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Cross-Contamination Is A Real Thing and is Slowly Killing Me

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Ness1987 Newbie
Ness1987
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Hi, I was interested in your topic as I've started to have reactions, proper 4 hour painful vomiting attacks, from pre mix Canadian Club.. but I can drink normal Canadian Club just fine. I tried to find info on the premix but it looks gluten free from what I can tell... I saw your post and thought maybe I'm more sensitive to cross contamination now.  The reaction is not as severe as when I have gluten, but is like a 'mild' version of what happens in a gluten attack. Is this similar to yourself when dealing with cross contamination?

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2 hours ago, Ness1987 said:

Hi, I was interested in your topic as I've started to have reactions, proper 4 hour painful vomiting attacks, from pre mix Canadian Club.. but I can drink normal Canadian Club just fine. I tried to find info on the premix but it looks gluten free from what I can tell... I saw your post and thought maybe I'm more sensitive to cross contamination now.  The reaction is not as severe as when I have gluten, but is like a 'mild' version of what happens in a gluten attack. Is this similar to yourself when dealing with cross contamination?

You could also be reacting to some other ingredient in the premix.

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3 hours ago, Ness1987 said:

Hi, I was interested in your topic as I've started to have reactions, proper 4 hour painful vomiting attacks, from pre mix Canadian Club.. but I can drink normal Canadian Club just fine. I tried to find info on the premix but it looks gluten free from what I can tell... I saw your post and thought maybe I'm more sensitive to cross contamination now.  The reaction is not as severe as when I have gluten, but is like a 'mild' version of what happens in a gluten attack. Is this similar to yourself when dealing with cross contamination?

For me, I don’t have a noticeable immediate reaction to minor cross-contamination - but I have long term symptoms that aren’t clearing - muscle pain, fatigue and leaky gut. I didn’t even know it was from cross contamination until I took a stool test that showed high antibody levels (showing occurring gluten consumption). For the pre mix Canadian Club - if you are curious - maybe try contacting the company to find out how it is manufactured? But it sounds like regardless of its gluten status, your body doesn’t like it! 

knitty kitty Grand Master
knitty kitty
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Canadian Club Whiskey is made from barley and rye.  

Barley and rye contain gluten just like wheat. 

trents Grand Master
trents
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5 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

Canadian Club Whiskey is made from barley and rye.  

Barley and rye contain gluten just like wheat. 

Yes, but then there is the hotly debated question of whether or not the distillation process eliminates the gluten. 

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knitty kitty
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18 minutes ago, trents said:

Yes, but then there is the hotly debated question of whether or not the distillation process eliminates the gluten. 

Yes, well, I don't want to get into that debate.  

Alcohol that is not derived from grain based sources include tequila and potato based vodka.

But any kind of alcohol consumption is going to affect the small intestine.

Can villous atrophy be induced by chronic alcohol consumption?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2769179/

"This case report raises the possibility that enteropathy and villous atrophy may be causally related to alcohol overconsumption."

Alcohol consumption has been shown to affect thiamine absorption and utilization.  We can't store thiamine longer than three weeks, but alcohol consumption can deplete our stores quickly.  

Gastrointestinal Beriberi and Wernicke's Encephalopathy Triggered by One Session of Heavy Drinking

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6739701/

"Thiamine deficiency remains underdiagnosed and should be considered in patients who develop unexplained gastroparesis or autonomic nervous failure of the digestive system, even in the nonalcoholic population."

And Thiamine is just one of the nutrients affected by villi damage.  Other vitamins and minerals can't be absorbed either.  Thiamine deficiency shows up first because it can't be stored and people with Celiac Disease already have malabsorption problems.  Why add to it by drinking alcohol and making malabsorption worse?

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For me, before I even heard of celiac - I found that any Canadian whiskey gave me heartburn.  I switched to vodka or rum and it has been much better. I also switched from beer to wine long ago.....

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