.

Be pristine in your diet. You couldn't PAY me to eat out!!!!!!! Russian roulette anyone?

You probably ought to have celiac serum panel done to make sure you are diet compliant & that should tell you if you're getting cc'd somewhere.

FranDaMan Apprentice

Thanks. I couldn't remember the name of the cream. Seems it is acne oriented and I haven't had that in 40 years. Although I will discuss it with the dermatologist. 

I eat mostly at home but there is one weakness and that is a fish fry. I know the ingredients are all gluten-free but I need to talk to the owner to see about the oil. That could be the culprit.

squirmingitch Veteran

You're welcome! Yes, the oil could very well get you if it's not pure. Plus any cutting boards that are used there.

  • 2 weeks later...
Sybyl Newbie
On April 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, squirmingitch said:

If you're gluten free then a biopsy of the rash will not come back positive unless you're getting some serious cross contamination. Take it from me & a few hundred others who have posted here that steroids are not the way to go. Oh they work as long as you're on them but the minute you quit, POW! you get a rash backlash that you do not even want to experience! I too have heard of the topical Dapsone called Aczone gel:

Open Original Shared Link

You can read the warnings there. I have never used it.

There is also Gabapentin but it won't stop the rash, just make the itch less as I understand it. I've never used it myself but have read what people who did have said about it on this forum.

Open Original Shared Link

Otherwise there are some "other" antibiotics but they don't work as well as Dapsone and I might add that you risk the longer you stay on an antibiotic.

Be pristine in your diet. You couldn't PAY me to eat out!!!!!!! Russian roulette anyone?

You probably ought to have celiac serum panel done to make sure you are diet compliant & that should tell you if you're getting cc'd somewhere.

Triple  Amen about the eating out.  I imagine that most of us true Celiacs tolerate zero parts per million of gluten, never mind 20 ppm.  The only time I got DH or other Celiac symptoms was the infrequent venture to a chain restaurant who cannot control their output as much as they claim.  I think in general, although their intentions are good, people don't understand about cross contamination (and the waitress said, "I'll just remove the croutons." ).....the multi sourced spoon, spatula, pots, pans, toaster, and might as well mention the dreaded sponge.   Been an 11 year diagnosis for me, with Type 1 Diabetes for 51 years.  Intentionally eating, living well, and very grateful for today's medical community!!!  Good luck with your journey!

  • 4 weeks later...
elefky Apprentice

After 21 years, I still take Dapsone daily.  My dermatologist requires blood test annually.

Besides being gluten-free, try avoiding iodine.  It doesn't cause a flare-up but it can aggravate one.  Don't use iodized salt and avoid shellfish.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,413
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    ANNA MURPHY
    Newest Member
    ANNA MURPHY
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.2k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Hello @Beck1430 and welcome to the Forum. I am sorry your little boy is going through this. Your question is an interesting one.  I would say the majority of posts I have read since joining this forum speak of a fairly quick reaction, and that has been my experience.  The only major gluten hit I've had in more recent times resulted in chills, dizziness and vomiting about 2-3 hours after eating gluten.  It was truly horrible.  The fact that I vomited was new for me - I didn't get diarrhea which had been my classic reaction in the past.  It was as if in going totally gluten free my body has decided to react more violently to gluten, and quite differently.  Reactions can change over time - the fact that your son is reacting differently doesn't necessarily mean that gluten isn't the culprit. Anyway,  this study is interesting in that it states that it is possible to react 12 hours later. https://www.schaer.com/en-us/a/how-long-after-eating-gluten-do-symptoms-start#:~:text=A survey published in Alimentary,by 12 hours or more. I am afraid the only way you will probably know for sure is to repeat the challenge again, but I can completely understand your reluctance to do that.  I wonder if I can ask a couple of questions: Regarding the rash - has that also subsided since giving up gluten?   There are quite a lot of photos of dermatitis herpetiformis to see online, I wonder if you think what your son had/has was similar? Also, do you have coeliac disease in the family?  It is inherited and if you have others in the family, that could point more strongly to your son having coeliac disease. Cristiana
    • Beck1430
      Hi there, I'm looking for some advice for my 2 year old. After he turned one he started eating more foods like pasta and breadsticks and our supermarket finally started to stock a soy free bread (he has an intolerance to dairy and soy) so he started eating bread for the first time.  He began having foul, loose nappies, which I assumed must be teething, but this went on and on for a couple of months. Coupled with that, he started having patches of red scaly skin, a little bit like eczema but more widespread. He was also very tired and quite miserable. Given that it all coincided with him starting to eat a lot more gluten, his dietician recommended I eliminate gluten to see what happened. His poos immediately changed back to normal and were finally formed, and he’s been off gluten since last summer.   Fast forward 6 months and we did a wheat challenge yesterday, giving him a small breadstick at about 11am. He seemed ok through the day but 11pm he woke up vomiting, and was sick 3 more times over the course of 90 minutes and was writhing in pain on the floor crying about “poo” which never came, and today he has done a normal poo.  My two questions are: Is it possible that this was a reaction to the gluten if it came 12 hours after ingestion? Or is that too long to cause vomiting? I wonder if it’s more likely an unrelated bug but can’t work out where from as we’ve had a quiet week. Would there not be loose stools too if it was a reaction to gluten? Before going gluten-free, this was his main symptom!   If it could be the gluten that caused this, where do we stand with ever testing for coeliac? Now that I know more about the testing I don’t know why his dietician didn’t recommend we do that before removing it from his diet before. Seems cruel to make him ill for the sake of a test. Grateful for any pointers or advice. Thank you!   
    • ChrisSeth
      Okay thanks Scott. So based on my results will they order more tests to be done? Kind of confused.
    • Scott Adams
      Yes, this sounds right. Let us know when you find out your results.
    • ChrisSeth
      Hi thanks for your response! This is the only other info that’s on my test results for the IgA. The initial testing performed in the Celiac Disease Reflex Panel is the total IgA. If the total IgA is <10 mg/dL, the reflex tests that will be ordered are the Tissue Transglutaminase IgG Antibody and the Deamidated Gliadin Peptide IgG Antibody. If the total IgA is >=10 mg/dL, the reflex test that will be ordered is the Tissue Transglutaminase IgA Antibody. Does that give some insight?  following up with my Dr early next week… thanks again.  And I didn’t eat more gluten than usual during the last 6-8 weeks on purpose. Just a normal diet prior to testing. I had gluten everyday for 6-8 weeks though I’m sure.
×
×
  • Create New...