Nausea and fatigue almost all day

[itarachiu]

@knitty kitty

That product is not for sale here, but I can order it from Amazon. It will take probably 2 3 weeks to get it. For the moment I will use this one from Solgar.

[itarachiu]

And another update...

I do mostly fine, I introduced again normal potato(night shades familly) baked under pressure to neutralize lectins, no issues. 2 days ago I got a little bit of nausea, I suspect my coconut milk was sour/spoiled a little and I drink like 1/4 of the bottle, it wasn't the usual nausea that I had it for years, it was that type of nausea when you eat something that was spoiled. I give it a little to my mother as well and she almost vomited so... other than that I'm getting better and better. I got 1kg of weight back, I start to had dreams almost every night which is an indication that my sleep has improved, I still wake up at exactly 3 am and according to my research is because the histamine has to be flushed, however i do fall asleep much faster.

Also I ordered vitamin D3, I found one company that has clean ingredients and they are low histamine, I hope the local pharmacy can get that. Despite the fact is november here in Romania we got right now 10 degrees outside which is still good but 1 week ago we got even 20 degrees so winter is coming and vitamin D is important for histamine journey recovery. I will not get ouside that often if will starts to snow or because it is too cold.

Also the reason why I get cold feets and hands is related to histamine, when I eat something that my body does not like I feel cold for 24-36h, after that my body temperature starts to get normal. It could be an iron deficiency as well but for the moment I connected the dots with the histamine problem.

B1, B6, B12 C, Copper, Zinc, these are very important for histamine recovery, some of them I will take suppliemnts, some of them through the diet, I don't plan to take them for years but for the moment at the beginning of the journey they will help.

What I have I think... I think it's histamine intolerance and not MCAS, and 100% not histamine allergy. Histamine intolerance can be reversed or at least you get to the point were you keep it under control even without medication. I may take in consideration to take a DAO treatment but I will try to fight this without drugs for 6 months, 1 years see how it goes. My problem with histamine I think is because I was undiagnosticated for so long and it's a combianation of leaky gut and deficiencies.

For leaky gut bone broth is a no no for histamine intolerance, however meat stock can work, I do have where to buy organic and fresh chicken and ducks. Here in Romania the chicken that you find it in stores is poison. They put steroids in them and they inject water in the flesh to make it look bigger and nicer and well... for profit. I bet this is happening specially when it comes to chicken meat all around the world.

Almost forgot, despite the fact that I'm very skinny for the moment, I have soo much strength in my muscles, I can't even remember last time when I was so strong so something positive did happen

Here is a list with my safe foods: salt, sweet potatoes, carrots, zucchini, parsley root, parsley leaf, rice(100 grams), pistachio(10-15/day), beetroot, coconut milk, blueberries(10-15/day), pomegranate, thyme, oats(1/4 cup/day), regular potatoes(nightshades, pink skin, yellow flesh), parsnip, turmeric, cucumber.

Here is a list with low histamine foods that gave me some stomach issues but no nausea: broccoli, apple(well they can ferment), honey(1 tbsp I think I can tolerate), grapes(20)

Here is a list of foods that made me lose my consciousness and have uncontrolable bowel movment: grapes juice(big quantity, well they can ferment), spinach(big quantity, oxalates?!), cashew(maybe 15 pieces). These foods are high in histamine btw, very high in fact. Fermented foods are a no no for histamine issues.

EDIT: @knitty kitty you said B1 in some people can make them feel sick, well not for me, 1 per day is working fine.

EDIT2: Yes I did research about testing for histamine intolerance, there is no accurate test for this, you have to be your own doctor.

[itarachiu]

So! 2 weeks update(almost). I'm doing great, in fact better than never. I put back 1 kg, I'm still skinny, I never felt nausea with 1 exception when I did swallowed 1 rancid pistachio. Histamine intolerance diet is very strictly just like gluten, if you eat mold even a tiny amount you get a reaction.

The answer to my post is, histamine intolerance was the cause for why I felt nausea all the time even after a gluten free diet, 5 years I guess since I was diagnosticated. After I got COVID a few months ago and healed my health was just as when I was undiagnosticated with celiac disease.

