Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Help interpreting son's blood work


Booiegirl

Recommended Posts

Booiegirl Rookie

Hoping somebody can help me - I am confused.  I have celiac disease, as does my sister and nephew.  OUr house has been gluten free for 7 years so my children eat very little gluten (only outside the home at friends etc).  However, since Xmas my 13 year old son has been eating lunch at school more regularly so would have had been eating more gluten than he had previously (although still not every day etc.).  He also had a really hard winter with infections, sick, headaches, no energy, losing interest in his sports etc.  I thought maybe it was his age but then in the spring he told me he had been having some diarhea and bloating.  And all of a sudden his increased ingestion of gluten dawned on my so I started to wonder if he had celiac disease.  So from mid June until he had bloodwork the start of August I tried to ensure that he was eating gluten consistently and daily.  He definately would have bloating (my other kids said he looked pregnant!) and was tired, but it was inconsistent.  His blood work results are as follows:

EOS % high 4.9% (normal below 4%)

TTG high 19.5 (normal below 14) 

IgG normal 12.07 (normal 6.5-15.2)

IgA normal 1.76 (normal 0.95 - 3.59)

IgM normal 0.89 (normal 0.46-3.04)

Originally our family doctor called with TTG results, said positive for celiac and given family history amd his symptoms we both felt comfortable forgoing scope (due to lenght of time it would take to get - just don't want him to have to keep eating gluten if it is making him feel crappy).  However, when she called GI doctor he was reluctant to not do scope and prescribe lifelong gluten free diet for my son based on "weak positive" ttg.  Our doctor said she did explain family history and that our house had been gluten free but he wanted the IgG, IgA and IgM results (to see if weak positive was result of those - but those came back normal).  I suspect lower TTG levels are simply due to length of time that he has been ingesting gluten, but clearly I could be wrong!  (also in googling high EOS - one of causes "could be celiac" - could also be other things but of course I though that was interesting) So, my questions are:

1. I always understood that a positive for TTG is positive - am I correct in thinking the lower ttg level could be result of not having ingested gluten consistently for a very long period of time?

2.  What else could cause high TTG?

3.  How would you interpret blood work results?

Just don't know if I should have him go gluten free, or keep eating it while we wait on referral etc. Just I hate to see him feeling crappy if gluten is the cause, and it would be so easy to fix.  But also don't want to assume that is the case if it isn't!  Grr.  So confused!

 

Thanks for any help you are able to provide!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tessa25 Rising Star

A high TTG should lead to a gastroenterologist doing an endoscopy to verify a celiac diagnosis. Find a better gastroenterologist.

cyclinglady Grand Master
(edited)

 A TTG positive does warrant a a biopsy, but since your family has a strong celiac disease history, I can see why your GP would rather skip this step.  I also understand the GI’s position as well.  Not because of a lifelong restriction of gluten, but it is nice to have a firm diagnosis (for school/university) and a benchmark of damage for future follow-up testing.  The TTG can be elevated due to other illnesses.  Just because you are celiac does not mean he has it.  It could be something else like Crohn’s.  You could see if your GP can run the EMA and DGP IgA versions to help your case of avoiding the endoscopy.

It sounds like that endoscopy can not be done quickly (insurance or where you live).  Maybe call daily to see if there have been cancellations?   You might also  consider having your son go gluten free and then back on gluten two to four weeks prior to the endoscopy.  Do this next summer!  If he has celiac disease he is mostly going to be miserable.  

I hope it works out.  

 

Edited by cyclinglady
frieze Community Regular
On 8/16/2018 at 12:11 PM, cyclinglady said:

 A TTG positive does warrant a a biopsy, but since your family has a strong celiac disease history, I can see why your GP would rather skip this step.  I also understand the GI’s position as well.  Not because of a lifelong restriction of gluten, but it is nice to have a firm diagnosis (for school/university) and a benchmark of damage for future follow-up testing.  The TTG can be elevated due to other illnesses.  Just because you are celiac does not mean he has it.  It could be something else like Crohn’s.  You could see if your GP can run the EMA and DGP IgA versions to help your case of avoiding the endoscopy.

It sounds like that endoscopy can not be done quickly (insurance or where you live).  Maybe call daily to see if there have been cancellations?   You might also  consider having your son go gluten free and then back on gluten two to four weeks prior to the endoscopy.  Do this next summer!  If he has celiac disease he is mostly going to be miserable.  

