Mcdonald's French Fries Not Safe?

[VydorScope]

As for me, I use Firefox as my browser, never went to their site prior to today and it still shows no indication that it is NOT gluten free.

For crying out loud, check the dang date on the page if it does not say 2-7-2006 you have an old copy of the page. You realy think everyon in this thread is lieing about McDonlads page stating they have gluten in thier fires on the page?

Any one know if i can legally mirror the blasted page>? I am guessing htey have mulple server and not all of THIER servers are updated.

[Guest nini]

is the issue that the .pdf file is correct but the list on the page itself has still not been corrected? I think that may be at least part of the issue.

when I download the .pdf file I see very clearly wheat and gluten blah blah blah, but just looking at the list on the page it still has fries on the gluten free list... but download the .pdf for the gluten free list and I no longer see fries listed.

[VydorScope]

is the issue that the .pdf file is correct but the list on the page itself has still not been corrected? I think that may be at least part of the issue.

when I download the .pdf file I see very clearly wheat and gluten blah blah blah, but just looking at the list on the page it still has fries on the gluten free list... but download the .pdf for the gluten free list and I no longer see fries listed.

Agian Check the date on the page. If its anything other then "This list is effective 02-07-2006. " you have an old copy of the page. The current copy of the page clearly states fries have gluten AND wheat in them.

This is why they date the page.

[Guest nini]

Agian Check the date on the page. If its anything other then "This list is effective 02-07-2006. " you have an old copy of the page. The current copy of the page clearly states fries have gluten AND wheat in them.

This is why they date the page.

I know that, I was just wondering if that was the issue for other people?

[VydorScope]

I know that, I was just wondering if that was the issue for other people?

I think the problem here is that McDonalds has mulitple web servers (fairly normal) but they have not done a good job updating all their servers, so what version of hte page you see depends on what server you hit. That would explain the cookies comment a few posts back.

But that is jsut a guess.

[Timber4est]

For crying out loud, check the dang date on the page if it does not say 2-7-2006 you have an old copy of the page. You realy think everyon in this thread is lieing about McDonlads page stating they have gluten in thier fires on the page?

Any one know if i can legally mirror the blasted page>? I am guessing htey have mulple server and not all of THIER servers are updated.

Didn't mean to upset you. Holy cow. First, I never said I thought McD was lying, nor did I ever indicate that I thought everyone else was trying to pull the wool over my eyes. Clearing my cache for a site I have never visited will do nothing, it clearly shows an updated 2-7 and I use fire fox as my browser. I posted that because I think it is a coding issue between the corporate person who updated the page writing browser specific code. I am quite well versed in computer and html and thought that would help others. In IE it shows up just fine.

Again sorry to upset you, I will leave you alone to bludgeon the next poor soul.

[Canadian Karen]

I think the inability of McDonalds to have their pages properly updated is only adding to the frustration we feel......

Just for your information, I received a response from David at the Wall Street Journal and he is looking into it. Let's hope he can get some answers for us......

You rock, David!

Hugs.

Karen

[Ashley]

Well...excuse me, but, this sucks. This is confusing, I've had managers tell them they are gluten-free, McDonald's lists say gluten-free, now they're not. Grr...Though I detest saying, I think it would be in everyone's best interest just to avoid McDonald's completely. Don't trust Burger King either. They say fries are dipped in gease alone, but, my cousin finds an Onion Ring staring at him in his french fries. Liars.

Though this has nothing to do with the topic on hand, MSN just released an article about high trans fats levels in fries.

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[Guest nini]

CNN Money posted a similar article about McDonald's admitting to higher trans fat in their fries than previously disclosed, so I sent them an e-mail adding the info about the non gluten free fries...

[VydorScope]

I copied the page earlier.

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I do not know what games they are playing, if any, but that is their unedited page as it was today after they updated it to 2/7/2006.

Didn't mean to upset you. Holy cow. First, I never said I thought McD was lying, nor did I ever indicate that I thought everyone else was trying to pull the wool over my eyes. Clearing my cache for a site I have never visited will do nothing, it clearly shows an updated 2-7 and I use fire fox as my browser. I posted that because I think it is a coding issue between the corporate person who updated the page writing browser specific code. I am quite well versed in computer and html and thought that would help others. In IE it shows up just fine.