I included in my diet a little bit of cheese, cream cheese, very carefully with ingredients, it has to be pasteurized and without anything else, sugars, etc... I was surprised to see that I can tolerate it because I forgot when was the last time when I eat cheese or milk related products. Cassein which is found in milk is a problem for celiacs. Some recommended that kefir or bacteria from milk helps with leaky gut but I have my personal theory... cow milk is designed for baby cow, end of story. The reason why I included in my diet is because I want to put some fat back.

I tried again honey, I can tolerate it in small amounts, even refined sugar, but it has to be in small amounts otherwise I get stomach cramps/aches but no nausea!. Also I included Vitamin D3 suppliment, winter is coming, no more sun here.

It's been almost 1 month on low histamine diet and I can't believe how much I recovered, I feel better than never... like when I was a child 20 years ago and not having any health issues, this is how better I feel, I just can't believe it. Thank god I don't have MCAS which is a permanent version of histamine intolerance where you require treatment and you have more triggers. In my case is just intolerance, probably because of a leaky gut or vitamins deficiencies. I will buy still consider to buy a DAO suppliment/enzyme, just to have it for special occasions like restaurants, familly events but I want to fight this with no treatments. All I have to do is to don't abuse histamine foods and let my gut to heal for 1-2-3 years and then I can be normal again(without gluten of course) and without abusing again my old diet which was 90% high histamine foods. Now I know... The truth is that my old diet was actually mostly healthy but in my case was poison.

Almost forgot, I tried some glucose bar, made only from corn starch syrup, no issues, I can't believe I can tolerate also corn. I tried corn after 1 month of gluten free diet 5 years ago and gave me the same reaction as gluten.

EDIT: I never felt IBS in my last 2 weeks, NEVER, IBS is gone... GONE! I had IBS my entire life, even before I start to have health issues from gluten 20 years ago, IBS was pretty much the first symptom which was always present on daily basis. Now is gone and I can't believe it.

[trents]

Some of our food intolerances/sensitivities can disappear after we get good healing of the gut. I am so glad to hear you are doing so much better. You have been great about keeping us updated.

Edited November 30, 2022 by trents

[itarachiu]

15 minutes ago, trents said:

Some of our food intolerances/sensitivities can disappear after we get good healing of the gut. I am so glad to hear you are doing so much better. You have been great about keeping us updated.

Yep, well after gluten free diet I cut diary products just because cow milk is for baby cows and corn I cut it because it was making me feel sick and because just like gluten it has a hard shell so personally I think is poison. Even after I found out that I can tolerate it I will still stay away from corn as much as I can but is good to know that in some processed foods if it is as ingredient I can be fine with it.

EDIT: Also I can't believe how sharp is my mind, is so clear. I had brain fog and dizziness in my last 15 years to the point that became what 'normal' is for me.

EDIT2: I took this morning my blood sugar level on empty stomach with that electronic device from my father which has diabetes type 2, I have 86 blood sugar level which is too normal.

[Rogol72]

2 hours ago, itarachiu said:

So! 2 weeks update(almost). I'm doing great, in fact better than never. I put back 1 kg, I'm still skinny, I never felt nausea with 1 exception when I did swallowed 1 rancid pistachio. Histamine intolerance diet is very strictly just like gluten, if you eat mold even a tiny amount you get a reaction.

The answer to my post is, histamine intolerance was the cause for why I felt nausea all the time even after a gluten free diet, 5 years I guess since I was diagnosticated. After I got COVID a few months ago and healed my health was just as when I was undiagnosticated with celiac disease.

@itarachiu, I'm really happy that you are doing so well. I have histamine intolerance like you, it's much improved though. If you don't mind, what foods are you eating every day on the low histamine diet? It's restrictive and difficult to manage with a gluten-free diet!

I have discovered that I had a subclinical iron deficiency which was missed on my bloods last year. When I corrected that an got my iron levels up to the middle of the reference range, my histamine intolerance improved a lot. I've read that Iron along with other minerals regulates histamine release from MAST cells.

Objective Nutrients who make Thiamax are working on setting up an EU distribution center, so you know for future reference.

