Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

The glue foods theory, and Celiacs in Dogs


Anniehall

Recommended Posts

Anniehall Enthusiast

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lactose-intolerance-by-country

This is on lactose intolerance by country dated 2022. Fits into that theory about what people traditionally ate. The least lactose intolerant countries are in Europe.  When you think about how long Indians have been eating wheat it's about half the amount of time that Europeans have. So with the theory I have about traditional foods of different cultures being linked to the current intolerances of those cultures it still makes sense that Indians would have a higher rate of celiacs.  I was surprised that Indians haven't been eating grains for longer because wheat originated 75, 000 years ago near Iraq which isn't right next to India but still I'd think it would have made its way over sooner. I guess transportation was much more difficult for so long than what it has been in the last hundred years though.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



trents Grand Master
(edited)
14 hours ago, Anniehall said:

The neadranthal idea fits into thinking that what people's ancestors ate traditionally may effect their bodies ability to tolerate what they eat today. Wouldn't it he nice if celiacs blood testing was routine for everyone? If that was the case I would have been saved years of suffering. Also then people wouldn't act like it's just some dieting fad. Even I was in such denial for so many years. I had a room mate with celiacs but I just didn't think I could have it. Things had to get progressively worse for me to realize. The health problems I've had that were persistent before I figured it out make sense now, and all I can do is be thankful I figured it out at all.

Routine testing for celiac disease of children entering school is being done in Italy and perhaps other European countries. The problem with that is that you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. So testing school-aged children will still miss a lot of people. The other problem with it is that children's immune systems are immature so there may be false positives and false negatives.

Edited by trents
Anniehall Enthusiast

Yeah. They should just make it a standard blood work up at yearly check ups. That would maybe lead to some clues on why people develop it later on in life when they do as well. I honestly think I've had it since I was a kid though.  Just didn't know what was happening.  I had skin issues young. The kids would make fun if me because I already had acne all over my face at 7 years old.  

Scott Adams Grand Master
On 5/8/2022 at 6:29 AM, Anniehall said:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lactose-intolerance-by-country

This is on lactose intolerance by country dated 2022. Fits into that theory about what people traditionally ate. The least lactose intolerant countries are in Europe.  When you think about how long Indians have been eating wheat it's about half the amount of time that Europeans have. So with the theory I have about traditional foods of different cultures being linked to the current intolerances of those cultures it still makes sense that Indians would have a higher rate of celiacs.  I was surprised that Indians haven't been eating grains for longer because wheat originated 75, 000 years ago near Iraq which isn't right next to India but still I'd think it would have made its way over sooner. I guess transportation was much more difficult for so long than what it has been in the last hundred years though.

If you look at Native Americans they got wheat in their diets only in the last ~500 years or less...probably closer to the last 100-200 years. I've not seen many good studies done on celiac disease prevalence among Native Americans, but going from memory do recall one study that indicated that up to 6% of them could have celiac disease. More research needs to be done to find the actual rate.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,986
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Vickie Clancy
    Newest Member
    Vickie Clancy
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      Okay, it does make sense to continue the gluten challenge as long as you are already in the middle of it. But what will change if you rule it out? I mean, you have concluded that whatever label you want to give the condition, many of your symptoms improved when you went gluten free. Am I correct in that? According to how I understand your posting, the only symptom that hasn't responded to gluten free eating is the bone demineralization. Did I misunderstand? And if you do test positive, what will you do different than you are doing now? You have already been doing for years the main thing you should be doing and that is eating gluten free. Concerning how long you should stay on the gluten challenge, how many weeks are you into it already?
    • WildFlower1
      I mean that I will be re-taking the celiac blood test again while I am currently on the gluten challenge right now, but not sure how many weeks more to keep going, to ensure a false negative does not happen. Thank you.
    • WildFlower1
      Thank you for your help, I am currently in the middle of the gluten challenge. A bit over 6 weeks in. At 4 weeks I got the celiac blood tests and that is when they were negative. So to rule out the false negative, since I’m in the middle of the gluten challenge right now and will never do this again, I wanted to continue consuming gluten to the point to make sure the blood tests are not a false negative - which I did not receive a firm answer for how many weeks total.    My issue is, with these blood tests the doctors say “you are not celiac” and rule it out completely as a potential cause of my issues, when the symptoms scream of it. I want to rule out this 30 year mystery for my own health since I’m in the middle of it right now. Thank you!
    • trents
      I am a male and had developed osteopenia by age 50 which is when I finally got dx with celiac disease. I am sure I had it for at least 13 years before that because it was then I developed idiopathic elevated liver enzymes. I now have a little scoliosis and pronounced kyphosis (upper spine curvature).  All of your symptoms scream of celiac disease, even if the testing you have had done does not. You may be an atypical celiac, meaning the disease is not manifesting itself in your gut but is attacking other body systems. There is such a thing as sero negative celiac disease. But you still have not given me a satisfactory answer to my question of why do you need a differential dx between celiac disease and NCGS when either one would call for complete abstinence from gluten, which you have already been practicing except for short periods when you were undergoing a gluten challenge. Why do you want to put a toxic substance into your body for weeks when, even if it did produce a positive test result for celiac disease, neither you or your doctors would do anything different? Regardless of what doctors are recommending to you, it is your body it is affecting not theirs and they don't seem to have given you any good justification for starting another gluten challenge. Where you live, are doctors kings or something?
    • WildFlower1
      Sorry to put it clearly, at 15, infertility started (tried to word it nicely) meaning menstruation stopped. Which is in correlation to celiac I mean. Thank you. 
×
×
  • Create New...