Exercising days, weight gain days?

[Felipe]

Hello awesome internet people!

I was wondering if anyone else happen to experience the same thing... For years I have exercised 2-3 days of the week, nothing crazy, just cardio, pushups, crunches etc. About 6 months ago, I began to do it Mon-Fri.

The situation is that since I started this new routine, I began to gain weight, like 11lbs in almost 2 weeks... Then during the weekends (days off) I lose about 4lbs. After 5 months, I gained almost 26lbs! So I decided to go back to 3 days like before, and I lost over 32lbs very fast, like what in the world is happening here?? I have been doing OMAD Monday to Friday for almost 3 years now, and during the weekends I eat 3 meals, snacks and such. How is it possible that the days I exercise, while eating just once a day, I gain so much weight... And the days I don't have physical activity, eat probably more than I should, I lose weight!!?? Also, I did a month skipping OMAD (eating as I do during weekends pretty much), zero exercise activity, and I started dropping weight like if I was doing lipo every week..

Any ideas why this happens? 

Thank you and have a great day.

[Scott Adams]

I will admit that I'm not a fitness expert, but my understanding is that muscle mass is heavier than fat, so if you are converting fat into muscle, which is possible in your case, then it could account for the weight gain. Is your body getting leaner with all the fitness training? If so, I would not worry about the weight gain too much.

[knitty kitty]

@Felipe,

Are you gaining water weight on days you exercise?  If you push your thumb into your ankle, does the thumb indentation disappear immediately or does the thumb indentation stay for several seconds?

On the days you eat more are you losing water through frequent trips to the loo?

 

[Felipe]

55 minutes ago, Scott Adams said:

I will admit that I'm not a fitness expert, but my understanding is that muscle mass is heavier than fat, so if you are converting fat into muscle, which is possible in your case, then it could account for the weight gain. Is your body getting leaner with all the fitness training? If so, I would not worry about the weight gain too much.

This was mentioned by someone I know, but he could not explain the reason why the fast weight drop and/or gaining lbs... And I my body gains chest and oblique fat (the more I exercise).  Dr. did a few test and could not find anything strange (but we know how that goes many times..), and came to the conclusion that perhaps has to do with my diet style and ketosis created by it. But then again, he can't explain why keeping the routine I had will keep me balanced? or how fast my body is burning all those lbs... Another thing I mentioned to him and perhaps I should open another topic, is that lately when I am getting gluttened, I get this really bad cough and UTIs... I read about the UTI part, but have not found anything about the coughing part.

Thanks for getting back to me!  

[Felipe]

53 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

@Felipe,

Are you gaining water weight on days you exercise?  If you push your thumb into your ankle, does the thumb indentation disappear immediately or does the thumb indentation stay for several seconds?

On the days you eat more are you losing water through frequent trips to the loo?

 

This was one of the first things I thought about, or even uric acid, but water retention seems normal and yes, I did the thumb and glucose test and it is fine.

And the toilet biz is normal as any other day  I was also told that it perhaps was the supplements I take (glutamine, ashwagandha and MCT) but I stopped these for a few weeks and nothing changed, if anything I felt super lazy about doing anything :)) I am telling you, I could eat the most greasy food during the weekends and still lose weight... Nothing hurts or anything but definitely the clothes get "bigger". And apparently is not something common here either haha, oh well, I tried.  

Thanks for taking the time!

[knitty kitty]

@Felipe,

Oh!  I'm highly suspicious it's the Ashwagandha.  It can affect the thyroid and make it produce too much or too little hormones and speed up your metabolism.

I couldn't take Ashwagandha.  It's a nightshade.  I had started taking it for anxiety, but my thyroid frequently swung high and low, and I lost handfulls of hair.  

Here's some articles that explain better....

Symptoms of Thyrotoxicosis

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21741-thyrotoxicosis

And....

Thyrotoxicosis following the use of ashwagandha

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16355578/

And...doctors use Ashwagandha to bring UP thyroid hormones...

Efficacy and Safety of Ashwagandha Root Extract in Subclinical Hypothyroid Patients: A Double-Blind, Randomized Placebo-Controlled Trial

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28829155/

"Conclusion: Treatment with ashwagandha may be beneficial for normalizing thyroid indices in subclinical hypothyroid patients."

And...if you are interested in something better to take....tryptophan works better for me.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883941714001757

Don't take Tryptophan while taking glutamine.  Tryptophan and glutamine both increase serotonin.  If both are taken, too much serotonin can be produced resulting in Serotonin Syndrome which was a horrible experience for me.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17687-serotonin-syndrome

Thyrotoxicosis can also occur in thiamine deficiency.  I've experienced this, too.

Thyrotoxicosis Associated Wernicke’s Encephalopathy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2173917/

 

Definitely talk to your doctor about checking your thyroid and supplementing with a strong B Complex, in addition to tryptophan and high dose Thiamine.

Keep us posted on your progress!

[Felipe]

18 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

@Felipe,

Oh!  I'm highly suspicious it's the Ashwagandha.  It can affect the thyroid and make it produce too much or too little hormones and speed up your metabolism.

I couldn't take Ashwagandha.  It's a nightshade.  I had started taking it for anxiety, but my thyroid frequently swung high and low, and I lost handfulls of hair.  

Here's some articles that explain better....

Symptoms of Thyrotoxicosis

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21741-thyrotoxicosis

And....

Thyrotoxicosis following the use of ashwagandha

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16355578/

And...doctors use Ashwagandha to bring UP thyroid hormones...

Efficacy and Safety of Ashwagandha Root Extract in Subclinical Hypothyroid Patients: A Double-Blind, Randomized Placebo-Controlled Trial

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28829155/

"Conclusion: Treatment with ashwagandha may be beneficial for normalizing thyroid indices in subclinical hypothyroid patients."

And...if you are interested in something better to take....tryptophan works better for me.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0883941714001757

Don't take Tryptophan while taking glutamine.  Tryptophan and glutamine both increase serotonin.  If both are taken, too much serotonin can be produced resulting in Serotonin Syndrome which was a horrible experience for me.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17687-serotonin-syndrome

Thyrotoxicosis can also occur in thiamine deficiency.  I've experienced this, too.

Thyrotoxicosis Associated Wernicke’s Encephalopathy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2173917/

 

Definitely talk to your doctor about checking your thyroid and supplementing with a strong B Complex, in addition to tryptophan and high dose Thiamine.

Keep us posted on your progress!

Humm... Perhaps I did not give it enough time when I stopped taking it to see if this to blame.

Well, I am going to put it aside for a couple of months and see how it goes. This could be it, I watched a few videos just now about presenting similar symptoms n different people. Crazy stuff! I lost some hair when I started taking it, but then it regrew, I blamed covid and the new gluten diagnosis at the time... Perhaps is all connected. They have done thyroid exams before and apparently I have an over reactive thyroid but nothing "significant" (Dr.s words) ... Maybe the Ashwagandha is making it go crazy and since I don't take it during the weekends, this very well could be it!? I hope hahah

Thanks a lot! I will report back!

[C4Celiac]

On 5/6/2022 at 12:48 PM, Scott Adams said:

 so if you are converting fat into muscle, 

it's not possible to convert fat into muscle.  You can lose fat.. but you can't convert it to muscle.