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Probiotics may contribute to brain fogginess and bloating


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This small study suggests that taking probiotics may contribute to brain fogginess and bloating.  While it may be  good to keep the large intestine (colon) populated with healthy bacteria, taking probiotics in patients with impaired gastrointestinal mobility (e.g. diabetes, celiac disease) may contribute to issues like SIBO where the bacteria may populate in the small intestine instead.  

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Talk to your doctor about taking a probiotic.  Consider modifying your diet to include foods that can help populate the large intestine (e.g. fermented foods), instead of taking a supplement.  


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