[itarachiu]

@Rogol72

Here is my list of foods

• Salt(non iodized)
• Sweet potato
• Carrot
• Zucchini
• Parsley(root)
• Parsley(leaf)
• Rice(white)
• Beetroot
• Coconut milk
• Coconut oil
• Blueberries
• Pomegranate
• Thyme
• Oats
• Parsnip
• Turmeric
• Cucumber
• Pink potato(yellow flesh)
• Kaki/persimmon/god fruit
• Celery
• Quail egg's
• Quince
• Squash
• Pumpkin seeds
• Olive oil
• Linden tea
• Chia Seeds
• Okra
• Mint tea
• Cheese
• Rice(brown)
• Figs(fresh)

Also!

• I tried fresh meat, fish, caught by my father and I did have reaction after it was put in refrigerator for 24h. Next time I will try it when is fresh fresh but the cold weather has arrived so no more fishing until summer. I will try farm raised meat as fresh as possible if I will find available.
• I also tried cheese and cheese cream. Cheese can be a problem for celiacs. Read labels, avoid citric acid, flavors and everything that you can't read, only pasteurized milk, salt, and added bacteria(some companies put bacteria) for better digestion.
• Corn only the syrup made from corn starch, I didn't tried corn itself but I guess I can tolerate it. Corn can be a problem for celiacs.
• Also chicken eggs I did have a reaction, quail eggs I do fine. I guess chicken egg only the whites are the problem but I will avoid them for the moment.
• Nightshades, I tried white potato and I do fine if I take a pause of 2-3 days, if I eat daily I get reaction, so small amounts. The other nightshades are foods high in histamine that you should avoid like pepper, tomato and eggplant.
• Teas, Chamomile tea I get a reaction despite the fact is just a tea... this type of tea is not listed in the histamine foods list but I tried by myself and it didn't worked. I found also other people complain about this tea on reddit histamine subreddit.
• Refined sugars and honey are low in histamine but they cause inflamation and you will feel some sort of reaction. I do fine if small amounts.
• Pistachios, make sure you don't swallow them rancid(mold) because it will cause a reaction.
• Apples and broccoli are low histamine foods but for some reason I did get stomach cramps from them but no nausea so I will avoid them for the moment. The apples you don't know how old there were so that could be a reason and broccoli, well you never know what pesticides have on them.

In my case a reaction is 30 - 60 minutes, maybe 2h, and it does last between 2-4 hours and in some cases the entire day. I feel nausea this is #1, brain fog, stomach pain/aches, I can't think, bloating in some cases. I guess depends on the amount and the type of food. After 1 month almost of low histamine diet I can feel when I have a reaction that it last less and is not as disturbing as before, so some healing did happened in the gut or simply my body does not has as much histamine stored as before.

For the moment I'm still at the low histamine foods marked with 0, the lowest ones and when I finish this list I will try the foods marked with 1. I still have a few of them, some of them are not available in my country...

 

[Rogol72]

This site has some good information about the low histamine diet. The lady who runs it seems to have been on a really difficult journey ... https://lowhistamineeats.com/

[itarachiu]

1 hour ago, Rogol72 said:

This site has some good information about the low histamine diet. The lady who runs it seems to have been on a really difficult journey ... https://lowhistamineeats.com/

Thank you I will check it out.

There are many like this if you google them. Reddit is a good source as well, you google a problem and you include the keywords "histamine reddit" at the end of the search query.

[itarachiu]

And... another update!

Mostly good news. I finally achieved what I was looking for, no nausea what so ever! I can't believe it, I was thinking that I will have nausea all the time for the rest of my life. I still got 2 reaction during the last update, one time because I did eat 1/4 of a honey jar, I just couldn't stop... well people that have histamine intolerance they should avoid anything that spikes blood sugar, refined sugar, corn starch even honey. As I mentioned I can tolerate a few tsp per day of honey or refined sugar or even corn starch which I believe is the worse however if I cross the line I get cramps in my upper stomach but no IBS or brain fog anymore like I use to have before finding out I have histamine intolerance. Second time if I cross the line with cheese, I didn't tried milk because I don't like the taste so I did tried milk related products cheese and cream cheese. I can tolerate milk or milk related products but again if I cross the line which I did tried to eat more than usual and I get nausea and IBS. I also tried just a little bit of pork liver and I think I'm fine. Anyway there is no surprise(for me at least) that what causes blood sugar to spike foods and milk related foods I don't get well with them, well... I have celiac disease, my gut has not healed even after 5 years of gluten free diet.

