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Connection Between Grapes And Gluten?

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White wine and beer trigger migraines in me just as quickly as red wine. So, for me I don't think it's the sulfites but the histamines. I can drink a small amount, like half a glass of wine and usually get away with it but a whole glass will trigger a migraine, white or red. Or, maybe I'm just sensitive to the alcohol itself.

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All grapes contain tannin.  Many people are intolerant to tannin.  There are other possibilities too.  Like my kid just got sick on grapes (she does not have celiac disease).  She was a victim of glut

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Food intolerances are real and so is a leaky gut (or whatever you want to call it).  They are both common, especially with those who have celiac disease.  How those intolerances (which differ from an

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Not to be mean, but you would think that you would know by now that I do not supplement unless it is necessary.   I have my vitamin and mineral levels checked as recommended for proper follow-up celia

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49 minutes ago, Anniehall said:

Good question. Maybe all wine contains histamine just in varying amounts. Not sure. It might also be the yeast in the wine or any alcohol causing an issue with alcohol in general because yeast is a gluten cross reactive. I love nutritional yeast on popcorn. I don't react to popcorn and when I was doing elimination diet I tested nutritional yeast. It not only caused a bit of acne but caused insomnia for me. 

Trents you're going to love. I found some great links on this topic. The pub med has other similar articles listed at the bottom too if you want to delve into it more. 

1.  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8005453/#:~:text=Histamine levels ranged from 3,Histamine is causing wine intolerance.

2. https://theceliacmd.com/the-low-histamine-diet-what-is-it-and-does-it-work/

3. https://www.sonomamag.com/seasonal-allergies-wine/

4. https://magicsnewbiewines.com/snacks/which-alcohol-contains-histamine.html

5. https://www.factvsfitness.com/blogs/news/dao-deficiency-increase-dao-enzyme

The fifth link is probably the most helpful of all. An idea I thought of from the mention in one of the links that ginger is a natural antihistamine made me think why not use ginger ale or ginger beer as a mixer when making mixed drinks. Also just as an extra thought. Vitamin C is a natural antihistamine so maybe a screw driver would be good but I would definitely coat my stomach lining with a nice glass of milk when taking a vitamin C supplement or before a screw driver because vitamin C needs a protein to be absorbed and the milk seems to counter act the acidity of alcohol for me.  Maybe you could make an orange cream screwdriver. That sounds good to me.  I'm just weary of drinking liquors that come from things I react to even though people claim the gluten is filtered out. 

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15 minutes ago, Anniehall said:

Trents you're going to love. I found some great links on this topic. The pub med has other similar articles listed at the bottom too if you want to delve into it more. 

1.  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8005453/#:~:text=Histamine levels ranged from 3,Histamine is causing wine intolerance.

2. https://theceliacmd.com/the-low-histamine-diet-what-is-it-and-does-it-work/

3. https://www.sonomamag.com/seasonal-allergies-wine/

4. https://magicsnewbiewines.com/snacks/which-alcohol-contains-histamine.html

5. https://www.factvsfitness.com/blogs/news/dao-deficiency-increase-dao-enzyme

The fifth link is probably the most helpful of all. An idea I thought of from the mention in one of the links that ginger is a natural antihistamine made me think why not use ginger ale or ginger beer as a mixer when making mixed drinks. Also just as an extra thought. Vitamin C is a natural antihistamine so maybe a screw driver would be good but I would definitely coat my stomach lining with a nice glass of milk when taking a vitamin C supplement or before a screw driver because vitamin C needs a protein to be absorbed and the milk seems to counter act the acidity of alcohol for me.  Maybe you could make an orange cream screwdriver. That sounds good to me.  I'm just weary of drinking liquors that come from things I react to even though people claim the gluten is filtered out. 

Found this link. Tells what each liquor is distilled from. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/where-does-alcohol-come-from-3975928

From reading that it seems that Brandy and Tequila are probably the safest liquors for me to consume. I would say rum but I have never been able to handle rum at all. Makes me vomit profusely. 

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Links have good information. I note especially the one about wine and seasonal allergies. I notice more histamine overload episodes in the spring and fall when more pollen is in the air.

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