Jump to content
  • You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

Excess saliva and sore tongue


Om-Zayd-Waleed

Recommended Posts

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie

Hey y’all, I am so excited to have stumbled upon this forum. I was diagnosed with celiac disease about two years ago. I unfortunately have a horrible time sticking to the diet. When I was first diagnosed I felt sick all the time, had bowel movements at least 6 times a day and just overall felt tired. Now even being off the diet, I still feel normal. The biggest thing has always been the fatigue but I’m also a mother with two young children, so that doesn’t help. The newest symptom is a sore and what feels like a swollen tongue and lots of saliva. I’m not drooling but I feel like it’s making it harder to talk. No one notices it but I do. Could this be a celiac symptom? Anyone else have this issue? Thank y’all so much!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



knitty kitty Grand Master
On 2/29/2020 at 7:21 PM, Om_Zayd&Waleed said:

Hey y’all, I am so excited to have stumbled upon this forum. I was diagnosed with celiac disease about two years ago. I unfortunately have a horrible time sticking to the diet. When I was first diagnosed I felt sick all the time, had bowel movements at least 6 times a day and just overall felt tired. Now even being off the diet, I still feel normal. The biggest thing has always been the fatigue but I’m also a mother with two young children, so that doesn’t help. The newest symptom is a sore and what feels like a swollen tongue and lots of saliva. I’m not drooling but I feel like it’s making it harder to talk. No one notices it but I do. Could this be a celiac symptom? Anyone else have this issue? Thank y’all so much!

Excessive saliva production is caused by a deficiency in Niacin (vitamin B3).  

I experienced this for years before my Celiac diagnosis.  My dentist always commented on it whenever I visited, but my dentist could not explain why this happened. 

Celiac causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition.  Yes, vitamin deficiencies occur in Celiac Disease.  There may be subclinical deficiencies that progress slowly and the deficiency symptoms are often overlooked until you're really seriously ill. 

I suffered for years with serious nutritional deficiencies before my diagnosis.  My doctors did not recognize the nutritional deficiency symptoms. 

The human body needs eight essential B vitamins and Vitamin C. These are water soluble and must be replenished every day.  The human body cannot store these vitamins for much more than two weeks.  They can be lost quickly with diarrhea.  Since Celiac causes damage to the intestinal villi, absorption of more vitamins can be impaired.  

You may be deficient in more than one B vitamin.  The eight essential B vitamins all work together and depend on each other.  If you are low in one, you're more than likely low in others!!! 

The excessive salivation is caused by Niacin deficiency.  The swollen, red tongue can be caused by deficiencies in Niacin,  Cobalamine (aka Vitamin B12), Riboflavin (B2) and Thiamine (B1).  

The fatigue can be caused by B12, pyridoxine, folate, and iron deficiencies.    Celiac causes malabsorption of minerals like iron, calcium and magnesium and trace minerals.  And the fat soluble vitamins, like Vitamin A and D, are often low, too.

Checking for vitamin and mineral deficiencies is part of follow up care for Celiacs.  

Even though you don't feel very bad eating gluten occasionally, you are still doing damage to yourself.  If you want to be around, functional and competent, for your little children, you need to step up and set a good example for them.  Celiac Disease is genetic.  Your children need to be tested for Celiac as well.  

Please get checked for nutritional deficiencies.  Consider supplementing the B Complex vitamins. 

Please take Celiac Disease seriously.  Please don't take the importance of nutrition lightly.  Read, research, learn about nutrition.  Arm yourself with knowledge.  Knowledge is power.

You are doing damage every time you cheat.  Even though you can't feel it, yet, the damage is happening and there will be long term consequences.  I speak from experience.  

Hope this helps.

 

 

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie
14 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

Excessive saliva production is caused by a deficiency in Niacin (vitamin B3).  

I experienced this for years before my Celiac diagnosis.  My dentist always commented on it whenever I visited, but my dentist could not explain why this happened. 

Celiac causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition.  Yes, vitamin deficiencies occur in Celiac Disease.  There may be subclinical deficiencies that progress slowly and the deficiency symptoms are often overlooked until you're really seriously ill. 

I suffered for years with serious nutritional deficiencies before my diagnosis.  My doctors did not recognize the nutritional deficiency symptoms. 

The human body needs eight essential B vitamins and Vitamin C. These are water soluble and must be replenished every day.  The human body cannot store these vitamins for much more than two weeks.  They can be lost quickly with diarrhea.  Since Celiac causes damage to the intestinal villi, absorption of more vitamins can be impaired.  

You may be deficient in more than one B vitamin.  The eight essential B vitamins all work together and depend on each other.  If you are low in one, you're more than likely low in others!!! 

The excessive salivation is caused by Niacin deficiency.  The swollen, red tongue can be caused by deficiencies in Niacin,  Cobalamine (aka Vitamin B12), Riboflavin (B2) and Thiamine (B1).  

The fatigue can be caused by B12, pyridoxine, folate, and iron deficiencies.    Celiac causes malabsorption of minerals like iron, calcium and magnesium and trace minerals.  And the fat soluble vitamins, like Vitamin A and D, are often low, too.

