Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Pissed off at sensitisation


OrangesAndMelons

Recommended Posts

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast

So I've been gluten-free for about eight or nine months now. And it's starting to really annoy me that any time I take even the slightest, tiniest risk, like having a cappuccino while I'm out, I'm struck down with apocalyptic diarrhoea the next morning. I was bloody fine with gluten before. Going gluten-free has reduced my quality of life through costing me money, making me feel socially isolated, causing me a lot of hassle, and making me intermittently ill. All to avoid a couple of minor vitamin deficiencies I can fix with a pill.

Just needed to rant, sorry…

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master

I get your ranting!  It is hard to remain gluten free, but it is doable and you can heal (I did!).  Try to think of implementing strategies that can keep you safe and still experience fun, social situations.  

When I go out for coffee, I play it safe and just get coffee and add cream.  I still get to hang with my friends.   I always keep a cereal type bar in my purse, in case I need a snack or while others are eating.  I plan things like hikes, bike rides, picnics, and museum outings.  I play in an orchestra — fun without food.  

I was undiagnosed for a long time.  It is amazing how the body can adapt to illness.  Like I have a generic anemia that keeps my hemoglobin out of range, yet I can still exercise (won’t make the Olympic team though).  But malnutrition?  That unknowingly wreaked havoc on my bones.  I had some vertebrae fractures discovered two or three months after my celiac disease diagnosis due to osteoporosis (malabsorption).   I also have developed a third autoimmune disorder after a gluten exposure.    So, trying to stay healthy is important.  

Consider joining a volunteer group, get active or cook gluten free.  

Happiness is based on:

1.  Contributing to family and community (in my case, booster clubs, Girl Scouts, helping elderly family members)

2.  Connection— network with family, friends and community (orchestra)

3.  Cope — Find coping mechanisms that work for you.  For me, a bike ride or working in my garden helps me feel better. 

4.  Cook — preparing gluten free REAL food that is tasty.  Nothing like bringing people together with a picnic or around a table.  Sure, I have to host a lot, but it is worth it.  

Did I make this up?  Actually Dr. Robert Lustig MD, a Ped Endo at UCSF did.   I find it wise advice.  ?

 

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast
3 hours ago, cyclinglady said:

I get your ranting!  It is hard to remain gluten free, but it is doable and you can heal (I did!).  Try to think of implementing strategies that can keep you safe and still experience fun, social situations.  

When I go out for coffee, I play it safe and just get coffee and add cream.  I still get to hang with my friends.   I always keep a cereal type bar in my purse, in case I need a snack or while others are eating.  I plan things like hikes, bike rides, picnics, and museum outings.  I play in an orchestra — fun without food.  

I was undiagnosed for a long time.  It is amazing how the body can adapt to illness.  Like I have a generic anemia that keeps my hemoglobin out of range, yet I can still exercise (won’t make the Olympic team though).  But malnutrition?  That unknowingly wreaked havoc on my bones.  I had some vertebrae fractures discovered two or three months after my celiac disease diagnosis due to osteoporosis (malabsorption).   I also have developed a third autoimmune disorder after a gluten exposure.    So, trying to stay healthy is important.  

Consider joining a volunteer group, get active or cook gluten free.  

Happiness is based on:

1.  Contributing to family and community (in my case, booster clubs, Girl Scouts, helping elderly family members)

2.  Connection— network with family, friends and community (orchestra)

3.  Cope — Find coping mechanisms that work for you.  For me, a bike ride or working in my garden helps me feel better. 

4.  Cook — preparing gluten free REAL food that is tasty.  Nothing like bringing people together with a picnic or around a table.  Sure, I have to host a lot, but it is worth it.  

Did I make this up?  Actually Dr. Robert Lustig MD, a Ped Endo at UCSF did.   I find it wise advice.  ?

 

Thanks — I haven't had my DEXA scan yet as they do it 12 months post-dx at my hospital. But I can't see there being any major issues (fingers crossed); my deficiencies (vit D and iron) were so slight they apparently wouldn't have treated them if it weren't for the coeliac disease.

