Jump to content

  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):

    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Bluebonnet MultiOne

Lotte18
 Share

Recommended Posts

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted

Hi all,

I've been taking these everyday for the last month.  When my hip inflammation got really bad I started to wonder if these vitamins had gluten.  They claim to be gluten free.  I just tested them with EZGluten and got a high positive reading.  Are vitamins not covered by the new Federal Law?  Has anyone else tested Bluebonnet?  

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


RMJ Mentor
RMJ
Posted
1 hour ago, Lotte18 said:

Hi all,

I've been taking these everyday for the last month.  When my hip inflammation got really bad I started to wonder if these vitamins had gluten.  They claim to be gluten free.  I just tested them with EZGluten and got a high positive reading.  Are vitamins not covered by the new Federal Law?  Has anyone else tested Bluebonnet?  

From the EZGluten website:

“Can I test non-food items such as supplements, enzymes, medications, cosmetics, toiletries and cleaning products?”

“The EZ Gluten® test was designed and validated for testing foods. While it will also work in a variety of other sample types, we cannot guarantee the results or the limit of detection for non-food items.”

I don’t think the FDA gluten labeling regulations cover dietary supplements yet.

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author

Thanks for your reply RMJ.  I'm going to call EZGluten tomorrow to try and get more info.  It seems to me you can get false negatives, but unlikely that you can get a false gluten positive.  But hey, I'm no chemist.

In the meantime, it would be nice to hear from anyone who also might take, or has taken Bluebonnet supplements.  It seems like a major brand.  You're probably right about the FDA labeling.  Does anyone out there know for sure?

Scott Adams Grand Master
Scott Adams
Posted

I've not had them before, but please let us know what they share with you.

RMJ Mentor
RMJ
Posted
28 minutes ago, Lotte18 said:

Thanks for your reply RMJ.  I'm going to call EZGluten tomorrow to try and get more info.  It seems to me you can get false negatives, but unlikely that you can get a false gluten positive.  But hey, I'm no chemist.

In the meantime, it would be nice to hear from anyone who also might take, or has taken Bluebonnet supplements.  It seems like a major brand.  You're probably right about the FDA labeling.  Does anyone out there know for sure?

I was wrong, see page 3.  The FDA labeling regulation does cover dietary supplements.  Unfortunately, the FDA doesn’t require testing in order to label something as gluten free (which I know is very strange).

FDA gluten free labeling information

knitty kitty Grand Master
knitty kitty
Posted

It has soybeans.  Do you have a problem with soybeans?  Some Celiacs have to avoid them.  

It also has thiamine mononitrate which is not a bioavailable form of thiamine.  Get additional thiamine as Benfotiamine.  It helps heal the digestive tract.

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author

Hi RMJ,  I believe there is a more recent law regulating gluten labeling.  If a product claims to be gluten free it has to test free of gluten.  It can't just have gluten free ingredients.  But I don't know whether vitamins are covered under this latest ruling.   

It does have soybeans but I don't think that's the problem, at least not for me.  My real concern is the gluten.

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):


Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author
13 hours ago, Scott Adams said:

I've not had them before, but please let us know what they share with you.

Hi Scott,

I just spoke to EZGluten.  Their test can find up to 10 ppm.  Manufacturers are allowed 20ppm.  So the vitamins probably have gluten.  The only other reason they could test positive is from "some enzyme" included in the recipe.  I'm not going to bother boiling this vitamin down to eliminate enzymes.  I'm just not going to buy supplements anymore.  

Scott Adams Grand Master
Scott Adams
Posted

 

Quote

Manufacturers are allowed 20ppm.  So the vitamins probably have gluten. 

Note that just because up to 20ppm is allowed before an involuntary product recall could happen, it does not mean that products labelled "gluten-free" regularly contain 5-19ppm. Most likely have zero detected gluten, and if any gluten were detected below 20ppm it should be cause for concern, and most companies would try to find out where the gluten came from so they could eliminate it. Product recalls are very expensive.

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author
1 hour ago, Scott Adams said:

 

Note that just because up to 20ppm is allowed before an involuntary product recall could happen, it does not mean that products labelled "gluten-free" regularly contain 5-19ppm. Most likely have zero detected gluten, and if any gluten were detected below 20ppm it should be cause for concern, and most companies would try to find out where the gluten came from so they could eliminate it. Product recalls are very expensive.

Thanks so much for that info!  I was really starting to worry that I had to look out for a cumulative gluten hit from my "gluten free" food.  

Beverage Proficient
Beverage
Posted
On 10/18/2022 at 7:35 AM, Lotte18 said:

I'm just not going to buy supplements anymore.  

I've had good luck with Procapslabs.com vitamins. I'm a very sensitive celiac and never had a problem. They have 1 supplement with wheat grass I think, I stay away from that. We use their "Essential 1" for a multi. I've used them for years, before they were sold on tv, and the forms of the vitamins are usually the better more absorbable forms.

Patty harrigan Apprentice
Patty harrigan
Posted
On 10/17/2022 at 10:22 PM, Lotte18 said:

Hi RMJ,  I believe there is a more recent law regulating gluten labeling.  If a product claims to be gluten free it has to test free of gluten.  It can't just have gluten free ingredients.  But I don't know whether vitamins are covered under this latest ruling.   

It does have soybeans but I don't think that's the problem, at least not for me.  My real concern is the gluten.

I have used many different bluebonnet products for decades and have never had I problem. I get seriously sick from gluten and am extremely careful.