Checking for vitamin and mineral deficiencies is part of follow up care for Celiacs.  

Even though you don't feel very bad eating gluten occasionally, you are still doing damage to yourself.  If you want to be around, functional and competent, for your little children, you need to step up and set a good example for them.  Celiac Disease is genetic.  Your children need to be tested for Celiac as well.  

Please get checked for nutritional deficiencies.  Consider supplementing the B Complex vitamins. 

Please take Celiac Disease seriously.  Please don't take the importance of nutrition lightly.  Read, research, learn about nutrition.  Arm yourself with knowledge.  Knowledge is power.

You are doing damage every time you cheat.  Even though you can't feel it, yet, the damage is happening and there will be long term consequences.  I speak from experience.  

Hope this helps.

 

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. You are absolutely right and I need to hold myself more accountable and stop with the excuses. I keep telling myself maybe I’m not celiac because I went over a year without eating gluten and the only vitamin that was low was iron. My vitamin b was either 290 or 390 but they consider that normal.  I had blood test and a biopsy. Even when the doctor was doing the endoscopy and colonoscopy he didn’t think I had it but the biopsy came back and said that I did. Thanks again for giving me all that information and I will be looking into it more. 

MisterSeth Enthusiast

B complex doesn't show up on the tests and subclinical deficiencies are common with electrolytes. potassium is what your body uses to diffuse most of its fluid, so if something is dry that should be wet or vice versa you're probably not eating enough fruits and veggies

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie

Thank you. I’ll try getting more veggies and fruits in my diet.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - nancydrewandtheceliacclue replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Super Sensitive People
      12

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    2. - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Super Sensitive People
      12

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    3. - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Super Sensitive People
      12

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

    4. - Peace lily commented on Scott Adams's article in Latest Research
      2

      New Study Reveals How the Immune System Learns Which Foods Are Safe to Eat

    5. - nancydrewandtheceliacclue replied to nancydrewandtheceliacclue's topic in Super Sensitive People
      12

      Celiac flare years after diagnosis

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      134,061
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      10,442

    Francisco1007
    Newest Member
    Francisco1007
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.7k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • nancydrewandtheceliacclue
      @Aretaeus Cappadocia and @Russ H thank you both for your helpful advice and information. I haven't seen a GI in years. They never helped me aside from my inital diagnosis. All other help has come from my own research, which is why I came here. I will be even more careful in the future. 
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      @nancydrewandtheceliacclue, you are welcome. After looking at this thread again, I would like to suggest that some of the other comments from @Russ H are worth following up on. The bird-bread may or may not be contributing to what you are experiencing, but it seems unlikely to be the whole story. If you have access to decent healthcare, I would write down your experiences and questions in outline form and bring this to your Dr. I suggest writing it down so you don't get distracted from telling the Dr everything you want to say while you have their attention.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      @Russ H, I partly agree and partly disagree with you. After looking at it again, I would say that the slick graphic I posted overestimates the risk. Your math is solid, although I find estimates of gluten in white bread at 10-12% rather than the 8% you use. Somewhat contradicting what I wrote before, I agree with you that it would be difficult to ingest 10 mg from flinging bread.  However, I would still suggest that @nancydrewandtheceliacclue take precautions against exposure in this activity. I'm not an expert, I could easily be wrong, but if someone is experiencing symptoms and has a known exposure route, it's possible that they are susceptible to less than 10 mg / day, or it is possible that there is/are other undetected sources of exposure that together with this one are causing problems. At any rate, I would want to eliminate any exposure until symptoms are under control before I started testing the safety of potentially risky activities. Here is another representation of what 10 mg of bread would look like. https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/10mgGlutenCrumbsJules.jpg Full article that image came from: https://www.glutenfreewatchdog.org/news/what-does-10-mg-of-gluten-look-like/
    • nancydrewandtheceliacclue
      @Aretaeus Cappadocia thank you for your reply and the link, that is very helpful to get a visual of just how small of an amount can cause a reaction. I know I am not consuming gluten or coming into contact with gluten from any other source. I will stop touching/tossing bread outside! My diet has not changed, and I do not have reactions to the things I am currently eating, which are few in number. My auto immune reaction just seems so severe. The abdominal pain is extreme. It takes a lot out of me. I guess I will be this way for the rest of my life if I ever happen to come into contact with gluten? I appreciate the help. 
    • Jmartes71
      Thankyou I did find out the Infectious disease is the route to go rather than dermatologist. I did reach out to two major hospitals and currently waiting on approval for one of them in Infectious Diseases to call me. I also did have implants ( I didn't know and sense not properly in my medical. Neither did surgeon)in 2006 and there was a leak 2023 during the same time I was dealing with covid, digestive issues, eyes and skin.Considering I " should  be fine" not consuming gluten/wheat, taking vitamins for sibo and STILL feeling terrible.It has to be parasites. I also take individual eye drops prescribed, could there be an issue there? Anyways my pcp thinks I need therapy because again they don't acknowledge my digestive issues because in my records it shows im fine, hintz the reason I had to go back to bay area hospital:(  I thought skin issues maybe sibo related but I feel and have seen and seriously trying not to think about it because it's disgusting. 
×
×
  • Create New...