Again sorry to upset you, I will leave you alone to bludgeon the next poor soul.

HOly cow is right. Sorry my wording was horredonus. I need to get better about slowing donw and reading what I write sometimes!

Anywans, check this :

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Since you state your good wiht "html", I used wget on a debian server in Cailf (I live in TN) to grab the page while it was still up, I did not edit any ofhte content. All that content would be post ASP proccessing on their end. That page never came via my desktop (windows xp pro) so if they are playing any games its not based on OS or BROWSER OR ISP OR STATE since IE, Firefox, and that WGET, Deibain and Windows, in TN and Calif all showed the same exact page. I am not upset with you, and I appollogize for my extremly out of line wording.

[jnifred]

ok, I was trying to keep my not so nice thoughts to myself, but I am in a mood, and so here goes.

We are talking about FRENCH FRIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some of you seriously need to take a gluten free chill pill. So Mc'D's is trying to figure out what they are doing, they are a HUGE corporation, with a bizzillion people trying to make one decision and the input of 14,000 lawyers on top of that. So there is some confusion . REALLY?? I can't imagine.

SO here's the scoop, if you are concerned, don't eat McD's fries until you are comfortable with the info McD gives, if you want to eat them with the risk involved, then eat them. If in a pinch, I think I will eat them, they ahven't made me sick yet, and yes I do understand that I could be ahving damage without knowing it, but sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. Do or don't, but for crying out loud, stop attacking fellow Celiacs just because they are confused about the info McD's is putting out there, as it seems McD's is confused also.

And can we just give McD a little time to figure it all out. Seems to me they got new info from a supplier regarding this, they are trying to comply with the new law and people who know nothing about Celiac are trying to make as educated a guess as possible, I mean like this is unheard of??????? Everyone is sooooo shocked by this ???????? I agree they need to get their act together and put out correct info, but come on, they are people also, and people unfortunetly are not perfect and will sometimes make a mistake. Give them a chance to rectify their mistake before villifying them. It may take more than 24 hours, sometimes patience really is a good thing.

As a person new to this gluten free stuff, I think sometimes some people on here are a little harsh towards those that don't have the gluten-free issue. It is hard to take in and understand, why can't we be a little less abrasive to those that don't understand the gluten free existence.

So there, I am sure some of you will not like what I had to say, but OH WELL.......I am really just not myself lately....

[Canadian Karen]

Richard Cantrill, technical director at the American Oil Chemists' Society, a non-profit group that provides testing methodologies for oil and fat, said a 10 per cent swing in the trans fat content of fries between different testing methods "would be what you could quite reasonably expect

This was in the MSN link above. I have sent the e-mail below to Mr. Cantrill:

McDonald's has recently disclosed (as of Feb 2006) that their french fries contain wheat (which means they contain gluten). They state there has been no change in ingredients but now have to disclose this due to the new laws in the U.S. re labelling. They state it is their stance that the fries always were gluten free due to the process of cooking which kills the gluten. We are not aware of ANY process that would kill gluten during the cooking process.

If this is the case, McDonald's has been falsely claiming a product to be gluten free all along and hundreds of thousands of celiacs trusted them to tell us the truth.

Below is a link to explain what is currently going on:

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We are desperately trying to seek the truth. Is the process of "par-frying" able to remove any traces of gluten?

Any help you would be able to give us would be great appreciated by a whole celiac community trying to find out if these fries are safe or not.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Kind regards,

Maybe they might be able to tell us something......

Karen

[VydorScope]

OKay I am home from work now, and just checked from home, my computer showed the 9-28-2005 page UNTIL I remove a cookie named "mdchoice" from Firefox. Now it shows the 2-7-2006 and clearly states gluten in the fries.

I do not know what they are doing over there, only time will tell at this point I guess.