Another good news is that I think I don't have MCAS which is the next level of histamine intolerance. I still do research and try to learn but there is so much confusion however I don't have symtomps for MCAS. Most people with MCAS can't breath mold, they do have allergies to all kind of smells, they do get instant skin rashes on face and body parts which I don't have and I don't have any of those which let me to believe that I have only histamine intolerance which means I can't properly digest the foods with histamine and my bucket gets full(sort of speak) and when it gets full I experience symtomps like nausea and IBS and brain fog(in my case), others have different symtomps. Now because I keep a low histamine diet my bucket is not full anymore and I can tolerate foods that I coulnd't 1-2 months ago however the problem is the DAO enzyme supply is lower and in order to have the proper level of DAO enzyme I have to heal the gut which means I have to eat not inflamatory foods for god knowns... 6 months, 1 year, 3 years... I don't know but I know now what I have to do and what foods to eat. Another reasons could be, genetics, SIBO... well in my case I think is because I was misdiagnosed for celiac disease for a decade and I have leaky gut since then.

What I also learned that grilling the food raises the histamine and I get instant reaction and if I boil the same food I don't anything. I recovered half of my weight loss during my diet elimineation with low FODMAP which didn't worked. I don't focus anymore on foods that I can't eat and I focus on foods that I can eat and foods that I never eat before, I discovered new foods that taste so good.

Magnesium Citrate from Solgar was added as a suppliment, I take it with Vitamin D3 5000 UI, I plan to add Iron and B6 as well because they help to flush histamine from the body.

EDIT: I still wake up 1-2 times during my sleep but I fall asleep almost instant after I go to bathroom, I almost reached 7 hours of sleep per night so my nervous system is working better.

[Rogol72]

1 hour ago, itarachiu said:

And... another update!

Mostly good news. I finally achieved what I was looking for, no nausea what so ever! I can't believe it, I was thinking that I will have nausea all the time for the rest of my life. I still got 2 reaction during the last update, one time because I did eat 1/4 of a honey jar, I just couldn't stop... well people that have histamine intolerance they should avoid anything that spikes blood sugar, refined sugar, corn starch even honey. As I mentioned I can tolerate a few tsp per day of honey or refined sugar or even corn starch which I believe is the worse however if I cross the line I get cramps in my upper stomach but no IBS or brain fog anymore like I use to have before finding out I have histamine intolerance. Second time if I cross the line with cheese, I didn't tried milk because I don't like the taste so I did tried milk related products cheese and cream cheese. I can tolerate milk or milk related products but again if I cross the line which I did tried to eat more than usual and I get nausea and IBS. I also tried just a little bit of pork liver and I think I'm fine. Anyway there is no surprise(for me at least) that what causes blood sugar to spike foods and milk related foods I don't get well with them, well... I have celiac disease, my gut has not healed even after 5 years of gluten free diet.

Another good news is that I think I don't have MCAS which is the next level of histamine intolerance. I still do research and try to learn but there is so much confusion however I don't have symtomps for MCAS. Most people with MCAS can't breath mold, they do have allergies to all kind of smells, they do get instant skin rashes on face and body parts which I don't have and I don't have any of those which let me to believe that I have only histamine intolerance which means I can't properly digest the foods with histamine and my bucket gets full(sort of speak) and when it gets full I experience symtomps like nausea and IBS and brain fog(in my case), others have different symtomps. Now because I keep a low histamine diet my bucket is not full anymore and I can tolerate foods that I coulnd't 1-2 months ago however the problem is the DAO enzyme supply is lower and in order to have the proper level of DAO enzyme I have to heal the gut which means I have to eat not inflamatory foods for god knowns... 6 months, 1 year, 3 years... I don't know but I know now what I have to do and what foods to eat. Another reasons could be, genetics, SIBO... well in my case I think is because I was misdiagnosed for celiac disease for a decade and I have leaky gut since then.

