Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Do these symptoms fit?


alittle

Recommended Posts

alittle Newbie

Hello,

I’ve had IBS for as long as I can remember. I live overseas and my gut seems to to be getting worse since I moved here (coming up on 2 years from Canada). I had a colonoscopy back in my 20s (almost 40 now) but it didn’t show anything. I’m currently awaiting blood results but thought I’d ask you your thoughts while I wait.

Family history- mother has diverticulitis, brother has ulcerative colitis, cousin has celiac. 
 

Here are my symptoms:

- gut wrenching pain- like someone is wringing out my insides

- bloating and burping

- diarrhea 

- nausea

- bouts of what appears to be food poisoning (twice in the last 6 months)

- super iron deficient

- tired all the time

- HLA- DQ2.5 genetic variant 

- Zonulin level high 

- positive for anti- nuclear anti-bodies.

I’ve never really had a problem with gluten before or at least I don’t think I do. So, I’ve never even tried a gluten-free diet and now I’m not going to until I’ve had scopes which I’m pretty sure will be my next steps.

thoughts or advice?

Thanks in advance!

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cristiana Veteran

Hello alittle and welcome to the forum!

Here in the UK where I live a large percentage of IBS sufferers turn out to be coeliacs when they are finally tested.  There was a big campaign about it here a few years ago - the number was astonishing, I think it was nearly  a third, although I've just read another figure - one in four.   Of course, there can also be overlap - I happen to have both conditions, according to my gastroenterologist! So I think you are very wise to try to rule out coeliac disease.  

Keep us posted!

Cristiana

GodsGal Community Regular
2 hours ago, alittle said:

Hello,

I’ve had IBS for as long as I can remember. I live overseas and my gut seems to to be getting worse since I moved here (coming up on 2 years from Canada). I had a colonoscopy back in my 20s (almost 40 now) but it didn’t show anything. I’m currently awaiting blood results but thought I’d ask you your thoughts while I wait.

Family history- mother has diverticulitis, brother has ulcerative colitis, cousin has celiac. 
 

Here are my symptoms:

- gut wrenching pain- like someone is wringing out my insides

- bloating and burping

- diarrhea 

- nausea

- bouts of what appears to be food poisoning (twice in the last 6 months)

- super iron deficient

- tired all the time

- HLA- DQ2.5 genetic variant 

- Zonulin level high 

- positive for anti- nuclear anti-bodies.

I’ve never really had a problem with gluten before or at least I don’t think I do. So, I’ve never even tried a gluten-free diet and now I’m not going to until I’ve had scopes which I’m pretty sure will be my next steps.

thoughts or advice?

Thanks in advance!

 

Hi! Sorry you are feeling so bad! That's no fun. I am not a medical professional. Please don't take any of this as medical advice. I think that you are definitely on the right track and that you are wise to wait on going gluten free until you get the tests/scans done. 

A couple of questions are coming to mind:

1) You mentioned that your symptoms are worse since moving. Have there been any significant changes in your diet?

2) Have you ruled out any other intolerances (i.e. dairy, eggs, corn, etc)?

I hope this helps and that you can get relief soon! Keep us posted!

Dianasolvei Rookie

I have IBS as well as the DQ8 gene. I kept going gluten free because every time I eat something with it I get super sick. Dr. tested me, but I’d been off gluten for many months. She wanted to do a gluten challenge with me but I’m not going there! I don’t want to have to face recovery and lose months of health for it! Her current recommendation is just to completely avoid gluten as there is a suspicion of celiac. I had similar symptoms to you, and it ended up that my blood sugar was too high. Turned out to be the start of pre-diabetes. Ugh.

Scott Adams Grand Master

Hi @Dianasolvei, welcome to the forum!

If I were pre-diabetic I would go on a paleo diet. Everything I've read on this points to too many carbs & sugar. Being gluten-free if you are gluten sensitive of celiac could also help improve your blood sugar.

Dianasolvei Rookie
29 minutes ago, Scott Adams said:

Hi @Dianasolvei, welcome to the forum!

If I were pre-diabetic I would go on a paleo diet. Everything I've read on this points to too many carbs & sugar. Being gluten-free if you are gluten sensitive of celiac could also help improve your blood sugar.

Hi Scott...thanks! Glad to find this forum. Yes...it looks like paleo is the way to go!

Posterboy Mentor
On 5/28/2021 at 12:25 PM, Dianasolvei said:

I have IBS as well as the DQ8 gene. I kept going gluten free because every time I eat something with it I get super sick. Dr. tested me, but I’d been off gluten for many months. She wanted to do a gluten challenge with me but I’m not going there! I don’t want to have to face recovery and lose months of health for it! Her current recommendation is just to completely avoid gluten as there is a suspicion of celiac. I had similar symptoms to you, and it ended up that my blood sugar was too high. Turned out to be the start of pre-diabetes. Ugh.

Diana,

Try taking some Chromium Poly.  It can help your elevated blood sugars. It did mine!

Chromium helps Insulin work better by a factor 100x to 1 is what I read once.....I was low in Chromium.....and doctor's don't study Vitamin(s) these days....because they don't believe they can help you.....

I dropped my A1C two whole points in 2 months going from Diabetic to prediabetic......and it has been well controlled since.

Also try taking you some Benfotiamine (a Fat Soluble B-1) found in the Diabetic section.

It can help any complications you might be having.

Benfotiamine has been used in the treatment of Diabetic Polyneuropathy.