[tiredofdoctors]

You're right. We are talking about french fries. But we are also talking about a food which, according to what McDonald's formerly published, was safe for me to eat. But it wasn't, and I wonder how many perkinje cells in my cerebellum were destroyed, how much of my peripheral nervous system was destroyed, and how much of my retinas were destroyed -- all because they chose to post something that was incorrect? You see, I have gluten ataxia -- each time I eat gluten, it's just another few cells which I lose in my cerebellum et. al. I'm already in a wheelchair because it was caught too late. What do I do when it destroys the entire cerebellum, which controls all coordination throughout your body?

So you see, for me, it's not just about french fries. It's about a much larger issue. McDonald's told me that their food was safe, so I ate it. And it continued to damage cells in my body that do not regenerate -- I won't just "get better". THAT is why I am very passionate about their lies.

And as for me, since I was told in last March that I was no longer safe to drive or walk with a walker, and have had to close down a lucrative physical therapy practice which I owned, and have changed from the vibrant, active person I used to be . . . well, I guess I'm just not "myself" anymore, either.

[Canadian Karen]

I just heard back from Mr. Catrill. The OACS does not have any information regarding the formulation of "par-fryed" foods. Oh well, worth a try......

I am not even going to begin to address jnifred's post....... don't trust myself.

Karen

[jkmunchkin]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know I am planning on sending an e-mail to David Carpenter, who wrote the article posted earlier, "McDonald's says fries have more trans fats." I am going to send this tomorrow, so it comes from my work e-mail address. I feel like maybe it will be taken a tad bit more seriously if he sees I am also in media.

I'll let you know if anything comes of it.

[jknnej]

Well I'm just plain bummed out. McD's fries were one of the last things I liked that I could eat when traveling. They suck.

[Rachel--24]

WOAH!!!

20 pages and nearly 300 posts later I'm learning about this for the first time!

I'm actually more shocked about that than I am about the dang fries having gluten in them.

I havent eaten the fries in over a year but McDonalds was my all-time favorite restaraunt in my healthy days. I kept thinking when I'm healed at least I'll be able to still eat the fries. What a bummer. I think I'll probably still eat the fries. I dont know if I'll react or not but dang it....I'm not gonna give up on my dreams of having McDonalds French Fries again!

[celiac3270]

I'm upset because I relied on them as a security layer-- in other words, when you're starving in the middle of nowhere with no gluten-free food, at least there's McD's... no longer. And I feel deceived/betrayed by them (see the phone conversations thread).

[Judyin Philly]

I'm upset because I relied on them as a security layer-- in other words, when you're starving in the middle of nowhere with no gluten-free food, at least there's McD's... no longer. And I feel deceived/betrayed by them (see the phone conversations thread).

DITO EVERYTHING YOU SAID..It was my ace in the hole when traveling to add to 'my brown bag' which gets soooooooooo boring.

Judy in Philly

[tiredofdoctors]

Jillian -- go get 'em girl!!!!! Thanks for the support! . . Lynne

[Judyin Philly]

I copied the page earlier.

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Anywans, check this :

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Vincent--

what the hell can they do to tomatoes can't they just leave them alone for heavens sake..

their gone too along with the hashbrowns, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

If you look at what's left..hummmmmm NOT A WHOLE H*** OF ALOT.

Judy in Philly

[VydorScope]

Vincent--

what the hell can they do to tomatoes can't they just leave them alone for heavens sake..

their gone too along with the hashbrowns, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

If you look at what's left..hummmmmm NOT A WHOLE H*** OF ALOT.

Judy in Philly

I dunno what they did to the tomatoes, nor am I sure waht your refering to? LOL

[celiac3270]

The ketchup's fine if that's what you mean. Whoopee! I can go to McD's and have ketchup packets and salt! And if I really want to go all out, I can try the pepper or the honey, also gluten-free.

[VydorScope]

The ketchup's fine if that's what you mean. Whoopee! I can go to McD's and have ketchup packets and salt! And if I really want to go all out, I can try the pepper or the honey, also gluten-free.

OH! Thank GOD! At least theres somthing we can eat there! I was worreid I would have to stop eating all that healthy food they serve too!