Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

What Exactly Measures an IGA Deficiency?


bmarsh28

Recommended Posts

bmarsh28 Rookie

Hi all, quick question. What levels of total IGA deem an "IGA Deficiency?" I've had a hard time finding research on what it is (is it lower than the range used? is it just low on the scale within the range used?) This is assuming that the total IGA is tested in the comprehensive celiac panel. For example, I am a 99 on a range of 87-352. In my opinion that would be low, but is it only considered low or deficient if it's below the range? Thanks!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master
14 minutes ago, bmarsh28 said:

Hi all, quick question. What levels of total IGA deem an "IGA Deficiency?" I've had a hard time finding research on what it is (is it lower than the range used? is it just low on the scale within the range used?) This is assuming that the total IGA is tested in the comprehensive celiac panel. For example, I am a 99 on a range of 87-352. In my opinion that would be low, but is it only considered low or deficient if it's below the range? Thanks!

for testing for Celiac, that is not a low number at all. My understanding is that the test & ranges were developed for another reason but found to have a use with Celiac testing.  

Open Original Shared Link

bmarsh28 Rookie
22 minutes ago, kareng said:

for testing for Celiac, that is not a low number at all. My understanding is that the test & ranges were developed for another reason but found to have a use with Celiac testing.  

Open Original Shared Link

Thanks for the response! I suppose I am a bit confused by the answer. I have been confirmed as having early celiac, or at least some form of latent celiac (high TTG IGG, and biopsy Marsh I, with genetic indicators) and I was looking to find a reason why my IGG was so high, but not my IGA, and my primary care physician was claiming an IGA deficiency because of some of the marked symptoms I had experienced in the past related to IGA deficiency but then my GI doc was saying I wasn't IGA deficient, so I was just curious who was right and what the numbers really mean.

cyclinglady Grand Master

From my research IgA deficiency is defined at a number close to zero.  Your result is fine for celiac disease testing which is mostly used as a control test for the IgA tests (DGP, TTG).  Who knows why you tested the way you did?   If you find out, please share.   I test positive to only the DGP IgA (even in follow-up testing) and I had a Marsh Stage IIIB and my IgA is the opposite — extremely high.    

  • 2 months later...
pupppy Apprentice

I'm confused as well-isn't your IGA on the low end of the range?

kareng Grand Master
1 hour ago, pupppy said:

I'm confused as well-isn't your IGA on the low end of the range?

They wouldn’t be deficient if they are still in the normal range.  But this test and it’s range was not developed for Celiac disease.  So the ranges aren’t relevant to Celiac.  That’s why the deficient for Celiac testing is different then the range printed on the test result. 

pupppy Apprentice
5 minutes ago, kareng said:

They wouldn’t be deficient if they are still in the normal range.  But this test and it’s range was not developed for Celiac disease.  So the ranges aren’t relevant to Celiac.  That’s why the deficient for Celiac testing is different then the range printed on the test result. 

Yes, I understand it has nothing to do with celiac-it measures how much iga your body makes to validate the test. I agree he is not iga deficient because it is in the normal range. What I am saying is, since it is in the low end of normal, it could throw off the results somewhat and give a negative ttg iga.

I meant this as an explanation to why his ttg igg was positive, and his biopsy was positive


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master
2 minutes ago, pupppy said:

Yes, I understand it has nothing to do with celiac-it measures how much iga your body makes to validate the test. I agree he is not iga deficient because it is in the normal range. What I am saying is, since it is in the low end of normal, it could throw off the results somewhat and give a negative ttg iga.

I meant this as an explanation to why his ttg igg was positive, and his biopsy was positive

But , if you read the link, the numbers need to be much lower to effect Celiac testing. 

pupppy Apprentice
5 minutes ago, kareng said:

But , if you read the link, the numbers need to be much lower to effect Celiac testing. 

Well that link is wrong, every testing algorithm I've read stated that if your iga is below the range they order igg tests, and if any result is positive or equivocal proceed to biopsy. There is selective iga deficiency which is <1 mg/dl, and partial iga deficiency which is above that but below age matched ranges. I don't know where they got 20 mg/dl from-it is an extremely random cutoff and they don't cite any sources. So I don't trust that. 

I have seen samples that are slightly below the range for total iga, and test negative for ttg iga.

