Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Please Help Me Figure Out These Results


Laura--G

Recommended Posts

Laura--G Rookie

Hey everyone! I have 2 sons. One is a type 1 Diabetic and tested positive for Celiac and he's having his biopsy tomorrow. I decided to have the other one tested this week. His doctor isn't familiar with Celiac so she couldn't really help me with the test results but is having a GI speicialist call me....I can't wait that long so I'm here hehe. She did a Celiac panel with 5 blood tests. 4 came back negative but the IGG (is that rigjt???) came back strong positive. So, my question is does he have Celiac or not...what else could a positive IGG mean? Thanks for any help you guys may have!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



slpinsd Contributor

I would say that he is definitely gluten sensitive. Other markers like tTg and IgA are more specific for Celiac, but you can have celiac and have only an elevated IgG. Since one of your sons has Celiac, it is likely that the other has the genes for it, as well. I would put him on a gluten-free diet and see the positive changes. Even if he is not Celiac at this point, with a positive genetic makeup, he could develop Celiac if he continues to eat gluten. Your son could even have a positive biopsy, and still have Celiac, because damage can be missed in early stages, and also the damage could be spotty and be missed. A negative blood test or biopsy doesn't rule out Celiac, but a positive biopsy rules it in.

It is also possible that he is IgA deficient, in that case, it would skew the results of the other tests.

Guest Robbin

Laura, I have 2 sons and one is a type 1 diabetic also. I am wondering if the diabetes may cause an IgA deficiency? It sure affects so many other things. I am glad you are able to convince him to be tested. (mine is 21 and won't listen to me) Maybe yours are very young or at least reasonable(!) Keep us posted on how you are all doing. :)

Laura--G Rookie
Laura, I have 2 sons and one is a type 1 diabetic also. I am wondering if the diabetes may cause an IgA deficiency? It sure affects so many other things. I am glad you are able to convince him to be tested. (mine is 21 and won't listen to me) Maybe yours are very young or at least reasonable(!) Keep us posted on how you are all doing. :)

:D My son is only 5 and he had no idea he was going in to be tested. I figured it was easier to just take him in and spring it on him instead of letting him make that decision. Unfortunately, my kids are also allergic to peanuts and fish and milk so our menu will be very limited with Celiac now. Thanks for the replies, I guess it doesn't matter if he definitely has it or not. I don't have time to make 2 meals for dinner so we are all going gluten-free I think.

heli Newbie

IgG positive really is not specific enough. What you want to know is, "which antibodies were positive?" The panel should have included tissue trasnglutaminase (tTg), antigliadin antibodies, anitendomysium antibodies, and I can't think of the other one right now that is in the standard panel. I'm not sure what the fifth one would be either, unless it is IgA.

Again, you want to know which anitbodies reacted. Saying IgG is too general. Lots of things can make IgG react. As a comparative, it would be like saying my IgE reacted. (IgE is the true allergy reaction like hives, itching, or anaphylaxis). What you really want to know about IgE is what food triggered it. So, with IgG you want to know which antibodies are causing the IgG to react.

Laura--G Rookie

Just got the numbers from our doctor. His IgG was 24, she said positive was 9. His tTG was only a 2.

ebrbetty Rising Star

this is what I read online when I got my tests back

Testing for Coeliac.

while an intestinal biopsy is the ‘gold standard’ for diagnosing celiac disease, there are now blood tests available to screen for celiac disease.

Testing is simple and involves either screening a pin-prick of blood for Anti-gliadin (AGA) or tTG-IgA Antibodies.

Transglutaminase IgA test (tTG-IgA)

This is a new immunological marker for the identification of patients with celiac disease. External studies have shown that our Transglutaminase IgA test results show a 99% – 100% correlation with the "gold standard" endomysial antibodies tests. A positive tTG IgA result is compelling evidence of celiac disease, provided the patient is not already on a gluten free diet.

Some Celiac patients suffer from IgA deficiency and in these cases, tTG-IgA will be falsely negative. In such cases, the Anti-gliadin test may prove more useful.

Anti-gliadin test

Gliadin is a major protein found in the gluten fraction of wheat. Gliadin antibodies are found in 95% of coeliac patients, provided the patient is not on a gluten free diet, but they are also present in some other diseases. For this reason both classes of antibodies are measured. The test measures the two key antibodies (IgA & IgG) to gliadin.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Guest alex j

Laura,

This is kind of freaky. I have two sons (and a daughter), the older son has type 1 diabetes, was recently diagnosed with celiac through positive blood tests confirmed by biopsy; I had his brother tested and everything was negative except his IgG gliadin which was positive. I came here to ask exactly the same question you did.

