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ac5858 Newbie

I have been gluten-free for 12 years now and of course deal with the occasional flare-ups of getting "glutened." I recently went on an SSRI (Zoloft/Sertaline), and have been experiencing the strangest symptoms, and can't help but wonder if they are due to gluten. I have been extremely fatigued, horrible headaches, canker sores that will not go away, acne, and brain fog. 

Has anyone else experienced something similar? 


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trents Grand Master

How long have you been taking the SSRI? Maybe it's a matter of your body needing more time to adjust to it or maybe the dosage needs to be adjusted.

Also, as you know, wheat starch can be used in pills as a filler. See what you can find out from the dispensing pharmacy and if necessary they can give you information about their supplier to ask more detailed questions.

Many medications also leach or block the uptake of certain nutrients and that could figure into your symptoms.

There is also the possibility that you have developed an additional food intolerance that mimics the effect of gluten. Do you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity)?

knitty kitty Grand Master

@ac5858,

After being on the gluten free diet for such a long time, it is more likely you have developed nutritional deficiencies.

1 hour ago, ac5858 said:

 I have been extremely fatigued, horrible headaches, canker sores that will not go away, acne, and brain fog. 

These are all symptoms of Thiamine deficiency.  I know from experience, thiamine deficiency will cause Depression, extreme fatigue, headaches and brain fog, and canker sores and acne.

Nutritional deficiencies can occur on the gluten free diet.  Processed gluten free facsimile foods are not enriched with vitamins and minerals lost in processing like gluten based foods are required by law to do.  

Thiamine is Vitamin B 1.  Thiamine works with magnesium (magnesium glycinate is the gentleman form) and the other seven B vitamins.  Thiamine can only be stored for three weeks, with deficiency symptoms occurring within a week.  One can have a subclinical thiamine deficiency for a long time.  Symptoms can wax and wane depending on how much Thiamine is included in the diet daily.  

Vitamin D deficiency is also a cause of depression.

My depression did NOT resolve on antidepressants.  Only after supplementing with Vitamin D (my lab test showed severe Vitamin D deficiency) and Thiamine.  

Here are some articles that explain more in depth....

 

For those canker sores...

Recurrent aphthous stomatitis and thiamine deficiency

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8974135/

AND...

Recurrent aphthous ulceration: vitamin B1, B2 and B6 status and response to replacement therapy

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1941656/

 

DEPRESSION....

Adjuvant thiamine improved standard treatment in patients with major depressive disorder: results from a randomized, double-blind, and placebo-controlled clinical trial

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26984349/

AND...

Neurological, Psychiatric, and Biochemical Aspects of Thiamine Deficiency in Children and Adults

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6459027/?report=reader

 

Vitamin D and depression

Vitamin D and Depression: A Critical Appraisal of the Evidence and Future Directions

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6970300/

 

DIET...

Antidepressant foods: An evidence-based nutrient profiling system for depression

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6147775/?report=reader

 

 

Do get checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies!  Discuss with your doctor the benefits of supplementing with extra thiamine and a B Complex, and Vitamin D, and magnesium.

Hope this helps!

plumbago Experienced

I've gotten aptheous (spelling?) ulcers in my mouth - but it's been a while. It may have been due to tomatoes, sugar, or something viral. I was never really able to nail it down for sure. I did change to a toothpaste without SLS. For the most part, everything I did (new toothpaste, trying hard not always successfully to reduce sugar)

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