I have limited time for extra activities and cooking… I'm in my final year at one of the world's most competitive universities and it's a nightmare ? In a university setting, almost all social events seen to involve pizza ? Or beer ?? Or pizza and beer ???

 

Was there any way for you to improve your bones, or are bones one of those once-they're-gone-they're-gone things?

cyclinglady Grand Master

I am old!  Postmenopausal. So, building bone was extra tough.  I chose HRT for a year, lifted weights, walked, ran and ate well.   I have not gained nor loss any more bone and have experienced no additional fractures.    You should be able to recover provided you exercise and avoid gluten free junk food since you are young.  I am not even sure most doctors would test for osteoporosis in a person so young.  

I get the university thing.  Have a daughter who is in Engineering.   Very competitive.  She does not have celiac disease.  She does have some food intolerances, so she cooks a bit in the dorm kitchen (that is a bio-hazard according to her).  No time for pizza and beer (at least that is what she says ?).  

Look for a local celiac group.  You might find a celiac grandma (like me) who would drop off gluten-free goodies for you.  I do for one of my daughter’s friends who attends a local University.    We even bake at Christmas.  

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast
39 minutes ago, cyclinglady said:

I am old!  Postmenopausal. So, building bone was extra tough.  I chose HRT for a year, lifted weights, walked, ran and ate well.   I have not gained nor loss any more bone and have experienced no additional fractures.    You should be able to recover provided you exercise and avoid gluten free junk food since you are young.  I am not even sure most doctors would test for osteoporosis in a person so young.  

I get the university thing.  Have a daughter who is in Engineering.   Very competitive.  She does not have celiac disease.  She does have some food intolerances, so she cooks a bit in the dorm kitchen (that is a bio-hazard according to her).  No time for pizza and beer (at least that is what she says ?).  

Look for a local celiac group.  You might find a celiac grandma (like me) who would drop off gluten-free goodies for you.  I do for one of my daughter’s friends who attends a local University.    We even bake at Christmas.  

A DEXA scan is a standard part of the post-diagnosis pathway here (for adults, at least — I don't know anything about the process for children), along with various blood tests and dietitian appointments. I assume it's all fairly evidence-based; the clinic's lead clinician sits on the research strategy board for Coeliac UK and is involved in other research stuff so I'm guessing the scans aren't just done gratuitously. I mean, this is the NHS we're talking about; they don't much like splashing the cash for the sake of it ?

I'm not that young, though! I'm a mature student — mid-thirties. I'm not convinced there's anything I need to recover from — before I went gluten-free I felt the same as I do now, except without the unpleasant reaction to being poisoned every so often… I get regular tests of all sorts of things because of other health issues and generally stuff seems fine, luckily. Well, fine, taking into account all the random diseases I have.

No coeliac groups locally, unfortunately. Well, there's a Facebook group, but nobody's posted on it since about 2014 ? So nice of you to help out your daughter's friend! I miss out on a lot of the gluten-free treats because they're all too sugary, unfortunately — I'm a type 2 diabetic so gluten-free cakes, biscuits etc. are out, unless they're homemade with sugar substitute.

The corridor-mates I share a kitchen with are great; I've had no ill-effects from anything I've prepared in there, though to be fair I'm pretty careful. Every so often one of us cooks for us all and people make sure I can join in — one girl did pancakes for Shrove Tuesday and did a whole gluten-free batch, which was so lovely of her. I have a toaster and a microwave in there that I don't mind people using but which I've requested people keep gluten-free, and they do.

It's just going out that's a pain in the arse.

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast

It can be interesting cooking for the six of us together, though… there's me (gluten free, low sugar, low tyramine), two mostly-gluten-free people, a couple who don't have dairy, one on FODMAPS-but-with-some-stuff-reintroduced, a vegetarian or two, and one who keeps halal. Some of these are the same people. No vegans this year, though, luckily.

