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Please help! Can celiac cause a negative diabetes urine test?

Mharzbarz9959

By Mharzbarz9959
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Mharzbarz9959 Apprentice
Mharzbarz9959
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I am a adolescent female and I have celiac disease. I get all the typical celiac symptoms but over the last couple of days I have developed strange symptoms I have never had before. I feel Extremely. Thirsty all the time even if I drink water, I am urinating constantly but it dosent hurt. I have a new pain in my upper,upper abdomen and I feel faint occaisonally and I am getting leg cramps but I have no idea whether the cramps  are related to diabetes or not. We went to the doctor and the doctor did a urine sample on me to test for sugar in my urine but she said she couldnt detect any. Anyway she booked me in for a blood test to make sure. What I am wondering is if anyone was diagnosed with diabetes type 1 but had a negative urine test? Or if they have heard of anyone like this?. I have also posted a question similair on a diabetes forum but I wanted to see if anyone knew about it from a celiac point of view because I was wondering if something to do with celiac caused the urine test to be negative though I havent researched it yet .Please can you help? Thanks in advance 

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trents Grand Master
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Leg cramps are often caused by mineral deficiencies (magnesium and potassium) and dehydration. Being a celiac, you may not be absorbing these minerals well from your food because of villi damage.

On top of that, if you are urinating excessively and drinking excessive amounts of water you may be flushing out from your body and/or diluting these important minerals. One suggestion I have is to try using one of those sports drinks such as athletes who sweat a lot use that contain these minerals or start eating food that is high in magnesium and potassium. You can research that. Nuts and seeds are generally good sources of magnesium and oranges and potatoes are high in potassium just to give you a starter list. The more important question is why are you so thirsty and feel the need to drink so much water? That question needs to be answered. If you are diabetic I would think by definition you would have sugar in your blood.

The upper quadrant stomach pain you describe could be due to acid reflux and or a hiatal hernia. Not common in your age group but not unheard of either. It could also be caused by an ulcer. This may be a separate issue not related to the thirst and leg cramps. Has anyone suggested an endoscopy to take a look at your upper GI condition?

Are you strictly compliant with your gluten-free diet?

Mharzbarz9959 Apprentice
Mharzbarz9959
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We have been told by the gastroenterologist that I have celiac but they need to do an endoscopy to assess the damage so i am not yet on a gluten free diet though I will be soon. I do have acid reflux and am on acid reflux medicines. Thanks for your help. ? 

trents Grand Master
trents
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Are you having a lot of diarrhea? If so, that could explain your thirst and also produce mineral depletion.

Acid reflux is common among celiacs. I have that and am on medication for it too.

Mharzbarz9959 Apprentice
Mharzbarz9959
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No i dont get diarrhea and I dont throw up. 

cristiana Veteran
cristiana
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7 hours ago, trents said:

Leg cramps are often caused by mineral deficiencies (magnesium and potassium) and dehydration. Being a celiac, you may not be absorbing these minerals well from your food because of villi damage.

On top of that, if you are urinating excessively and drinking excessive amounts of water you may be flushing out from your body and/or diluting these important minerals. One suggestion I have is to try using one of those sports drinks such as athletes who sweat a lot use that contain these minerals or start eating food that is high in magnesium and potassium. You can research that.

This is great advice from Trents, we can easily cause all sorts of imbalances by drinking too much.

I have had several episodes of feeling REALLY thirsty in the last few years. But to date my blood tests and urine tests have been normal.

Whilst I've been reading up about this, I read in several places anemia can cause thirst, too, and my blood iron is often low so that could be it.  Do you know if you are anemic?

Anyway, your doctor is doing exactly the right thing.  Once you get your blood results do come back to us if you need to talk further - there are lots of helpful people on this site. 

 

 

Mharzbarz9959 Apprentice
Mharzbarz9959
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I wasnt anemic a month ago but all my celiac synptoms have gotten worse due to eating gluten for weeks. I dont know but maybe Im anemic now? Im not sure how quickly you can become anemic.

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cristiana Veteran
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My iron levels vary a lot and I hover just above anemic quite often.  My ferritin got better at one stage, rising to 40, and then dropped 20 points literally overnight because of 'women's issues' so I guess it depends on several factors, and also how far you were off being anemic in your last blood test.

If your diabetes test it turns out to be normal as mine was anemia might be something else to consider.

Do keep us posted.

 

Posterboy Mentor
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Mbarz and Cristiana,

If your having Iron issues this is a good thread.

https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/119240-diagnosed-with-ttg-iga-level-of-128-three-days-ago-trying-to-conceive-or-should-i-hold-off/?tab=comments#comment-981475

And see this research entitled "Is achlorhydria a cause of iron deficiency anemia?"

Open Original Shared Link

In short it can be.

quoting their the American Journal of Nutrition conclusion

"The combination of results from these correlational and pathophysiologic studies supports the hypothesis that gastritis-induced achlorhydria can be an independent cause of IDA."

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

2 Timothy 2: 7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included.

Posterboy by the grace of God,

 

cristiana Veteran
cristiana
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Thanks so much for posting that Posterboy.

ch88 Collaborator
ch88
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 I would not expect Celaic disease to interfere with a urine glucose test but it is possible. Celiac disease can cause aches and pains as well as acid reflux. 

Celiac disease can interfere with kidney function. I think that is called IGG nephropathy. If I remember rightly this can be caused by Celiac disease, in some cases, and if so the symptoms improve on a gluten free diet. The kidneys process electrolytes (like salt). Electrolytes play a role in fluid balance and I think thirst.

Water balance is a very complicated process in the body and I could see how celiac disease could interfere with parts of it. 

I don't know if any of this information applies to your symptoms though as I am not a doctor. 

Flash1970 Apprentice
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Hi. I was anemic for years. I didn't know I had celiac. Finally one Dr insisted I go to a gastroenterologist and get tested. It turned out I had celiac disease. I didn't really have other symptoms. Turns out anemia is one of those weird things that can result from celiac. Once I got on a gluten free diet, the anemia was resolved. It takes a long time. I was on a liquid iron supplement forever it seems. The liquid seemed to be absorbed better. Maybe due to the celiac problems. I have read that celiac disease causes really dry skin. I also drink a lot of water. No diabetes. Diabetes is diagnosed with a blood sugar test and I would run away from any Dr doing a urine sugar test. So if you follow the gluten free diet and eat healthy, you won't have so many problems. Lots of nice fresh fruits and vegetables really help. 

 

 

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