What I also learned that grilling the food raises the histamine and I get instant reaction and if I boil the same food I don't anything. I recovered half of my weight loss during my diet elimineation with low FODMAP which didn't worked. I don't focus anymore on foods that I can't eat and I focus on foods that I can eat and foods that I never eat before, I discovered new foods that taste so good.

Magnesium Citrate from Solgar was added as a suppliment, I take it with Vitamin D3 5000 UI, I plan to add Iron and B6 as well because they help to flush histamine from the body.

EDIT: I still wake up 1-2 times during my sleep but I fall asleep almost instant after I go to bathroom, I almost reached 7 hours of sleep per night so my nervous system is working better.

@itarachiu,

Good news that you are doing so well! Adding a low dose Iron Bisglycinate supplement (with the approval of my GP) has made a big difference to my histamine intolerance. Iron Bisglycinate is easy on the stomach. Regular black tea which is fermented causes a noticeable histamine increase when I consume it. 

[itarachiu]

2 hours ago, Rogol72 said:

Good news that you are doing so well! Adding a low dose Iron Bisglycinate supplement (with the approval of my GP) has made a big difference to my histamine intolerance. Iron Bisglycinate is easy on the stomach. Regular black tea which is fermented causes a noticeable histamine increase when I consume it.

Black or green tea I think they are high in histamine due to caffeine content I believe... Same for regular coffee. I tried roasted instant coffee and I got small reaction, brain fog, sweating, stomach cramps and a little bit of nausea which lasted for about 2 hours so I will keep avoid this for 3-6 months.

I will take Iron and B6 as well, they are very important for DAO production but for the moment I just added magnesium and I will see how it goes for 1-2 weeks, I already take 4 suppliments, I never took so much drugs in my life so I'm a little bit scared of them.

[itarachiu]

Well here is another update! It's the Christmas day so Merry Christmas everybody!

So I have only good news!

Finally my health is really getting better and I'm again functional, in fact more functional than never, there are almost 2 month since on low histamine diet. Poop talk again! My bowel movments never been so normal in my entire life, I just can't explain how painless they are, I remember since I was a kid I was constipated, it's just how I was, probably I was born with this gluten intolerance gene and after about 2 decades turned into this auto immune disease... Luck? My parents fault because they knew I was constipated all the time? Society because they do genetic modification with foods? My fault because I was literally eating the worse things that you can imagine... I don't know... and right now I realised that even on a gluten free diet I was still in pain with the bowel movments, well not anymore, it was the lack of fiber. After the gluten free diet I said I will never eat any grain again no matter if it has gluten or not, no more grains, so I did this... well buckwheat is not really a grain but whatever... I introduced oats in my diet with the low histamine diet and no more problems with my bowel movments. I never eat oats in my life they are actually very tasty and they are full of vitamins and nutrients, I was looking specifically for something high in iron. My hands and feets are not cold anymore and they do feel almost like a normal person. What I also find intersting for the first few days of eating oats in my entire life I had some gassy flatulence, then my body got used too and I can eat 250g a day without gassy flatulence... makes sense because if I never eat oats in my entire life I didn't had the bacteria to properly digest this food and after a few days no more issues... well I will take this as a good sign because that means if is true the bacteria from oats remain in my gut, they like that area. Now I will eat things to keep the bacteria happy too, anything with fiber does not matter how it taste, I will eat these foods to keep these bugs happy. Seems if they are happy, I do feel happy too. Until now everything I eat was to make myself happy, well now I will think to these bugs too.

Some problems still persists, I do feel dizzy when I walk on street, more when is night and I'm a little bit tiered and less when is day and I'm more fresh. This can be a B12, vitamin D as well maybe? I do suppliment both maybe it needs a few months more to get better in this department.

That feel of nausea that I was complain since months, it almost... ALMOST dissapeared completly. I don't get it after I eat something anymore but I do get it before and after I have a bowel movment, is getting better anyway but is still there. This is was people are calling IBS, I was living with the ideea that IBS is related only to pains but IBS can cause nausea as well.

Also ginger is amazing too! It's amazing for histamine and it's amazing if you get nausea. Now I eat almost everything with ginger, it also taste so good!

So overall my gut health improved, is not healed, but I'm doing better, I can feel that with my mind, I can feel while digiesting the food there is no more pain or discomfort, even my close friends they are telling me, that I'm glowing, my skin is so shiny and my face is looking better.

