Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Excess saliva and sore tongue


Om-Zayd-Waleed

Recommended Posts

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie

Hey y’all, I am so excited to have stumbled upon this forum. I was diagnosed with celiac disease about two years ago. I unfortunately have a horrible time sticking to the diet. When I was first diagnosed I felt sick all the time, had bowel movements at least 6 times a day and just overall felt tired. Now even being off the diet, I still feel normal. The biggest thing has always been the fatigue but I’m also a mother with two young children, so that doesn’t help. The newest symptom is a sore and what feels like a swollen tongue and lots of saliva. I’m not drooling but I feel like it’s making it harder to talk. No one notices it but I do. Could this be a celiac symptom? Anyone else have this issue? Thank y’all so much!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



knitty kitty Grand Master
On 2/29/2020 at 7:21 PM, Om_Zayd&Waleed said:

Hey y’all, I am so excited to have stumbled upon this forum. I was diagnosed with celiac disease about two years ago. I unfortunately have a horrible time sticking to the diet. When I was first diagnosed I felt sick all the time, had bowel movements at least 6 times a day and just overall felt tired. Now even being off the diet, I still feel normal. The biggest thing has always been the fatigue but I’m also a mother with two young children, so that doesn’t help. The newest symptom is a sore and what feels like a swollen tongue and lots of saliva. I’m not drooling but I feel like it’s making it harder to talk. No one notices it but I do. Could this be a celiac symptom? Anyone else have this issue? Thank y’all so much!

Excessive saliva production is caused by a deficiency in Niacin (vitamin B3).  

I experienced this for years before my Celiac diagnosis.  My dentist always commented on it whenever I visited, but my dentist could not explain why this happened. 

Celiac causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition.  Yes, vitamin deficiencies occur in Celiac Disease.  There may be subclinical deficiencies that progress slowly and the deficiency symptoms are often overlooked until you're really seriously ill. 

I suffered for years with serious nutritional deficiencies before my diagnosis.  My doctors did not recognize the nutritional deficiency symptoms. 

The human body needs eight essential B vitamins and Vitamin C. These are water soluble and must be replenished every day.  The human body cannot store these vitamins for much more than two weeks.  They can be lost quickly with diarrhea.  Since Celiac causes damage to the intestinal villi, absorption of more vitamins can be impaired.  

You may be deficient in more than one B vitamin.  The eight essential B vitamins all work together and depend on each other.  If you are low in one, you're more than likely low in others!!! 

The excessive salivation is caused by Niacin deficiency.  The swollen, red tongue can be caused by deficiencies in Niacin,  Cobalamine (aka Vitamin B12), Riboflavin (B2) and Thiamine (B1).  

The fatigue can be caused by B12, pyridoxine, folate, and iron deficiencies.    Celiac causes malabsorption of minerals like iron, calcium and magnesium and trace minerals.  And the fat soluble vitamins, like Vitamin A and D, are often low, too.

Checking for vitamin and mineral deficiencies is part of follow up care for Celiacs.  

Even though you don't feel very bad eating gluten occasionally, you are still doing damage to yourself.  If you want to be around, functional and competent, for your little children, you need to step up and set a good example for them.  Celiac Disease is genetic.  Your children need to be tested for Celiac as well.  

Please get checked for nutritional deficiencies.  Consider supplementing the B Complex vitamins. 

Please take Celiac Disease seriously.  Please don't take the importance of nutrition lightly.  Read, research, learn about nutrition.  Arm yourself with knowledge.  Knowledge is power.

You are doing damage every time you cheat.  Even though you can't feel it, yet, the damage is happening and there will be long term consequences.  I speak from experience.  

Hope this helps.

 

 

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie
14 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

Excessive saliva production is caused by a deficiency in Niacin (vitamin B3).  

I experienced this for years before my Celiac diagnosis.  My dentist always commented on it whenever I visited, but my dentist could not explain why this happened. 

Celiac causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition.  Yes, vitamin deficiencies occur in Celiac Disease.  There may be subclinical deficiencies that progress slowly and the deficiency symptoms are often overlooked until you're really seriously ill. 

I suffered for years with serious nutritional deficiencies before my diagnosis.  My doctors did not recognize the nutritional deficiency symptoms. 

The human body needs eight essential B vitamins and Vitamin C. These are water soluble and must be replenished every day.  The human body cannot store these vitamins for much more than two weeks.  They can be lost quickly with diarrhea.  Since Celiac causes damage to the intestinal villi, absorption of more vitamins can be impaired.  

You may be deficient in more than one B vitamin.  The eight essential B vitamins all work together and depend on each other.  If you are low in one, you're more than likely low in others!!! 

The excessive salivation is caused by Niacin deficiency.  The swollen, red tongue can be caused by deficiencies in Niacin,  Cobalamine (aka Vitamin B12), Riboflavin (B2) and Thiamine (B1).  

The fatigue can be caused by B12, pyridoxine, folate, and iron deficiencies.    Celiac causes malabsorption of minerals like iron, calcium and magnesium and trace minerals.  And the fat soluble vitamins, like Vitamin A and D, are often low, too.

Checking for vitamin and mineral deficiencies is part of follow up care for Celiacs.  

Even though you don't feel very bad eating gluten occasionally, you are still doing damage to yourself.  If you want to be around, functional and competent, for your little children, you need to step up and set a good example for them.  Celiac Disease is genetic.  Your children need to be tested for Celiac as well.  

Please get checked for nutritional deficiencies.  Consider supplementing the B Complex vitamins. 

Please take Celiac Disease seriously.  Please don't take the importance of nutrition lightly.  Read, research, learn about nutrition.  Arm yourself with knowledge.  Knowledge is power.

