Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Stomach, liver pain...need your help!

Alexa7791

By Alexa7791
in Related Issues & Disorders

 Share

Recommended Posts

Alexa7791 Newbie
Alexa7791
Posted

Hi everyone !

I just subcribe but I read often. Years ago, I became intolerant to gluten and lactose after a stressful event. My doctor made me do a lab test but negative so she never refer for more.

After that, I quit all gluten and more and I healed. The thing is that when I feel better, I returned to it.

Seems that I always have those moment when I can eat it but after a while I cant.

I quit smoking 8 months ago and I am perimenopause also. But since I quit, my digestion is really mess up. And its been 3 times that I have some sort of a gastritis...like pain and spasms in stomach and also pain on right side. 

I have a few symptoms like I feel aleays tired since all the time...I fluctuate between constipation and diarrhea, gained weight, anxiety, allergies to pollen more than before, gas, and articulation pain...

I should ask my doctor for a new lab test and maybe a biopsie. But for now, how can I treat this stomach/liver pain. 

And does it.look more like intolerance or celiac to you?

Thanks 

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


trents Grand Master
trents
Posted
(edited)

Welcome to the forum, Alexa.

How do you know it's your liver that is causing the pain? Are you sure it's not your gallbladder or your pancreas or maybe a peptic ulcer. There's a lot of stuff in there crammed into a relatively small area and it can be hard to tell what's what when it comes to pain.

You need to know that for weeks leading up to testing for celiac disease you need to be eating regular amounts of gluten. The Mayo Clinic guidelines for a pretest gluten challenge for serum antibody testing are the daily consumption of two slices of wheat bread or the gluten equivalent for 6-8 weeks. The Mayo guidelines for a pretest gluten challenge for the endoscopy/biopsy is the same amount of gluten for two weeks. Eliminating or cutting back on gluten before testing will invalidate the results.

You say, "I have a few symptoms like I feel always tired since all the time...I fluctuate between constipation and diarrhea, gained weight, anxiety, allergies to pollen more than before, gas, and articulation pain..." Except possibly the pollen allergy, these are classic celiac disease symptoms or maybe, NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). 

Also, it sounds like you may need to get a current CBC and a CMP. "Liver pain" is not to be taken lightly. A CMP will check liver enzymes and other metabolic factors.

Edited by trents
Alexa7791 Newbie
Alexa7791
Posted
  • Author
7 minutes ago, trents said:

Welcome to the forum, Alexa.

How do you know it's your liver that is causing the pain? Are you sure it's not your gallbladder or your pancreas or maybe a peptic ulcer. There's a lot of stuff in there crammed into a relatively small area and it can be hard to tell what's what when it comes to pain.

You need to know that for weeks leading up to testing for celiac disease you need to be eating regular amounts of gluten. The Mayo Clinic guidelines for a pretest gluten challenge for serum antibody testing are the daily consumption of two slices of wheat bread or the gluten equivalent for 6-8 weeks. The Mayo guidelines for a pretest gluten challenge for the endoscopy/biopsy is the same amount of gluten for two weeks. Eliminating or cutting back on gluten before testing will invalidate the results.

You say, "I have a few symptoms like I feel always tired since all the time...I fluctuate between constipation and diarrhea, gained weight, anxiety, allergies to pollen more than before, gas, and articulation pain..." Except possibly the pollen allergy, these are classic celiac disease symptoms or maybe, NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). 

Also, it sounds like you may need to get a current CBC and a CMP. "Liver pain" is not to be taken lightly. A CMP will check liver enzymes and other metabolic factors.

Thanks for your response. 

I know I can be wrong concerning my liver but I have sort of a pain in the upper right. With nausea.

What is a CMP? 

I just hope everything to be okay and not to severe because I tend to be anxious around health.

But my digestion is definitely telling me that I consume something I shoulnt. Except when I feel better, I tend to tell myself that it cant be it.

trents Grand Master
trents
Posted
(edited)

CMP is "Complete Metabolic Panel". CBC is "Complete Blood Count" which checks counts for different kinds of blood cells like reds, whites and platelets. CMP will check liver and pancreas enzymes, kidney function, blood sugar, cholesterol, etc.

Edited by trents
Alexa7791 Newbie
Alexa7791
Posted
  • Author
Just now, trents said:

CMP is "Complete Metabolic Panel". CBC is "Complete Blood Count" which checks counts for different kinds of blood cells like reds, whites and platelets. CMP will check liver and pancreas enzymes, kidney function, blood sugar, etc.

Okay thank you!