Open Original Shared Link

kareng Grand Master

I am probably still going to go with the Celiac experts who interpret these blood tests over the laboratory.  

pupppy Apprentice
1 hour ago, kareng said:

I am probably still going to go with the Celiac experts who interpret these blood tests over the laboratory.  

It's not just quest, it's also mayoclinic, the American College of Gastroenterology, ARUP labs, and most algorithms out there. Partial iga deficiency still counts as iga deficiency. As long as it's below the range, the standard is to order igg tests

Open Original Shared Link

Open Original Shared Link

 

edit: I am not trying to say your source isn't experts. They could be right, but even so if the iga is low then igg tests should still be ordered just in case. Better to catch everybody than gamble on the results (potentially false negative)

cyclinglady Grand Master

I would like to add that if my GI had followed the American GI Association guidelines or many other algorithms (like you linked and I also share those links), my diagnosis would not have been caught.  I am not IgA deficient, yet I have NEVER (I am tested annually) had a positive on the TTG or EMA.  I only test positive to the DGP IgA.  I am biopsy confirmed with symptoms resolution (e.g. anemia) and my last endoscopy/biopsies revealed healthy, healed villi.  

The original OP had a normal Immunoglobulin A (IgA) result (within range). It was enough to validate the IgA tests she was given and used to help diagnose celiac disease.  Does everyone get all available celiac testing? Some celiacs are seronegative.  Some test oddly on the blood tests (like me).  Some are IgA deficient.  In those cases, going directly to biopsy can help determine a diagnose.  Unfortunately, many people do not have the financial resources, have insurance constraints (like some insurance only allows the TTG for screening) or a celiac-savvy doctor. 

Not everything follows a standard.  We are all unique.  This adds to the complexity of receiving a celiac disease diagnosis.  I wish it was more clear cut!  

