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tTg-IgA and DGP-IgG negative, is it worth waiting for anti-Gliadin IgA/IgG?


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Hi! Male, 31.

Health issues: constipation, sluggish digestion in general, greasy stools, bloating, fatigue, brain fog, dry skin. Low thyroid hormones free t3/T4 with normal TSH.

I've seen numerous Drs, none has ordered a celiac test panel, so decided to test one myself. Have been on a heavy gluten diet for at least 4 months. 

The results so far are all normal and not suggestive of Celiac disease in the slightest:

Total IgA - 1.79 (range 0.63 — 4.84)

tTg-IgA <1.00 (range <10.00)

DGP-IgG 1.2 (range <10.0).

I also had blood drawn for anti-Gliadin IgA/IgG (not deamidated this time), the results should be available tomorrow.

I know the latter are old tests and now considered unreliable but I want to make sure I don't have Celiac and If I do - well, that would at least explain many of the symptoms. I want to see if I have autoimmunity, not NSGS.

All in all, do you think that with the results I have after eating lots of gluten for several months I can consider myself non-Celiac? Of course, I will consult a doctor if needed, but they seem to be more concerned with treating symptoms, not the cause.

Thanks!


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Sounds like you may not have celiac disease since the antibody tests so far don't indicate villi damage in the small bowel. But I would look at NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) if I were you. The antidote is the same. Total abstinence from gluten for life. The next step would be to commit to a gluten free diet and see if your symptoms improve.

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