Nausea after working out

[Joepilk]

I have celiac and been gluten free for about 4 weeks but whenever i play basketball or run or anything i start to get really bad nausea and whenever i eat anything i sneeze and feels like i have a sore throat after i eat and if i breath out hard i wheeze is this celiac causing this or something more?

[cyclinglady]

Listen to your body and stop working out so much.  Your body is trying to heal.   Not to mention you are learning a new diet!  I get that you want to stay in shape, but try just walking.  You push too hard and you might delay healing.  It is just for a few months.   Believe me, time will fly by fast.  

[Ennis-TX]

The eating, sore throat, sneezing....keep a food diary, you sound like your allergic to something. Heck I developed corn and whey allergies within the first few years after dia.

Working out...damaged guts and all that running, up and down, etc...it is going to aggravate it and make you sick. 5 years later I still feel sick if I try running. I use a stationary bike for cardio, get one of those magnetic resistance ones you can put under a desk or in front of a couch and use it a few hours a day instead. Try resistance and weight training for building strength.

[Beverage]

Another thing to consider ... there is information out there that symptoms that the root cause for some of symptoms like a cold, sore throat (typically a dry cough), or allergies be related to gastric issues, acid reflux, GERD, or silent reflux. 

I had asthma/wheezing and stuffed nose, loss of sense of smell, and dry throat, voice that would get creaky off and on.  I had no current complaints of acid reflux, although before I was diagnosed with Celiac's that was the one digestive system symptom I did have.   I may have gone undiagnosed with Celiac's for decades, so I may have some damage to the valves or whatever they are called, that may or may not ever heal.

I just had my ENT doctor make this connection to acid reflux and he wanted to prescribe me some stomach acid blockers, which I would not take because of the problems with long term use, they can actually make the problem worse after awhile.  Acid blockers are really really bad for you, all kinds of long term bad effects.

For some people, especially as we age, reflux symptoms are from too low stomach acid.  If this sounds like something you want to find out more about, there is some good info from Dr. Jonathan Wright, a well known naturopathic guy about that and recommendations on what to do.  I started by taking about 1 tsp apple cider vinegar (in a little water) and digestive enzymes right before meals and that does seem to help.  So for me, this might be the root cause. I am waiting for some Betaine HCL (hydrochloric acid) tablets to test it out further, but so far with just the ACV, I have seen some improvement. 

Oh, after I started with the ACV, I did notice that I do not drool when I am sleeping (sorry, I know, yuck), which is another symptom of an acid reflux problem, the body trying to soothe what is getting irritated while laying down and that acid sneaking up to the throat.  

But remember ... blocking acid is no bueno. 

I agree with Ennis, food and symptom diary.

 

[Really]

If you have been playing basketball and running all along, something else may be occurring. Histamine intolerance? No cure for that, only relief by following a low histamine diet. 

 

[Ronnie d]

sounds like you need to see a doctor for bronchitis.you can get a bronchial inhaler called albuterol.

  the symptoms you're describing are familiar.usually come from exhertion.your dr can give a breathing test.

[Beverage]

Yes, albuterol is what I was prescribed for the asthma part of my symptoms, which was aggrevated by exertion. 

Albuterol is an easy thing to take, but also has side effects that you should not just think are not a big deal...besides the systemic side effects of inhaling epinephrine, and something that the way it works is to shut down your immune system...does that sound good? 

It also gave me a severe thrush infection (fungal infection in throat, no symptoms they could see as it was further down my throat but I kept telling them it was something wrong down my throat) that they also could not make go away with their fancy drugs and I had to get rid of it by ... yes, with something as simple as apple cider vinegar.  They also tried the longer acting steroid inhalers, which only made my BP go up very high. 

None of these expert specialists (one of the best pulmonologists in my area) ever investigated what was the root cause ....  silent acid reflux.  I suffered with all this for over a year after getting really ill in the flu season more than a year ago and had to go on several courses of antibiotics and use albuterol, all of which messed up the overall system to set up this chain reaction.

Find the root cause, don't just go along with just treating the symptoms or you will never solve the problem, only extend it and possibly make it worse.  I hope you can figure it out, it's not easy when doctors are like plumbers trying to fix an electrical problem with a pipe wrench because that's their specialty and that they are only treating the symptoms.

[Ronnie d]

beverage from edgewood wa, my post was to joepilk, that started this thread

Nausea after working out

By Joepilk, December 27, 2018 in Celiac Disease - Post Diagnosis, Recovery/Treatment(s)

"I have celiac and been gluten free for about 4 weeks but whenever i play basketball or run or anything i start to get really bad nausea and whenever i eat anything i sneeze and feels like i have a sore throat after i eat and if i breath out hard i wheeze is this celiac causing this or something more?"

 

[Beverage]

Yes, Ronnie D, I understand. I read it that way.  I'm just saying that Joepilk's symptoms could be root cause from other things that traditional doctors do not even investigate. I'm just giving example of my experience this past year and more, so that he has an example of how it can be caused from something else and only treating the symptoms does not do anything to eliminate the real problem and can actually make things worse for the person overall.

 

[Ronnie d]

it's why I suggested the breathing test at the doctor.

 

"whenever i play basketball or run or anything i start to get really bad nausea and whenever i eat anything i sneeze and feels like i have a sore throat after i eat and if i breath out hard i wheeze is this celiac causing this or something more?"

having dh,hence celiac,myself,

I can assure him celiac doesn't cause any of his symptoms. I can assure as well that his exertion will factually cause stress on lungs.wheezing is the giveaway,imo

[Beverage]

Yes I understand.  I went through all that also.  It's a good idea, but my experience was that the only thing the pulmonologist prescribed did not help me and only hurt me, as albuterol and all the steroids do to anybody, but it's all these doctors know how to prescribe. 