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author

Hi Patty, I'm glad that you've had a better experience than I have had.   These test strips are really expensive so I'm not going use up a second one on Bluebonnet, which is a very expensive supplement to start with.  When I get up the courage to try again I'll try Procapslabs...thank you Beverage!

riverrt Newbie
riverrt
Posted

I have had good luck with Bronson vitamins. Most of them are labeled gluten free.

Lotte18 Contributor
Lotte18
Posted
  • Author

Thanks for the tip!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):



    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):



  • Recent Activity

    1. knitty kitty
      - knitty kitty replied to kpf's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      14

      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      @kpf, Were you eating ten grams or more of gluten daily in the month preceding your antibody blood tests? TTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines. Ten grams of gluten per day for several weeks before testing is required to provoke sufficient antibody production for the antibodies to leave the intestines and enter the blood stream and be measured...
    2. Trish G
      - Trish G replied to Trish G's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      6

      Fiber Supplement

      Thanks, I'm not a big fan of prunes but did add them back after stopping the Benefiber. Hoping for the best while I wait to hear back from Nutritionist for a different fiber supplement. Thanks again
    3. Wheatwacked
      - Wheatwacked replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      36

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      If you were wondering why milk protein bothers you with Celiac Disease. Commercial dairies supplement the cow feed with wheat, which becomes incorporated in the milk protein. Milk omega 6 to omega 3 ratio: Commercial Dairies: 5:1 Organic Milk: 3:1 Grass fed milk: 1:1
    4. Wheatwacked
      - Wheatwacked replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      36

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      My TMJ ended when I lost a middle lower molar. I had an amalgam filling from youth (1960s) that failed and the tooth broke. I had what was left pulled and did not bother to replace it. My bite shifted and the TMJ went away. I just had to be careful eating M&M Peanuts because they would get stuck in the hole.
    5. trents
      - trents replied to kpf's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      14

      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      Yes, I wondered about the units as well. That large number sure looked more like what we're used to seeing in connection with total IGA scores rather than TTG-IGA. The total IGA test is given to determine if you are IGA deficient. In the case of IGA deficiency, other IGA tests will b skewed and their scores cannot be trusted. Elevated total IGA can point...
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):


  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,343
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748
    JosieS
    Newest Member
    JosieS
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):



  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):


  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      By knitty kitty · Posted

      @kpf, Were you eating ten grams or more of gluten daily in the month preceding your antibody blood tests? TTg IgA antibodies are made in the intestines.  Ten grams of gluten per day for several weeks before testing is required to provoke sufficient antibody production for the antibodies to leave the intestines and enter the blood stream and be measured in blood tests. If you had already gone gluten free or if you had lowered your consumption of gluten before testing, your results will be inaccurate and inconclusive.   See link below on gluten challenge guidelines. Have you had any genetic testing done to see if you carry genes for Celiac disease?  If you don't have genes for Celiac, look elsewhere for a diagnosis.  But if you have Celiac genes, you cannot rule out Celiac disease. You mentioned in another post that you are vegetarian.  Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  The best sources of the eight essential B vitamins are found in meats.  Do you supplement any of the B vitamins as a vegetarian? Deficiency in Thiamine Vitamin B 1 is strongly associated with anemia which can cause false negatives on antibody tests.  Fatigue, numbness or tingling in extremities, difficulty with coordination, headaches and anemia are strongly associated with thiamine deficiency.  Other B vitamins that contribute to those symptoms are Riboflavin B 2, Pyridoxine B 6, Folate B 9 and B12 Cobalamine.  The eight B vitamins all work together with minerals like magnesium and iron.  So your symptoms are indicative of B vitamin deficiencies.  You can develop vitamin and mineral deficiencies just being a vegetarian and not eating good sources of B vitamins like meat.  B vitamin deficiencies are found in Celiac due to the malabsorption of nutrients because the lining of the intestines gets damaged by the antibodies produced in response to gluten.    
    • Trish G
      Fiber Supplement

      By Trish G · Posted

      Thanks, I'm not a big fan of prunes but did add them back after stopping the Benefiber. Hoping for the best while I wait to hear back from Nutritionist for a different fiber supplement.  Thanks again
    • Wheatwacked
      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      By Wheatwacked · Posted

      If you were wondering why milk protein bothers you with Celiac Disease.  Commercial dairies supplement the cow feed with wheat, which becomes incorporated in the milk protein. Milk omega 6 to omega 3 ratio: Commercial Dairies: 5:1 Organic Milk: 3:1 Grass fed milk: 1:1
    • Wheatwacked
      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

      By Wheatwacked · Posted

      My TMJ ended when I lost a middle lower molar.  I had an amalgam filling from youth (1960s) that failed and the tooth broke.  I had what was left pulled and did not bother to replace it.  My bite shifted and the TMJ went away.  I just had to be careful eating M&M Peanuts because they would get stuck in the hole.
    • trents
      ttg iga high (646 mg/dl) other results are normal

      By trents · Posted

      Yes, I wondered about the units as well. That large number sure looked more like what we're used to seeing in connection with total IGA scores rather than TTG-IGA. The total IGA test is given to determine if you are IGA deficient. In the case of IGA deficiency, other IGA tests will b skewed and their scores cannot be trusted. Elevated total IGA can point to other health issues, some of them potentially serious, or it can mean nothing. But it doesn't look like you have celiac disease.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.