But how can I feel better now. It feel like my stomach is twisting, cramping ... and if my enzymes are high, how do we heal frim that? I dont drink, dont smoke..

trents Grand Master
trents
Posted

About 18% of celiacs have elevated liver enzymes. I was one of those and it is what eventually led to my celiac disease diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free those enzymes were back into the normal range. If elevated liver enzymes go on too long, however, it can lead to irreversible liver disease. I'm not trying to scare you but before you can find healing and pain relief, you need to find out what's causing it. If you eliminate gluten now, your celiac testing will be invalidated. The first thing you need to do is get some medical tests run, including either celiac antibody testing or an endoscopy with biopsy. I have no advice for you other than that. Call the doctor's office and make an appointment and insist on getting tested for celiac disease - and don't go off gluten yet.

Alexa7791 Newbie
Alexa7791
Posted
  • Author
On 9/12/2022 at 9:13 PM, trents said:

About 18% of celiacs have elevated liver enzymes. I was one of those and it is what eventually led to my celiac disease diagnosis. Within three months of going gluten free those enzymes were back into the normal range. If elevated liver enzymes go on too long, however, it can lead to irreversible liver disease. I'm not trying to scare you but before you can find healing and pain relief, you need to find out what's causing it. If you eliminate gluten now, your celiac testing will be invalidated. The first thing you need to do is get some medical tests run, including either celiac antibody testing or an endoscopy with biopsy. I have no advice for you other than that. Call the doctor's office and make an appointment and insist on getting tested for celiac disease - and don't go off gluten yet.

Hi!

Yesterday, i went to the ER cause of the pain. They thought I might have a liver issue or stomach or pancraetist. Did ans ultrasound ans some bloodtest. My liver and pancreas are fine but my stomach is inflamed and irritated. They gave me some medicines for acidity and pain.

Today I still have pain and cramping, and also very bloated.

Can gluten cause some gastritis or stomach inflammation ? Or isnt that relate at all.

Thanks

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,943
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    Luz Kuehn
    Newest Member
    Luz Kuehn
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.5k
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • ognam
      Glutening symptom? oily stool

      By ognam · Posted

      Has anyone had Steatorrhea (oily/fatty poop) as a temporary glutening symptom or should I be concerned I've introduced chronic gluten somewhere (like in meds)? I haven't gotten Steatorrhea since before I went gluten free. However, I moved in the past few weeks and haven't been as careful - I've eaten at restauraunts with cross contamination but only experienced minor symptoms like headache. The past week, I ate only gluten free food at home except I went to Red Robin and got fries (told them gluten-free; allergy). The next day I had Steatorrhea and the day after that.   I know it's a symptom of malabsorption so I was wondering if it was the kind of thing that could be caused by one event or if it was due to a more chronic issue. Of course I will speak to a GI but I recently moved and need to find one.   Thank you for any info
    • plumbago
      Anyone else with very high HDL?

      By plumbago · Posted

      A relative has opened another door for me on this issue -- the possibility of menopause raising HDL. Most studies suggest that menopause decreases HDL-C, however, one study found that often it's increased. "Surprisingly, HDL cholesterol was higher (p < 0.001) in postmenopausal women by 11%. Further, the number of women who had low HDL cholesterol was higher in pre vs. postmenopausal women. The range of ages were 26–49 years for pre-menopausal and 51–74 years for postmenopausal women. "This interesting finding has also been observed by other investigators. It is possible that the observed increase in HDL-C in postmenopausal women could be due to a protective mechanism to counterbalance the deleterious effects of biomarkers associated with menopause. However, further studies are needed to confirm this theory. And to the point raised earlier about functionality: "...some patients with elevated HDL-C concentrations could remain at risk for coronary events if HDL is not functional and some authors have suggested that this could be the case for menopausal women." Postmenopausal Women Have Higher HDL and Decreased Incidence of Low HDL than Premenopausal Women with Metabolic Syndrome. By no means to I think this is definitive, rather food for thought.
    • ognam
      Increasing symptoms after going gluten free

      By ognam · Posted

      Yes, lots of delicious things have barley malt. It also doesn't include rye. And there are a number of grains commonly cross contaminated such as oats.   Additionally, wheat allergies are different from gluten allergies as wheat allergies are a reaction to a wheat protein. So something *could* contain wheat gluten without causing a wheat allergic response (though realistically,  I don't know how likely that is to occur)
    • trents
      Increasing symptoms after going gluten free

      By trents · Posted

      Although it is true that FDA regulations don't require gluten to be included in allergy info, it does require wheat and ingredients made from wheat to be listed. Of course, that doesn't preclude gluten from barley being found in a product.
    • ognam
      Increasing symptoms after going gluten free

      By ognam · Posted

      I had a lot of weird/random symptoms for a few months after going gluten free. But eventually they evened out and I felt SO MUCH BETTER. The person above wrote a very detailed message that looks helpful. I'd add don't forget to check for gluten in places like medicine. Advil liquigels, for example, have gluten. It's very frustrating trying to figure out if things are gluten free as us law doesn't require it to be declared. The only labeling rule is that if the product says gluten free, it must have less than 20ppm gluten.
×
×
  • Create New...