And the root cause was never addressed after seeing this specialist for over a year. 

The root cause for me was not a breathing/lung problem at all, although the SYMPTOMS presented in the lungs. 

My breathing test before their "treatment" was markedly reduced, after their treatment (albuterol several times a day and steroid inhalers), only slightly better but I was having all kinds of side effects. 

Only improvement (I felt a ton better and proven out by the breathing test) was after I investigated and tried natural treatments that addressed the ROOT CAUSE. 

My suggestion is to not just take things that address only the SYMPTOMS, but to find a doctor that is better at finding the ROOT CAUSE.

 

[Ronnie d]

glad you found your cure.

  now joepilk will have insights to go by.

Ronnie d

[Posterboy]

2 hours ago, Beverage said:

Yes I understand.  I went through all that also.  It's a good idea, but my experience was that the only thing the pulmonologist prescribed did not help me and only hurt me, as albuterol and all the steroids do to anybody, but it's all these doctors know how to prescribe. 

And the root cause was never addressed after seeing this specialist for over a year. 

The root cause for me was not a breathing/lung problem at all, although the SYMPTOMS presented in the lungs. 

My breathing test before their "treatment" was markedly reduced, after their treatment (albuterol several times a day and steroid inhalers), only slightly better but I was having all kinds of side effects. 

Only improvement (I felt a ton better and proven out by the breathing test) was after I investigated and tried natural treatments that addressed the ROOT CAUSE. 

My suggestion is to not just take things that address only the SYMPTOMS, but to find a doctor that is better at finding the ROOT CAUSE.

 

 

On 12/31/2018 at 5:37 PM, Beverage said:

Another thing to consider ... there is information out there that symptoms that the root cause for some of symptoms like a cold, sore throat (typically a dry cough), or allergies be related to gastric issues, acid reflux, GERD, or silent reflux. 

I had asthma/wheezing and stuffed nose, loss of sense of smell, and dry throat, voice that would get creaky off and on.  I had no current complaints of acid reflux, although before I was diagnosed with Celiac's that was the one digestive system symptom I did have.   I may have gone undiagnosed with Celiac's for decades, so I may have some damage to the valves or whatever they are called, that may or may not ever heal.

I just had my ENT doctor make this connection to acid reflux and he wanted to prescribe me some stomach acid blockers, which I would not take because of the problems with long term use, they can actually make the problem worse after awhile.  Acid blockers are really really bad for you, all kinds of long term bad effects.

For some people, especially as we age, reflux symptoms are from too low stomach acid.  If this sounds like something you want to find out more about, there is some good info from Dr. Jonathan Wright, a well known naturopathic guy about that and recommendations on what to do.  I started by taking about 1 tsp apple cider vinegar (in a little water) and digestive enzymes right before meals and that does seem to help.  So for me, this might be the root cause. I am waiting for some Betaine HCL (hydrochloric acid) tablets to test it out further, but so far with just the ACV, I have seen some improvement. 

Oh, after I started with the ACV, I did notice that I do not drool when I am sleeping (sorry, I know, yuck), which is another symptom of an acid reflux problem, the body trying to soothe what is getting irritated while laying down and that acid sneaking up to the throat.  

But remember ... blocking acid is no bueno. 

I agree with Ennis, food and symptom diary.

 

Beverage,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

I had or my friends had  similar problems (asthma etc.) with low stomach acid being misdiagnosed.

I shared my experience my posterboy blog post about how I figured out how (too) low stomach was my root cause.

I am glad to see someone else reach the same conclusion with similar results.

https://www.celiac.com/blogs/entry/2106-is-ncgs-andor-celiac-disease-really-low-stomach-acid-misdiagnosed/

Here is nice an article that explains how PPIs and/or low stomach acid can cause a condition called "chronic cough" leading in time to chronic breathing breathing problems entitled "Management of GERD-Related Chronic Cough".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3740808/

I find I can only tell other's what they should/could to help them in their journey. But it is hard to for most people to understand because you hear it advertised so often as HIGH stomach acid instead.

thanks for sharing......I hope more people listen too you than they have me.

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice. You said it very well. . .the root cause ... causes the symptom's to go away and not come back!

"Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things."

2 Timothy 2:7

Posterboy by the Grace of God,

[Posterboy]

On 12/31/2018 at 5:37 PM, Beverage said:

Another thing to consider ... there is information out there that symptoms that the root cause for some of symptoms like a cold, sore throat (typically a dry cough), or allergies be related to gastric issues, acid reflux, GERD, or silent reflux.

Beverage,

 I also meant to quote this old archive article/research from Webmd about PPIs and Asthma.

3 hours ago, Beverage said:

ut it's all these doctors know how to prescribe.  

And the root cause was never addressed after seeing this specialist for over a year.  

I tried helping my friend at work . . .and why he is tapering back his PPIs ... he is still not off them yet.

https://www.webmd.com/asthma/news/20090408/millions-with-asthma-dont-need-ppis#1

they explain it well . . .just like your experience.

quoting

Asthma and Acid Reflux

"More than 22 million adults and children in the United States have asthma. Studies have found that between 32% and 84% of people with asthma also have acid reflux disease, but many do not have classic acid reflux symptoms, such as heartburn and regurgitation resulting from the backup of acid into the esophagus.

It has been widely believed that acid reflux might contribute to asthma symptoms such as coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, by causing airway constriction."

but quoting again  "When the researchers tested the patients for GERD by measuring acidity levels in the esophagus, they found that (only) 40% of the patients actually did have acid reflux disease."

so PPIs do more harm than good when it comes to Asthma.

Again I hope this is helpful but it is not medical for the next person who might still be suffering.. . .and haven't found the relief Beverage and I have found. .. . treating the root cause.

Posterboy by the grace of God,