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CeCe22

By CeCe22
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Can you get gluten from a dog?  My nutritionist has been working with me with my gluten-free diet and she says I am doing great with my food selections but I keep a rash all the time except when sick. I have been gluten-free since July 2021. Rash is worse at some times than others.  We eat at home most of the time. Eat out very little. I just started thinking about my maltipoo. Her food did have gluten so today I spent time at pet store looking for a grain free/gluten free food and treats for her. She loves sitting with me and of course licking. I do try to keep her from doing that, however, she is so fast. Went to my dr two days ago. She says my case is so different from other patients. She thinks I have something else as well as DH. She did a lot of blood work and all my numbers are coming down. This is so frustrating. Just had the thought about my dog today. 

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4 hours ago, CeCe22 said:

Can you get gluten from a dog?  My nutritionist has been working with me with my gluten-free diet and she says I am doing great with my food selections but I keep a rash all the time except when sick. I have been gluten-free since July 2021. Rash is worse at some times than others.  We eat at home most of the time. Eat out very little. I just started thinking about my maltipoo. Her food did have gluten so today I spent time at pet store looking for a grain free/gluten free food and treats for her. She loves sitting with me and of course licking. I do try to keep her from doing that, however, she is so fast. Went to my dr two days ago. She says my case is so different from other patients. She thinks I have something else as well as DH. She did a lot of blood work and all my numbers are coming down. This is so frustrating. Just had the thought about my dog today. 

I don't know whether you can get gluten from dog food, but what you're describing is plausible. Are you consuming any excess iodine in your diet or from supplements? Iodine causes DH to flare. In the past, my DH has flared from too much iodine in my diet.

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I am not taking any supplements. I have cut back on iodine but maybe not enough. 

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knitty kitty
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Niacin B3 helps calm the outbreaks, too.  You may want to discuss with your doctor the benefits of supplementing with a B Complex, Vitamin C and minerals while you are healing.  

Avoid high iodine foods like dairy, crustaceans and seafood, and iodized salt and sea salt.  Use pink Himalayan salt instead.

I have two cats that I changed to grain free kibble.  I believe they even feel better.  I feel better not having to worry about them being contaminated with gluten from their food and all that grooming.  

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CeCe22,

Niacinamide (with Tetracycline) has been studied/shown to help DH symptom's.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30390734

It is best to take it with a B-Complex because if you are low in Niacin/Niacinamide you are also low in your other B-Vitamins as well.

Tryptophan and B6 is also important for Celiac's as well because it is important for us to Synthesize Niacin from from our foods.

See this artilce on it..... entitled "Abnormal Tryptophan Metabolism in Patients with Adult Celiac Disease, with Evidence for Deficiency of Vitamin B6"

https://dm5migu4zj3pb.cloudfront.net/manuscripts/104000/104975/cache/104975.1-20201218131406-covered-e0fd13ba177f913fd3156f593ead4cfd.pdf

Taking a B-Complex and Tryptophan allows you to get the B2 and B6 necessary to synthesize Niacin/Niacinamide in your body helping us control inflammation in our mucus membranes like our GI tract and are skin for example.

Trytophan has also been shown to be an important trigger for inflammation in many GI diseases like IBS etc.

See this research about it entitled "Tryptophan: ‘essential’ for the pathogenesis of irritable bowel syndrome?"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266036/

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

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I asked a couple of weeks ago as to whether my dog could be part of what was going on with me having so many DH flare ups. Well after two weeks with my dog,Sadie, being on gluten free food and treats I have been so much better.  Still a few itchy bumps but nothing like I was having. Hopefully this has been some of my problem!  

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LCAnacortes
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Be sure to read the labels of any grooming products. We were going to use a cat dry shampoo and saw that it contained wheat. That would be a no go. Good luck!

 

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7 hours ago, CeCe22 said:

I asked a couple of weeks ago as to whether my dog could be part of what was going on with me having so many DH flare ups. Well after two weeks with my dog,Sadie, being on gluten free food and treats I have been so much better.  Still a few itchy bumps but nothing like I was having. Hopefully this has been some of my problem!  

No many would think of this but that's a great catch. Well done. Hopefully, it's the source of your problem.

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On 10/15/2022 at 9:45 PM, CeCe22 said:

Can you get gluten from a dog?  My nutritionist has been working with me with my gluten-free diet and she says I am doing great with my food selections but I keep a rash all the time except when sick. I have been gluten-free since July 2021. Rash is worse at some times than others.  We eat at home most of the time. Eat out very little. I just started thinking about my maltipoo. Her food did have gluten so today I spent time at pet store looking for a grain free/gluten free food and treats for her. She loves sitting with me and of course licking. I do try to keep her from doing that, however, she is so fast. Went to my dr two days ago. She says my case is so different from other patients. She thinks I have something else as well as DH. She did a lot of blood work and all my numbers are coming down. This is so frustrating. Just had the thought about my dog today. 

After several months I am now doing so much better. Almost afraid to say it out loud!!!😂. I do think switching the food my dog was eating has definitely helped. I no longer have the rash all the time. I have also been eating at home or when we go somewhere I take my own dinner. It sure has been hard with the holiday events!  But would rather do without than have a terrible flare up. I have been trying to be gluten free now for a year and five months so maybe that is part of the reason for not as many outbreaks. I just want to tell anyone just beginning this journey with DH it takes a while and can really be frustrating and depressing. Hang in and it will get easier and better!  Also get you a good dermatologist and nutritionist. Merry Christmas to everyone. 

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I just checked the ingredients of my cats dry food and there are several gluten products in it.  We have a 20# bag or something so I was just getting a handful out of it.  I'm going to stop doing that - or wash my hands thoroughly right after.  Probably explains why I still have some DH type flare ups too. 

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