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast

I'm also glad that going gluten-free doesn't seem to have messed up my diabetes control too much — was worried because I sometimes use gluten-free bread and pasta substitutes and they're not at all ideal for a type 2. I'd really quite like my doctor or my diabetes nurse to give me a "well done", cause my HbA1c is still indistinguishable from that of a healthy young non-diabetic, but they don't seem to be that big on positive motivation ?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master
1 hour ago, OrangesAndMelons said:

I'm also glad that going gluten-free doesn't seem to have messed up my diabetes control too much — was worried because I sometimes use gluten-free bread and pasta substitutes and they're not at all ideal for a type 2. I'd really quite like my doctor or my diabetes nurse to give me a "well done", cause my HbA1c is still indistinguishable from that of a healthy young non-diabetic, but they don't seem to be that big on positive motivation ?

Good luck with getting brownie points for maintaining your blood sugar from your medical team!  ?. I get the same response. 

 Congratulations ??? for doing a great job on managing your diabetes.  ???

I use fasting and consume a low carb diet.  It works for me and keeps my meter happy.  Do I cheat?  You bet!  But never with gluten, just carbs.  ?

OrangesAndMelons Enthusiast
On 3/10/2020 at 11:02 PM, cyclinglady said:

Good luck with getting brownie points for maintaining your blood sugar from your medical team!  ?. I get the same response. 

 Congratulations ??? for doing a great job on managing your diabetes.  ???

I use fasting and consume a low carb diet.  It works for me and keeps my meter happy.  Do I cheat?  You bet!  But never with gluten, just carbs.  ?

I take 500mg of Metformin a day, which I consider cheating, to be honest… but, it lets me eat carbs and, because of the vagaries of the NHS, taking diabetes medication means I don't have to pay an admin charge to get any of my prescription drugs. Plus, metformin is just generally a useful drug.

I was LCHF for a year and despite enormous quantities of saturated fat, which diabetes nurse was very unhappy about, my blood lipids improved massively, which I found interesting.

Well done to you on your diabetes control too ? 

 

(Sorry for slow response — the notification went to my spam for some reason.)

