Histamine Intolerance

[fergusminto]

Having been diagnosed with celiac disease in 2009 I increasingly developed intolerances to certain foods and beverages like dairy, eggs, alcohol, food preservatives, tomatoes etc. haven’t had much success with doctors/dieticians here esp with current Govt cutbacks so have been doing my own research. I am sick to death of headaches during the night and always try and pinpoint exactly what has caused them eg gym work, drinks, food etc. I have finally come to the conclusion that I have a histamine problem. Everything seems to fit - a lack of DAO.

Are celiac disease and histamine intolerance related in any way? How do I “cure” it? 
Would be very grateful for advice.

 

[Rogol72]

  On 6/28/2023 at 8:54 AM, fergusminto said:

Having been diagnosed with celiac disease in 2009 I increasingly developed intolerances to certain foods and beverages like dairy, eggs, alcohol, food preservatives, tomatoes etc. haven’t had much success with doctors/dieticians here esp with current Govt cutbacks so have been doing my own research. I am sick to death of headaches during the night and always try and pinpoint exactly what has caused them eg gym work, drinks, food etc. I have finally come to the conclusion that I have a histamine problem. Everything seems to fit - a lack of DAO.

Are celiac disease and histamine intolerance related in any way? How do I “cure” it? 
Would be very grateful for advice.

 

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I believe Coelics are prone to developing histamine intolerance and MCAS. For me it comes down to making sure my body has all the Vitamins and Minerals it needs to heal and the cofactors needed to produce DAO. Dysbiosis plays a role in HI also. My HI has improved vastly since minimizing food and beverages high in histamine ... though this can be difficult in some cases. If I eat a meal high in histamine, I fall asleep afterwards for a few minutes ... post meal narcolepsy!!

Here's some resources I found educational and helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIDBgJNIO8Y

https://www.factvsfitness.com/blogs/news/histamine-intolerance-headaches-migraines

https://www.healinghistamine.com/

 

[fergusminto]

Many thanks for this. I take it there are no DAO supplements available yet. My diet is already seriously restricted - I can see further restrictions will be necessary! I do take Sodium Cromoglycate (Nalcrom) but it doesn’t appear to help. Maybe I should increase the dose. Regards. 

[shadycharacter]

  On 6/28/2023 at 12:12 PM, fergusminto said:

Many thanks for this. I take it there are no DAO supplements available yet. My diet is already seriously restricted - I can see further restrictions will be necessary! I do take Sodium Cromoglycate (Nalcrom) but it doesn’t appear to help. Maybe I should increase the dose. Regards. 

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I think there are DAO supplements. DAO contains copper, so make sure your not copper deficient. 

[fergusminto]

Thanks. I will have another search through the internet and see if I can get any here in Scotland. Regards.

[knitty kitty]

@fergusminto,

I found following a low histamine diet and taking certain vitamins that help break down histamine helped me.  

Here's an explanation of the low histamine diet...

https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-a-low-histamine-diet-4694529

And...

Low-Histamine Diets: Is the Exclusion of Foods Justified by Their Histamine Content?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8143338/

If you change your diet, your intestinal flora will change, too, eliminating undesirable bacteria that make histamine in the gut.

The dietary treatment of histamine intolerance reduces the abundance of some histamine-secreting bacteria of the gut microbiota in histamine intolerant women. A pilot study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9633985/

And...

Take a B Complex supplement and additional thiamine (benfotiamine) since the eight B vitamins help get rid of histamine, especially Thiamine.

Increased mast cell degranulation within thalamus in early pre-lesion stages of an experimental model of Wernicke's encephalopathy

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10411347/

Thiamine will help migraines, too.  I used to have painful debilitating migraines, but they have stopped since taking high dose Thiamine.  I still get ophthalmic migraines from computer usage (caused by vitamin deficiencies affecting the optic nerve prior to Celiac diagnosis).  

Dietary intake of thiamine and riboflavin in relation to severe headache or migraine: A cross-sectional survey

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36047917/

Vitamins are probably available in Scotland.  

[fergusminto]

Thanks KK! Yes vitamins are available here!

Sitting here on vacation in Dornoch with a splitting headache - I think the bedclothes must have been washed in some detergent I am intolerant to. Typical histamine reaction.

These articles are excellent so thank you for sending them over.

[Awol cast iron stomach]

I modified my diet for years in addition to gluten, as I had multiple food intolerances post gluten challenge. I still watch my histamine levels particularly during allergy season, as I have environmental allergies as well that can increase my histamine load.  As others mentioned I also maintain nutrition/supplementation as well. Lastly, I regularly have acupuncture to support my immune system, and histamine levels. 

Best wishes 

[fergusminto]

Since opening this thread I have read through the responses (some great sources there, thanks) and have started taking a DAO supplement. Effects have been much better and faster than I first expected with my aches and pains, especially in my lower back much improved. I cannot say that it has helped my multi food/aroma intolerances yet but hoping! I am also going to the gym twice a week to strengthen my back and core.

Histamine intolerance has still not been confirmed by the NHS - it all takes time now thanks to U.K. Govt.