Here is an article about it....

https://www.naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2018-11/thiamine-deficiency-and-diabetic-polyneuropathy

Thiamine works best when you take it with a highly absorbed Magnesium like Magnesium Citrate or Magnesium always with meals.

The Fat Soluble B-1s (Benfotiamine etc.) need a meal to help them be absorbed.

After taking Benfotiamine (again as a fat soluble B-1) I went from a diabetic with complications to an uncomplicated Pre-diabetic.

Thiamine can be good for Cholesterol as well.

Here is the reference work on the benefit of Thiamine for Cholesterol.

Entitled "Metabolic Benefits of Six-month Thiamine Supplementation in Patients With and Without Diabetes Mellitus Type 2"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3921172/

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Dianasolvei Rookie

Thanks! That’s an amazing accomplishment! Diet and nutrition play a huge role for sure. I will take a look at those supplements!🙂

Posterboy Mentor
On 5/27/2021 at 9:52 AM, alittle said:

Hello,

I’ve had IBS for as long as I can remember. I live overseas and my gut seems to to be getting worse since I moved here (coming up on 2 years from Canada). I had a colonoscopy back in my 20s (almost 40 now) but it didn’t show anything. I’m currently awaiting blood results but thought I’d ask you your thoughts while I wait.

Family history- mother has diverticulitis, brother has ulcerative colitis, cousin has celiac. 
 

Here are my symptoms:

- gut wrenching pain- like someone is wringing out my insides

- bloating and burping

- diarrhea 

- nausea

- bouts of what appears to be food poisoning (twice in the last 6 months)

- super iron deficient

- tired all the time

- HLA- DQ2.5 genetic variant 

- Zonulin level high 

- positive for anti- nuclear anti-bodies.

I’ve never really had a problem with gluten before or at least I don’t think I do. So, I’ve never even tried a gluten-free diet and now I’m not going to until I’ve had scopes which I’m pretty sure will be my next steps.

thoughts or advice?

Thanks in advance!

 

Alittle,

The High Zonulin levels might be a sign of either Low Stomach Acid or Low Niacin levels.

Here is the blog that links these connections.

https://alobar.livejournal.com/2930798.html#%2F2930798.html

I wrote about these connections in this Posterboy blog post....

It is kind of long....so you might want to read it more than once...the hard research is the 2nd part of the Blog post....

IN the ADDENDUM section....

You might also want to take some Thiamine and some Tryptophan.

Here is Posterboy blog post I wrote about Thiamine deficiency in Celiac disease.

Here is the research that shows how Tryptophan can help the Intestines of Celiac's heal faster...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201022/Tryptophan-found-in-turkeys-can-accelerate-intestinal-healing-in-people-with-celiac-disease.aspx

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      128,131
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Itsabit
    Newest Member
    Itsabit
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.1k
    • Total Posts
      70.6k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Keep us posted and let us know the results of the biopsy. Your case is atypical in a way in that you have this high DGP-IGA but normal TTG-IGA so knowing how it turns out will give us more data for similar situations that may be posted in the future. 
    • Skg414228
      Fair enough! I very easily could have misread somewhere. Celiac is very confusing lol but I should know in a little over a month what the final verdict is. Just thought chatting with people smarter than myself would get me in the right mindset. I just thought that DGP IGA was pretty high compared to some stuff I had seen and figured someone on here would be more willing to say it is more than likely celiac instead of my doctor who is trying to be less direct. She did finally say she believes it is celiac but wanted to confirm with the biopsy. I did figure it wouldn't hurt seeing what other people said too just because not all doctors are the best. I think mine is actually pretty good from what I have seen but I don't know what I don't know lol. Sorry lot of rambling here just trying to get every thought out. Thanks again!
    • Scott Adams
      Yes, these articles may be helpful:    
    • trents
      No, you don't necessarily need multiple testing methods to confirm celiac disease. There is an increasing trend for celiac diagnoses to be made on a single very high tTG-IGA test score. This started in the UK during the COVID pandemic when there was extreme stress on the healthcare system there and it is spreading to the US. A tTG-IGA score of somewhere between 5x and 10x normal is good enough by itself for some physicians to declare celiac disease. And mind you, that is the tTG-IGA, not the DGP-IGA. The tTG-IGA is the centerpiece of celiac antibody testing, the one test most commonly ordered and the one that physicians have the most confidence in. But in the US, many physicians still insist on a biopsy, even in the event of high tTG-IGA scores. Correct, the biopsy is considered "confirmation" of the blood antibody testing. But what is the need for confirmation of a testing methodology if the testing methodology is fool proof? As for the contribution of genetic testing for celiac disease, it cannot be used to diagnose celiac disease since 40% of the general population has the genetic potential to develop celiac disease while only 1% of the general population actually develops celiac disease. But it can be used to rule out celiac disease. That is, if you don't have the genes, you don't have celiac disease but you might have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • Skg414228
      Okay yeah that helps! To answer your last bit my understanding was that you need to have multiple tests to confirm celiac. Blood, biopsy, dna, and then I think symptoms is another one. Either way I think everything has to be confirmed with the biopsy because that is the gold standard for testing (Doctors words). You also answered another question I forgot to ask about which is does a high value push to a higher % on those scales. I truly appreciate your answers though and just like hearing what other people think. Digging into forums and google for similar stuff has been tough. So thank you again!
×
×
  • Create New...