I hope it works out.  

 

i understand CL point, BUT,,, he is at an age were major growth should be expected, and you might not get that back if you keep him on gluten, even small amounts at school.  if he is a reasonably mature 13 year old i would have a sit down with him and explain the situation, perhaps he would elect to wait till he is older, and grown.

cyclinglady Grand Master
6 hours ago, frieze said:

i understand CL point, BUT,,, he is at an age were major growth should be expected, and you might not get that back if you keep him on gluten, even small amounts at school.  if he is a reasonably mature 13 year old i would have a sit down with him and explain the situation, perhaps he would elect to wait till he is older, and grown.

Great advice!  It is so hard to determine the best course of action.     I worry about this very issue with my 17 year old who is due to be retested.  

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Churley replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      10

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - asaT replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      48

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    3. - asaT replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      48

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    4. - nanny marley replied to hjayne19's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      20

      Insomnia help

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,347
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Carla Mort
    Newest Member
    Carla Mort
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Churley
      Have you tried Pure Encapsulations supplements? This is a brand my doctor recommends for me. I have no issues with this brand.
    • asaT
      plant sources of calcium, such as spinach, have calcium bound to oxalates, which is not good. best source of calcium is unfortunately dairy, do you tolerate dairy? fermented dairy like kefir is good and or a little hard cheese. i do eat dairy, i can only take so much dietary restriction and gluten is hard enough! but i guess some people do have bad reactions to it, so different for everyone.  
    • asaT
      i take b12, folate, b2, b6, glycine, Nac, zinc, vk2 mk4, magnesium, coq10, pqq, tmg, creatine, omega 3, molybdnem (sp) and just started vit d. quite a list i know.  I have high homocysteine (last checked it was 19, but is always high and i finally decided to do something about it) and very low vitamin d, 10. have been opposed to this supp in the past, but going to try it at 5k units a day. having a pth test on friday, which is suspect will be high. my homocysteine has come down to around 9 with 3 weeks of these supplements and expect it to go down further. i also started on estrogen/progesterone. I have osteoporosis too, so that is why the hormones.  anyway, i think all celiacs should have homocysteine checked and treated if needed (easy enough with b vit, tmg). homocysteine very bad thing to be high for a whole host of reasons. all the bad ones, heart attack , stroke, alzi, cancer..... one of the most annoying things about celiacs (and there are so many!) is the weight gain. i guess i stayed thin all those years being undiagnosed because i was under absorbing everything including calories. going gluten-free and the weight gain has been terrible, 30#, but i'm sure a lot more went into that (hip replacement - and years of hip pain leading to inactivity when i was previously very active, probably all related to celiacs, menopause) yada yada. i seemed to lose appetite control, like there was low glp, or leptin or whatever all those hormones are that tell you that you are full and to stop eating. my appetite is immense and i'm never full. i guess decades or more ( i think i have had celiacs since at least my teens - was hospitalized for abdominal pain and diarrhea for which spastic colon was eventually diagnosed and had many episodes of diarrhea/abdominal pain through my 20's. but that symptom seemed to go away and i related it to dairy much more so than gluten. Also my growth was stunted, i'm the only shorty in my family. anyway, decades of malabsorption and maldigestion led to constant hunger, at least thats my theory. then when i started absorbing normally, wham!! FAT!!!    
    • nanny marley
      Great advise there I agree with the aniexty part, and the aura migraine has I suffer both, I've also read some great books that have helped I'm going too look the one you mentioned up too thankyou for that, I find a camomile tea just a small one and a gentle wind down before bed has helped me too, I suffer from restless leg syndrome and nerve pain hence I don't always sleep well at the best of times , racing mind catches up I have decorated my whole house in one night in my mind before 🤣 diet changes mindset really help , although I have to say it never just disappears, I find once I came to terms with who I am I managed a lot better  , a misconception is for many to change , that means to heal but that's not always the case , understanding and finding your coping mechanisms are vital tools , it's more productive to find that because there is no failure then no pressure to become something else , it's ok to be sad it's ok to not sleep , it's ok to worry , just try to see it has a journey not a task 🤗
    • nanny marley
      I agree there I've tryed this myself to prove I can't eat gluten or lactose and it sets me back for about a month till I have to go back to being very strict to settle again 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.