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Strep as a child and then diagnosed with Celiac disease as a young adult

Ray Ray 6
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My son would be diagnosed with strep throat every time he'd get sick. Now he has Celiac disease. Is there a correlation?

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Maybe.  Is he immunoglobulin A or G deficient?  Many celiacs are deficient in IgA or IgG making them more susceptible to infections.  An IgA deficiency is often caught during celiac disease blood testing.  

trents Grand Master
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Infections and other bodily stress events have long been thought to trigger the onset of Celiac disease. So have frequent administrations of antibiotics because, or so it is presumed, they change the micro organic environment of the gut.

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On 7/10/2020 at 5:57 PM, Ray Ray 6 said:

My son would be diagnosed with strep throat every time he'd get sick. Now he has Celiac disease. Is there a correlation?

Ray Ray,

There might be ......but it would be hard to prove....

If it was Epstein Barr Virus being misdiagnosed as Strep.....EBV has be been associated with Celiac disease.

Here is a couple of links about it....

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-04-epstein-barr-virus-linked-diseases.html

If  he has a lot of fatigue with his Strep Throat (then or since) it might really be the Epstein Barr Virus being misdiagnosed as Strep Throat..

Here is an article about it....

https://www.medicinenet.com/sore_throat_is_it_mono/views.htm

Also the Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) has been shown to lead to chronic fatigue because it interferes with Magnesium in the body....

Here is an article about it....

http://simmaronresearch.com/2015/08/epstein-barr-virus-the-magnesium-connection/

Taking some Magnesium Glycinate (non flushing form of Magnesium) it will/can help with your sons Fatigue issues if it is EBV being misdiagnosed as Strep Instead....

See this Hormone's Matter article where someone else had similar problems with Strep and it turned out to be a Thiamine problem ultimately....

quoting from the article...."

At age 13, I began having frequent bouts of tonsillitis and with each episode, I was given a course of antibiotics. Eventually, I was taking antibiotics every three months along with ibuprofen continuously."

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-gardasil-fluoroquinolones/

a couple different types of antibiotics can make us low in Thiamine so.....repeated rounds can really mess with our system.....and it CAN be a long way back....if doctor's are not aware of these connections....

But the Floroquinolones class of antibiotics is especially notorious for it..

Here is an article about it....

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/fluoroquinolone-antibiotic-dangers/

I think the Hormones Matter article will explain itself.....

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise.

Posterboy,

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1 hour ago, Posterboy said:

Ray Ray,

There might be ......but it would be hard to prove....

If it was Epstein Barr Virus being misdiagnosed as Strep.....EBV has be been associated with Celiac disease.

Here is a couple of links about it....

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-04-epstein-barr-virus-linked-diseases.html

If  he has a lot of fatigue with his Strep Throat (then or since) it might really be the Epstein Barr Virus being misdiagnosed as Strep Throat..

Here is an article about it....

https://www.medicinenet.com/sore_throat_is_it_mono/views.htm

Also the Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) has been shown to lead to chronic fatigue because it interferes with Magnesium in the body....

Here is an article about it....

http://simmaronresearch.com/2015/08/epstein-barr-virus-the-magnesium-connection/

Taking some Magnesium Glycinate (non flushing form of Magnesium) it will/can help with your sons Fatigue issues if it is EBV being misdiagnosed as Strep Instead....

See this Hormone's Matter article where someone else had similar problems with Strep and it turned out to be a Thiamine problem ultimately....

quoting from the article...."

At age 13, I began having frequent bouts of tonsillitis and with each episode, I was given a course of antibiotics. Eventually, I was taking antibiotics every three months along with ibuprofen continuously."

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-gardasil-fluoroquinolones/

a couple different types of antibiotics can make us low in Thiamine so.....repeated rounds can really mess with our system.....and it CAN be a long way back....if doctor's are not aware of these connections....

But the Floroquinolones class of antibiotics is especially notorious for it..

Here is an article about it....

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/fluoroquinolone-antibiotic-dangers/

I think the Hormones Matter article will explain itself.....

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise.

Posterboy,

I can attest Floroquinolone are awful. I was prescribed Cipro in the early 1990s when info like what you have offered here was not available. I only took it that one time. I told Dr's after that I reacted to it. 

Who knows how much of my ANS/CNS is related to Cipro not celiac. 

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