You are doing damage every time you cheat.  Even though you can't feel it, yet, the damage is happening and there will be long term consequences.  I speak from experience.  

Hope this helps.

 

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. You are absolutely right and I need to hold myself more accountable and stop with the excuses. I keep telling myself maybe I’m not celiac because I went over a year without eating gluten and the only vitamin that was low was iron. My vitamin b was either 290 or 390 but they consider that normal.  I had blood test and a biopsy. Even when the doctor was doing the endoscopy and colonoscopy he didn’t think I had it but the biopsy came back and said that I did. Thanks again for giving me all that information and I will be looking into it more. 

MisterSeth Enthusiast

B complex doesn't show up on the tests and subclinical deficiencies are common with electrolytes. potassium is what your body uses to diffuse most of its fluid, so if something is dry that should be wet or vice versa you're probably not eating enough fruits and veggies

Om-Zayd-Waleed Newbie

Thank you. I’ll try getting more veggies and fruits in my diet.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Jmartes71 replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      20

      My only proof

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      44

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      20

      My only proof

    4. - Scott Adams commented on Scott Adams's article in Gluten-Free Grains and Flours
      18

      Cricket Flour Makes Really Good Gluten-Free Bread


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,543
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Jeanette K.
    Newest Member
    Jeanette K.
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):




  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jmartes71
      Thus has got to STOP , medical bit believing us! I literally went through 31 years thinking it was just a food allergy as its downplayed by medical if THEY weren't the ones who diagnosed us! Im positive for HLA-DQ2 which is first celiac patient per Iran and Turkey. Here in the States especially in Cali its why do you feel that way? Why do you think your celiac? Your not eating gluten so its something else.Medical caused me depression. I thought I was safe with my former pcp for 25 years considering i thought everything I went through and going through will be available when I get fired again for health. Health not write-ups my health always come back when you're better.Im not and being tossed away at no fault to my own other than shitty genes.I was denied disability because person said he didn't know how to classify me! I said Im celiac, i have ibs, hernia, sciatica, high blood pressure, in constant pain have skin and eye issues and menopause intensified everything. With that my celiac nightmare began to reprove my disregarded disease to a bunch of clowns who think they are my careteam when they said I didn't have...I feel Im still breathing so I can fight this so no body else has to deal with this nightmare. Starting over with " new care team" and waisting more time on why I think I am when diagnosed in 1994 before food eliminated from my diet. P.s everything i went through I did write to medical board, so pretty sure I will continue to have a hard time.
    • knitty kitty
      @Scatterbrain, Thiamine Vitamin B1 and amino acid Taurine work together.  Our bodies can make Taurine from meats consumed.  Our bodies cannot make Thiamine and must consume thiamine from food.  Meat is the best source of B vitamins like Thiamine.   Vegetarians may not make sufficient taurine since they don't eat meat sources of taurine.  Seaweed is the best vegetarian source of taurine. Vegetarians may not consume sufficient Thiamine since few veggies are good sources.  Whole grains, legumes, and nuts and seeds contain thiamine.  Many of these sources can be hard to digest and absorb for people with Celiac disease.   You may find taking the forms of thiamine called Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) and a B Complex will give the benefits you're looking for better than taurine alone.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I went to Doterra's site and had a look around.  The Doterra TerraZyme supplement really jumped out at me.  Since we, as Celiacs, often have digestive problems, I looked at the ingredients.  The majority of the enzymes in this supplement are made using black mold, Aspergillus!  Other enzymes are made by yeast Saccharomyces!  Considering the fact that Celiac often have permeable intestines (leaky gut syndrome), I would be very hesitant to take a product like this.  Although there may not be live black mold or yeast in the product, the enzymes may still cause an immune system response which would definitely cause inflammation throughout the body.   Skin, eyes, and intestines are all made from the same basic type of cells.  Your skin on the outside and eyes can reflect how irritated the intestines are on the inside.  Our skin, eyes, and intestines all need the same vitamins and nutrients to be healthy:  Vitamin A, Niacin B3 and Tryptophan, Riboflavin B2, Biotin B7, Vitamin C, and Omega Threes.  Remember that the eight B vitamins work together.  Just taking high doses of just one, vitamin like B12, can cause a deficiency in the others.  Taking high doses of B12 can mask a Folate B9 deficiency.  If you take B12, please take a B Complex, too.  Thiamine B1 can be taken in high doses safely without toxicity.  Thiamine is needed by itself to produce energy so every cell in the body can function, but Thiamine also works with the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes and digestive enzymes.  Deficiencies in either Niacin, Vitamin C, or Thiamine can cause digestive problems resulting in Pellagra, Scurvy, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi.   If you change your diet, you will change your intestinal microbiome.  Following the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, a Paleo diet, will starve out SIBO bacteria.  Thiamine keeps bacteria in check so they don't get out of control as in SIBO.  Thiamine also keeps MOLDS and Yeasts from overgrowth.   Menopause symptoms and menstrual irregularities are symptomatic of low Vitamin D.   Doctors are not as knowledgeable about malnutrition as we need them to be.  A nutritionist or dietician would be more helpful.   Take control of your diet and nutrition.  Quit looking for a pill that's going to make you feel better overnight.  The Celiac journey is a marathon, not a sprint.   "Let food be your medicine, and let medicine be your food."
    • RUKen
      The Lindt (Lindor) dairy-free oat milk truffles are definitely gluten-free, and (last time I checked) so are the white chocolate truffles and the mint chocolate truffles. 
    • lmemsm
      I've used magnesium taurinate and magnesium taurate vitamins.  Didn't notice much of a difference when I used them.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.