I think this histamine problem that I have it is as I mentioned because of some deficienies, my gut was never healed even with a gluten free diet but I'm feeling like I'm on the right track.

EDIT: I tried also foods with histamine in small amounts and seems they are fine now, 2 months ago were causing me instant feel of nausea. I did start to eat liver because they are rich in iron, is not farm raised but seems my gut is happy even with meat that is not 100% clean/organic.

[itarachiu]

Almost 1 month update, I'm doing almost great. No more nausea except from time to time. I'm doing great with histamine levels, I can now eat histamine foods, didn't tried large amounts but is fine with small amounts. My nervous system is fine, I do sleep now 7-8 hours without waking up.

However! I have SIBO now, I did start to eat with the histamine diet more and more carbs, honey and stuffs that feeds the bad bacteria and I can feel them in my small intestine how they produce gas 30 seconds later after I swallow food. I cut out the rice which are carbs 10 days ago, I was eating 2-300 maybe 400g of rice per day and seems they start to go away. I did research about SIBO topic and it can take up to 6 weeks to get rid of them. Syptomps... gas that do not pass it makes me bloated, gives me a little bit of nausea, stomach cramps, I feel very full after eating a small meal. Cause? Well... damage from celiac disease probably. Also this can be also the cause for my issue with histamine.

So right now I'm focusing more to manage SIBO, almost 0 carbs and I prepare my food with a lot of water to pass very fast so it will not stay too much time in the small intestine to feed the bad bacteria, I also drink water before and after meals. Right now it's my first time in my life when I don't eat any grain, maybe... maybe I will heal the intestine once for good. I increased the amount of fiber 3x times more than before to keep my hunger away. It's a little bit difficult without any carb to keep the hunger away.

I don't feel the cold anymore, my anemia issue is under control, I don't feel so dizzy when I walk on street anymore and no more brain fog! 0 brain fog!

[trents]

Thanks for the update. To help with the hunger, try increasing your fat intake. Fat has staying power. It has a lot of calories and is burned more slowly than starches and sugars. Sounds like you are moving toward a ketogenic style diet.

[itarachiu]

Yes, well I did eat some organic meat and I didn't have any problem. A few days ago I tried some liver which was not organic, bought it from store and my gut didn't liked it. Chicken eggs I can get organic but maybe next month when they start to lay eggs. Quails eggs I do fine with them but they are not as satisfying as chicken eggs.

So right now, 0 sugar, 0 carbs, 0 grains for 6 weeks, I already seen improvements after 1 week in my digestion and my mental clarity. Probably because of deficiencies my gut still suffers so I don't expect in 6 weeks to be brand new but at least to get my symtomps to minimum and to start to rebuild then. I was planning to take iron supplements too but that feeds the bad bacteria as well so I will have to wait a little bit.

[Beverage]

On 10/17/2022 at 10:19 AM, knitty kitty said:

Great!  If at all possible, try a form of thiamine called Benfotiamine or Thiamax.

https://www.objectivenutrients.com/products/thiamax/

Keep us posted on your progress!

 

@knitty kittywhat dose thiamine do you take daily? Thx.

@knitty kittywhat dose thiamine do you take daily? Thx.

[Beverage]

@knitty kittywhat dose thiamine do you take daily? Thx.

[Beverage]

@knitty kittyI'm a big fan of benfotiamine.  How much do you take daily?  Thanks.

[knitty kitty]

@Beverage,

Our bodies can absorb about 300 mg of Thiamine in about three hours, so I try to take my Thiamine with meals or a snack.  

I take higher doses earlier in the day.  Thiamine close to bedtime can make sleep elusive as I've so much energy and mental acuity.  

Sometimes in the morning, I will take more Allithiamine (200 mg) and less Benfotiamine (100 mg) and at lunch or dinner I take Benfotiamine 200 mgs and Allithiamine 100 mgs. I will throw in Thiamine Hydrochloride (100 mg) with a snack or a meal.  