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      126,097
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    John.B
    Newest Member
    John.B
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.9k
    • Total Posts
      69.2k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Not sure if related to coeliac disease but my ear ringing  has stepped up a notch since diagnosis.  Even since a child silence really hurts my ears - there is always a really loud noise if there is no other noise in a quiet room - but my brain has learned to filter it out.  Since diagnosis in my forties I also get a metallic ringing in my ears, sometimes just one, sometimes both.  But it comes and goes.   My sister also suffers now, we are both in our fifties, but she is not a coeliac, so for all I know it could just be an age thing.  I do get occasional stabbing pain in my ears but that has been all my life, and I do appear to be vulnerable to outer ear infections too.  So not a particularly helpful reply here, but I suppose what I am trying to say is it might be related but then again it could just be one of those things.   I think in the UK where I live doctors like you to report if you get tinnitus in just the one ear.  I reported mine but no cause was found.  Most of the time it is nothing but sometimes it can have a cause that can be treated, so perhaps worth reporting to your GP.  
    • Scott Adams
      Welcome to the forum, and thank you for sharing your story! It sounds like you’ve been through an incredible journey with your health, and it’s no wonder you’re starting to piece things together and wonder about celiac disease. Your experiences—from childhood through adulthood—paint a picture of symptoms that are often associated with celiac disease, though they can overlap with other conditions as well. The recurring sinus infections, being underweight as a child, chronic gastrointestinal issues, nutrient-related symptoms like cramps, and the persistent fatigue and brain fog are all things that many people with undiagnosed celiac report. Your reactions to gluten also stand out. The improvement in symptoms when you reduce or remove gluten, followed by the resurgence of pain and other problems when you reintroduce it, is a common experience for those with celiac or gluten intolerance. While your frustrations and trials with elimination diets might not have given you concrete answers yet, they’ve provided valuable clues. It’s also worth noting that celiac disease doesn’t always present in the classic way. Many people, like yourself, may not experience severe gastrointestinal distress but instead have “atypical” or extraintestinal symptoms like joint pain, menstrual irregularities, fatigue, and more. It’s a condition that can go undiagnosed for years, especially when symptoms are subtle, sporadic, or mistakenly attributed to other issues. The fact that you’ve sought alternative approaches to feel better shows just how determined you’ve been to find relief, even without a definitive diagnosis. Given your history and how your body responds to gluten, it would be worth exploring celiac disease further with a medical professional. Before removing gluten completely, it’s important to get tested while you’re still eating it, as going gluten-free beforehand can affect the accuracy of the results. A blood test for celiac antibodies (like tTG-IgA) is usually the first step, and if positive, an endoscopy may follow to confirm the diagnosis. If the testing process feels daunting, keep in mind that getting answers could give you clarity and help guide your health decisions going forward. Whatever the outcome, you’ve already made significant strides in identifying triggers and managing your symptoms. Your awareness and persistence are key, and this community is here to support you as you continue to seek answers. This article might be helpful. It breaks down each type of blood test, and what a positive results means in terms of the probability that you might have celiac disease. One test that always needs to be done is the IgA Levels/Deficiency Test (often called "Total IGA") because some people are naturally IGA deficient, and if this is the case, then certain blood tests for celiac disease might be false-negative, and other types of tests need to be done to make an accurate diagnosis. The article includes the "Mayo Clinic Protocol," which is the best overall protocol for results to be ~98% accurate.    
    • More2Learn
      Hi, I am new!  (Although I've used this forum as a reference over the past couple of years.) I'm just looking for some initial reactions to if I actually might possibly have Celiac Disease, or if I'm reaching here.  I have had lifelong health issues and not once has a doctor suggested I look into celiac. I always thought it was basically an extreme allergy that needed an EpiPen, and I know that's not me.  However, I stumbled upon some symptoms, realized I was wrong, and after some research I'm almost shocked at what I have found.  It seems like anything I've ever struggled with has a potential correlation to this disease!  I'm in my 40's, now.  Here is my journey to date... Issues as a Kid: tons of allergies, and had sinus infections all the time... however I didn't have hayfever-like allergies and the scratch tests didn't register much, it was more that when I was exposed to allergens (like say I spent hours with a cat) I was certain to get a sinus infection and it lasted months. was extremely skinny and everyone always said I was anorexic (I wasn't) always getting sick and the illnesses hang on for a long time always cold (my favorite thing to do is sit in front of a space heater or be out in 90 degree weather) intermittent bad constipation (still happens but not as severe) horrible toe cramps that would wake me up in the middle of the night As I got older (teenage/college years): acid reflux diagnosis learned that beer made me EXTREMELY sick, cannot tolerate it horrible issues with menstrual cycle - I wasn't regular, had awful cramps and PMS, sometimes cannot function the first couple of days night terrors/sleep walking more stomach issues - I learned I couldn't have black coffee.  I often had issues especially when traveling.  For example I finally noticed a pattern that I could never, ever eat at a hotel buffet spread - it would always make me sick afterwards. More recent problems: always tired periodic pain on right side that can be so painful I can't stand up straight. Have had all kinds of scans and doctors always say I'm fine.  I was so sure I had gallstones or my liver was failing but... nope. chest pain brain fog not diagnosed but many, many ADHD symptoms lots of inflammation, am overweight now toe cramps evolved into leg/calf cramps None of my symptoms from any era of my life ever really resolved, except I went from being skinny to ~20/30 pounds overweight, and as I got older I got less outright sinus infections.  Largely due to the pain in my right side and the fact that I always, always seem to pick up every illness, especially when traveling, I started pursuing alternative medicine paths... I did the Pritikin lifestyle, I tried an elimination diet, I followed the Root Cause Protocol, I did a Leptin reset.  A lot of these paths recommend removing gluten, and in the past year or so some of my symptoms have gone away!  Specifically less issues with toe cramps, sometimes the side pain would go away for a long time, and my acid reflux got much better.  But, because I was never diagnosed with any specific intolerance, I wasn't militant about the gluten - I had cut out dairy, soy, all kinds of things.  So I would say cross-contamination is ok, or make an exception at a group outing. Then one day, I just got frustrated and ate some normal slices of pizza... and my side pain came back!  I started doing research and now I'm here and wondering... could I have actually had this my whole life??!? Thoughts and observations welcome.           
    • Wheatwacked
      "grass-fed" meat by definition cannot contain wheat as it means the animal is only fed grass  organic meat can be fed wheat feed
    • Scott Adams
      Your symptoms would not be typical celiac disease symptoms, but still could be related due to possible nutrient deficiencies.  The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium.  Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend that those just diagnosed with celiac disease take a broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplement, which would greatly benefit most, if not all, newly diagnosed celiacs.      
×
×
  • Create New...