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,918
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    MaryMJ
    Newest Member
    MaryMJ
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      I agree. Doesn't look like you have celiac disease. Your elevated DGP-IGG must be due to something else. And it was within normal at that after your gluten challenge so it is erratic and doesn't seem to be tied to gluten consumption.
    • Jack Common
      Hello! I want to share my situation. I had symptoms like some food intolerance, diarrhea, bloating, belching one year ago. I thought I could have celiac disease so I did the blood tests. The results were ambiguous for me so I saw the doctor and he said I needed to do tests to check whether I had any parasites as well. It turned out I had giardiasis. After treating it my symptoms didn't disappear immediately. And I decided to start a gluten free diet despite my doctor said I didn't have it. After some time symptoms disappeared but that time it wasn't unclear whether I'd had them because of eliminating gluten or that parasite. The symptoms for both are very similar. Giardiasis also damages the small intestine. The only way to check this was to start eating bread again as I thought. Now about my results.   These are my first test results (almost a year ago) when I had symptoms: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 0.5 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 3.0 is normal) The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 6.6 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 3.0 is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.91 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) IgA Endomysial antibody (EMA) - < 1:10 titer (for the lab I did the tests < 1:10 titer is normal) IgG Endomysial antibody (EMA) - < 1:10 titer (for the lab I did the tests < 1:10 titer is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgA - 0.3 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 6.0 is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 46.1 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 6.0 is normal)   Then I didn't eat gluten for six months. Symptoms disappeared. And I started a gluten challenge. Before the challenge I did some tests. My results: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 0.5 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 28 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   During the challenge I ate 6 slices of wheat bread. After the challenge my results are: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.31 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgA - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 2.13 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   To be sure I continued consuming gluten. I ate a lot each day. Two months after I did the tests again. My results I got today are: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 0.7 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.62 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 25.6 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   Nowadays I didn't have any symptoms except tiredness but I think it's just work. I think it was this parasite because two years ago, for example, and before I didn't have these symptoms and I always ate gluten food. But I'm still not sure especially because the Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG results are sometimes high. What do you think? @Scott Adams
    • Jack Common
      My old results (almost a year ago) are: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 0.5 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 3.0 is normal) The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 6.6 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 3.0 is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.91 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) IgA Endomysial antibody (EMA) - < 1:10 titer (for the lab I did the tests < 1:10 titer is normal) IgG Endomysial antibody (EMA) - < 1:10 titer (for the lab I did the tests < 1:10 titer is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgA - 0.3 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 6.0 is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 46.1 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests 0.0 - 6.0 is normal)   Then I didn't eat gluten for six months and after I started a gluten challenge. Before the challenge I did some tests. My results: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 0.5 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 28 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   During the challenge I ate 6 slices of wheat bread. After the challenge my results are: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) The Tissue Transglutaminase IgG antibody - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.31 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgA - 2.0 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 2.13 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   To be sure I continued consuming gluten. I ate a lot each day. Two months after I did the tests again. My results I got today are: The Tissue Transglutaminase IgA antibody - 0.7 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal) Immunoglobulin A - 1.62 g/l (for the lab I did the tests 0.7 to 4 g/l is normal) Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG - 25.6 U/ml (for the lab I did the tests < 20 U/ml is normal)   I didn't have any symptoms now except tiredness but I think it's just work. I'm not IgA deficient as you can see so I don't need to do this Deamidated gliadin peptide IgG test. But I do because it's sometimes not in the normal range. What do you think this time? I think I don't have celiac disease. But this test... 
    • Wheatwacked
      @plumbago, I found a good PDF on cholesterol:  Unlocking the mysteries of VLDL: exploring its production, intracellular trafficking, and metabolism as therapeutic targets I just started it, but it may have answers for us, with whacky cholesterol.  The pharmaceuticals don't seem to be interested in anything but statins.   "The nicotine in tobacco causes a decrease in the HDL cholesterol level. " Maybe you should start smoking? 🤪 I have high LDL and low HDL.  It is genetic mutations in the LDLR, APOB, PCSK9, or LDLRAP1 genes. My whole family is on statins for Familial Hyperliperdemia except me.  December I had ultrasound and cat scan for Carotid Artery blockage and both sides are above 85% blockage.  I started on Atorvastatin and that made me weaker than ever, even with CoQ10.  I asked for and got prescription for 2000 mg/day Nicotinic Acid B3 and in the 3 weeks my numbers changed. I am feeling realy good lately.  Stronger and more flexible.  Sleeping better.  Getting roto router (TCar) as soon as I get clearance from a cardiologist.  I expect that by my next blood panels in April to be even better. I am beginning to believe that like vitamin D where the RDA only accounts for preventing Rickets, the RDA for B3 is way underestimated.   From Oct 22 to Jan 17: A1c from 13.5 to 10.2 eGFR from 55 to 79 Triglyeride from 458 to 362 Total cholesterol from 245 to 264 HDL from 27 to 44 VLDL from 84 to 68 LDL from 134 to 154
    • plumbago
      I have taken thiamine on and off (just not at this exact moment), and I’m not sure it's made any difference. Yes, I almost always “fast” (12 hours NPO) for blood tests, as do a great many other Americans, so I tend to think that’s not it. All I can say is that the mystery continues. I could do some speculating here…well, heck, let me go ahead and speculate now: The lab ranges we all see on our reports are more or less the averages of Americans who have had those blood tests. Now, it’s up to you and me whether or not to think of the average American as healthy. I can make arguments both ways, more often than not, on the negative. My point here is that maybe the current range of HDL is somewhat skewed (ie, low), and maybe just maybe my super high (plus 100s) HDL results are not something to worry about; the range just needs updating. Why do I say this? Because pre-celiac disease diagnosis, my HDL values were in the normal range, but post celiac disease diagnosis, my HDL levels are way above average. See where I’m going? My trusty guidebook on celiac disease, Recognizing Celiac Disease by Cleo Libonati, RN, BSN, says that HDL increases after being on the gluten free diet. Or can increase, I guess. Then again, it could be something else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In thinking of going to a cardiologist, I sort of fear that he/she will be dismissive of a link to celiac disease, treated celiac disease, and would not therefore be considering all possibilities. @trents I'm sorry you've been diligently working on your numbers to no effect. That must be frustrating. LDL is a world that is far better understood than HDL, so for you there's maybe less "mystery." Familial hypercholesterolemia is for sure something that can be tested. Outside of that, you're right, genetics can determine a general pattern.
×
×
  • Create New...