It's really what works for you.  Increase your doses slowly.  If you start feeling yucky like the flu, back off the dose a bit for a few days.  This is the "thiamine paradox" which occurs as your body adjusts to having a constant supply of thiamine and the body starts functioning properly.  Sort of like a car backfiring if it hasn't been cranked for a bit.  Increase dose again slowly as long as you're seeing benefits.  Continue taking Thiamine for several months.  Improvements continue to show up, especially in brain function.

I have Type Two Diabetes.  Diabetics (both type one and two) tend to lose more Thiamine through kidney excretion than non-diabetics, so I like to keep my Thiamine doses a bit higher and spread out throughout the day.  

Thiamine Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide is the form of thiamine in Allithiamine and Thiamax and Benfotiamine.  Benfotiamine and Thiamine HCl need a red blood cell to get across the blood brain barrier.  The other forms can cross the blood brain barrier by themselves.  

Magnesium is needed with Thiamine to make certain enzymes, so supplementing magnesium is important.  I take Magnesium Glycinate, but magnesium citrate is okay, too.  Just be aware that too much magnesium can cause really soft stools (so don't do high dose magnesium 😉).

[Beverage]

7 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

 

 

Excellent info. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I'm taking 300mg benfotiamine, but since I had covid early last year, I've found a little asthma returning. I wasn't sure if I should increase or not.  This really helps.  And I'm going to research about that form needing the red blood cell to get across ... I have Thalassemia Minor, a genetic anemia and my red blood cells are small and little hemoglobin.  I might try the other forms.  Thanks again!

[knitty kitty]

4 minutes ago, Beverage said:

Excellent info. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. I'm taking 300mg benfotiamine, but since I had covid early last year, I've found a little asthma returning. I wasn't sure if I should increase or not.  This really helps.  And I'm going to research about that form needing the red blood cell to get across ... I have Thalassemia Minor, a genetic anemia and my red blood cells are small and little hemoglobin.  I might try the other forms.  Thanks again!

Allithiamine and Thiamax can get across the blood brain barrier without help.  

Do try to get your Thiamine up to 500 mg at a minimum.  Amazing things happen with higher doses.  

I read an article the other day that found the SPIKE of Covid actually binds to the Thiamine Transporters blocking Thiamine from entering cells, and causing a functional thiamine deficiency.  As the Covid Vaccine is based on producing antibodies that attack the SPIKE, the Covid Vaccine may be affecting the Thiamine Transporters.  Without Thiamine, mitochondria inside cells cannot function leading to mitochondrial dysfunction.  This could be the cause of Long Covid symptoms.  

Keep us posted on your progress!

[Rogol72]

On 1/19/2023 at 8:19 PM, itarachiu said:

Yes, well I did eat some organic meat and I didn't have any problem. A few days ago I tried some liver which was not organic, bought it from store and my gut didn't liked it. Chicken eggs I can get organic but maybe next month when they start to lay eggs. Quails eggs I do fine with them but they are not as satisfying as chicken eggs.

So right now, 0 sugar, 0 carbs, 0 grains for 6 weeks, I already seen improvements after 1 week in my digestion and my mental clarity. Probably because of deficiencies my gut still suffers so I don't expect in 6 weeks to be brand new but at least to get my symtomps to minimum and to start to rebuild then. I was planning to take iron supplements too but that feeds the bad bacteria as well so I will have to wait a little bit.

How are you energy levels on zero carbs?

[itarachiu]

On 1/27/2023 at 5:28 PM, Rogol72 said:

How are you energy levels on zero carbs?

VERY BAD. You can really feel that you have less energy and in the first days I had to put under my tongue a little bit of refined sugar 2-3 times a day because I was very dizzy. I also experienced night sweats in the first 2 days. I still feel after around 10 days of 0 carbs the effect, carbs really give you energy. I also lost 1 kg in weight.

[knitty kitty]

@itarachiu,

Have you increased your healthy fats?  Avocado oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil?   Cod liver oil?  Fatty fish like salmon? 

I take flaxseed oil supplements and evening primrose oil to get the healthy omega threes and omega sixes.  

Including healthy fats gives the body an alternative fuel to burn instead of carbohydrates.  You have to include more healthy fats on the AIP diet so your body will have enough fat from your food or supplements to burn.  If not enough fats are in your diet,  your body reverts to burning muscle and stored body fat.

Hope this helps!