Oh, and my oldest son is also allergic to fish, tree nuts, egg and peas/lentils/some beans, and the youngest is allergic to milk (which you're right, doesn't make the diet any easier).

If you find anything useful out please post. I called the GI to ask if I should keep the little one on gluten so we could investigate further. The GI said it's not necessary for the little one to go gluten free, but if I want to then go for it; in either case retest in 6 mos. Of course I won't be able to if he goes gluten free. He's basically gluten free anyway; I'm unsure whether to make him strictly gluten free to in an attempt to resolve his horrible constipation, or push for more testing.

I know with my older son I needed definitive test/biopsy results because he was virtually asymptomatic. (He tested through the roof on TTG; positive on everything else except I think IgG). He was only tested because his endo thought malabsorbtion might have been the culprit with our blood sugar control problems - and even he was surprised it was positive.

I don't have any problem maintaining a gluten free diet for the little one now, with no testing to back it up. Relief of symptoms would certainly be motivation enough. But if it is possible to find out if it is celiac now, I would like to - I know that otherwise we will end up challenging gluten when he is older, and if he has celiac that will not be good for him.

Alex

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,115
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    hsmilie
    Newest Member
    hsmilie
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      69.9k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Soleihey
      I have been on supplementation for almost 11 months with no deficiencies showing up on blood work. So was just hoping to hear someone else’s story where it took longer to heal. 
    • Erain
      Here’s the answer from the company 😊   Hi Emily,    Thank you for reaching out to us! We can confirm the Organic Protein + 50 Superfoods Powder is gluten free. The organic barley and wheatgrasses we use are harvested prior to jointing, before the grain forms and any gluten protein is present. Rest assured appropriate measures are taken to ensure our gluten free products comply with the FDA final rule to be labeled as gluten free, as claimed on the side-panel label. Our suppliers are required to verify each ingredient and in order to ensure that our gluten free products comply with the FDA requirements, our manufacturing facilities use the ELISA test method to confirm gluten levels are less than the standard limit of <20 ppm.    If you have allergy concerns about consuming the grasses, we recommend consulting further with your healthcare provider. I hope this information helps! Please let us know if you have other questions.   
    • Erain
      That’s great to know. Thanks Scott
    • trents
      Welcome to the forum, @kim-d! Recently revised guidelines or the "gluten challenge" recommends the daily consumption of at least 10g of gluten for at least two weeks up until the day of the antibody test blood draw. 10g of gluten is the amount found in about 4-6 slices of wheat bread. IMO, I would wait until you have time to do it right so as to remove all doubt as to whether or not your gluten consumption was adequate for long enough to ensure valid testing. In the meantime, focus on removing gluten from your diet and see how your symptoms improve (or not) as one piece of the diagnostic puzzle.
    • kim-d
      Hello. I'm a 22 year old college student and I've had constant stomach problems since I was 14. Recently I noticed that my problems get worse when I eat more wheat. I tried to follow a gluten free diet, which didn't end up entirely gluten free, but I still had reduced my gluten consumption very much, and I felt a lot better. I also have fatigue, inability to gain any weight, iron deficiency, possible vitamin deficiencies, really bad memory and brain fog that increases by time, unexplainable muscle aches and tachycardia which all can possibly explained by celiac/NCGS.  I wasn't able to continue a completely gluten free diet as I am eating from my school and dorm's cafeteria and almost all food there have gluten so I was going very hungry. They do offer a gluten free menu with a report though. So I decided I should try getting a diagnosis if I can, especially after reading how it was much harder to do gluten challenge after quitting gluten for a while. I was able to get an appointment for next week, and started eating around 150gr of bread per day to be sure.  First 24 hours I didn't feel any worse so I was starting to doubt myself, but then bloating hit hard. It wasn't anything unbearable, but the problem is I have finals soon and I'm now realizing this is a really bad time to do this. I can't begin studying from pain distracting me. I'm thinking of cancelling the appointment and eat low gluten until exams are over.  I worry about one thing. Before I went low gluten, I was eating a lot of bread already for over a month, which is what clued me into gluten, and I only went low gluten for around 10 days before going high gluten again. I wasn't that worried about a false negative. But if I eat low gluten until my exams are over, it means over a month of low gluten, and I would need a lot more time eating high gluten later to get a correct result.  I'm not sure which one should I do, bear it until my appointment or cancel it and try again when I'm free later. And If I choose the second one, how long would I need to do the gluten challenge for a blood test?
×
×
  • Create New...