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Can food intolerances cause a delayed reaction?

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Hi,

One day last week I ate eggs for breakfast. I seemed to tolerate them fine and had no noticeable reaction to them.

A few days later, I drank a can of Coca-Cola at about 4 pm. Then, the next morning I ate eggs again at about 11 am. This time I reacted to the eggs and felt bad for several hours.

Could this be a delayed reaction from the can of soda?

The fact that I was able to tolerate eggs the first time makes me think the soda is the problem. I know soda is terrible for me but I hadn't considered the possibility that it could be causing other food intolerances.

What do you think?

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13 hours ago, Aaron275 said:

Hi,

One day last week I ate eggs for breakfast. I seemed to tolerate them fine and had no noticeable reaction to them.

A few days later, I drank a can of Coca-Cola at about 4 pm. Then, the next morning I ate eggs again at about 11 am. This time I reacted to the eggs and felt bad for several hours.

Could this be a delayed reaction from the can of soda?

The fact that I was able to tolerate eggs the first time makes me think the soda is the problem. I know soda is terrible for me but I hadn't considered the possibility that it could be causing other food intolerances.

What do you think?

If your stomach/digestion is upset, anything you put in it can make it react.

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7 hours ago, GFinDC said:

If your stomach/digestion is upset, anything you put in it can make it react.

I know, but I'm asking if a reaction can appear to be from one food, but really it's from another food I ate several hours ago?

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Yes, I recently wrote an article about my experience with ALCAT food sensitivity testing, and I wrote questions to the Roger Deutsch, the founder of the company.

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Q: Two items that I was surprised to see in my "Moderate" reaction list were white and brown rice, which have been daily staples and are in many gluten-free foods that I eat. I've never noticed any issues when I eat rice. Likewise, apples are in my "Severe" list, but I don't eat them often. Can you explain why some foods that I seem to have severe or moderate reactions to don't have noticeable effects after I eat them?

A: Keep in mind that the white blood cell reactivity (change in number and size) the ALCAT Test identifies, is an inflammatory response. (see scientific dossier attached page 4) Inflammation is the contributing factor to the most common chronic health problems we experience in the US. We don’t always feel inflammation but it is happening whether we feel it or not. IF symptoms are noticed from sensitivities, they can be noticed ~2-3 hours after ingesting the offending food or the next day or even 4 days later. (unlike the allergy response symptoms which would be noticed minutes after ingesting the offender up to 2 hours later).

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Aaron275 Enthusiast
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Wow. So my food intolerances might be completely different to what I think they are, because the reaction doesn't always happen immediately?

This might explain a lot for me.

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I used to worry that I might have a problem with eggs which would be horrible. But I couldn't figure out why eggs that I used in baking were not a problem, but my scrambled eggs were. Turns out I was reacting to the black pepper I was putting on my scrambled eggs. And it wasn't an allergic reaction, just a normal side effect of eating black pepper.

I can only speak for myself, but every food reaction I've ever had has appeared within the first 12 hours of eating a food, normally within the first 8. But I don't have any food allergies and your digestion speed might vary.

But the best tool I've ever used for narrowing down what my problem foods might be was keeping a food/symptom diary. You don't even have to do it every day because just doing it for a couple weeks will help your brain learn to remember what you ate. And no matter how long it takes for the problem to appear, you have a record that you can refer to, or refer back to old instances of similar reactions.

Eggs in particular can be problematic in a number of different ways. Some people are allergic, others intolerant, and they could also be contaminated with salmonella that could cause varying degrees of food poisoning. Or, you could have a completely different issue such as problems with your gallbladder and the cholesterol in the eggs is causing a flair up. Or it isn't the egg at all and something you're eating with it, such as my black pepper, the oil or butter you're using to cook it, the pan in which it is being cooked, and so on.

Anyway, I would not be too quick to jump to any conclusions, but just continue to look for answers. It took me a couple years to figure out my black pepper thing simply because I had been overlooking the pepper entirely. Even if you don't figure it out this week, have hope that you'll eventually get the answers you seek ... as long as you keep looking.

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