Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Do I Have Celiac Disease


Justsherry

Recommended Posts

Justsherry Newbie

Hello. In April bloodwork showed I was anemic. My hemoglobin was 7.6 and further testing revealed low iron level of 17, and vitamin B12 and folate deficiency. I received five iron infusions, and my levels greatly improved. Currently my hemoglbin is 12, but iron is dropping again. Nothing too abnormal in other testing, came back with a weak positive of 32 on an ANA test for Sjogrens SSB, and I tested positive for parietal cell antibody antibody, which can affect vitamin B12 absorption. I've done research, and I'm wondering if I could have Celiac Disease. I have had stomach/bowel issues for most of my life, but my doctor said it's most likely IBS and it was never really addressed again until these findings. My doctor is referring me to a gastroenterologist and I will see him in August. Looking at the symptoms, I think it could be a real possibility. I'm looking on advice on what to request, and what to expect. Thank you.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



trents Grand Master

Welcome to the forum, Justsherry!

Parietal cell antibody positive and low B12 would indicate pernicious anemia. In this condition, your parietal cells are not producing enough "intrinsic factor" which is necessary for the absorption of B12 which, in turn, prevents the proper absorption of iron from the diet. This condition is offset by B12 injections but sometimes can be addressed by massive sublingual doses of B12. The low iron itself can be directly addressed by iron infusions. But B12 is important for other reasons in the the metabolic processes of the body so it shouldn't be overlooked.

Since you also describe having stomach/bowel issues for many years it certainly is possible you have celiac disease as the damage it causes to the villi that line the small bowel can also cause poor absorption of vitamins and minerals. When you go to the GI doc, ask for a "full celiac panel":

1. Total serum IGA

2. tTG-IGA

3. EMA

4. DGP (IgA and IgG)

These are antibody tests specifically designed to detect celiac disease. If you throw positives in any of them the GI doc may want to do an endoscopy with biopsy of the small bowel lining to check for damage. Do not experiment with a gluten free diet until all testing for celiac disease is complete.

Justsherry Newbie

Thank you for your response. I will request these tests.  I am taking sublingual doses of B12 daily and monthly B12 shots, as well as folic acid as prescribed by doc. I saw a link between iron deficient anemia and b12 deficiency with celiac, so I started looking in this direction.

trents Grand Master

Besides celiac disease, there is another gluten-related disorder known as NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). The two share many of the same symptoms but NCGS does not damage the villi that line the small bowel. NCGS is 10x more common than celiac disease but there is no test for it yet. Celiac disease must first be ruled out. If you test negative for celiac disease then you might experiment with a gluten free diet after all the celiac testing is done.

Wheatwacked Veteran
Quote

"What causes gastric parietal cell antibodies? Anti-gastric parietal cell antibodies (in the presence or absence of anaemia) are frequently associated with other autoimmune diseases such as autoimmune thyroiditis, insulin dependent diabetes or Addisons disease. Antibodies to intrinsic factor can also be detected in the same diseases."

"It’s not completely clear what causes irritable bowel syndrome."

"Autoimmune gastritis is a chronic inflammatory disease with destruction of parietal cells of the corpus and fundus of the stomach. The known consequence is vitamin B12 deficiency and, consequently, pernicious anemia."

Hi Justsherry. 

  1. Are you vegan or some other restrictive diet?  There is not much vitamin B12 in a vegan diet.  
  2. Celiac, IBS, Sjrogens and autoimmune gastritis are autoimmune diseases and they are all have low vitamin D in common.  Vitamin D and the Immune System

The only one in this bunch that has a definate cause is Celiac Disease.  The others are "we know the symptoms and we have drugs to treat, but we don't know why." Since you've had stomach issues most of your life it is likely to be Celiac Disease which the tests outlined by Trents should indicate, if the gastroenterologist chooses them.  It is not reasonable while suffering and I suspect getting worse while you wait for the gastroenterologist until August to maybe or maybe not test you for Celiac.  Doctors like to test for things they have drugs to treat you with.

Your primary is already prepping you for IBS. 10 to 15% US Adults have IBS and 11% have Gluten Sensitivity. 1% Celiac Disease and 10% Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity. Why would IBS be the more likely? There are drugs for IBS and the only treatment for Gluten Sensitivity is abstenance from Gluten and replenishment of the vitamin and mineral deficiencies caused malabsorbtion.

While waiting for your appointment with the gastroenterolist I suggest a trial gluten free diet.  If it is GS. Celiac Disease or Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity, you can expect improvement almost immediately and  it will help the gastroenterologist to differentiate between IBS and gluten.  The caveat is that you need to be consuming at least two slices of bread a day for six weeks before the appointment to build enough antibodies to show up in the blood tests and for a least two weeks before an endoscopy/Celiac biopsy to ensure villi damage will be found.

You might ask for a blood test for homocysteine.  It can indicate a deficiency of Folate, B12, Choline or Taurine.  It can also indicate too much Folic Acid in your diet.

Quote

"An elevated homocysteine level is one of the more common findings I see in people with chronic healthcare problems.... Elevated homocysteine has been shown to be a contributing factor in vessel damage, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, stroke, migraines, Alzheimer’s disease, dementia, macular degeneration, and cancer.There are a number of factors that can affect the amount of folate getting to MTHFR for conversion to 5MTHF: a low folate diet, high intake of folic acid from supplements and processed foods, medications that block folate absorption" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/part-2-four-pathways-homocysteine-one-more-your-dr-eric-balcavage

 

Quote

 

Top 6 Foods That Are High in Vitamin B12:

  • Liver & kidney
  • Beef
  • Lamb
  • Fish (Sardines, Tuna & Salmon)
  • Milk and dairy products
  • Eggs
Justsherry Newbie

I am not vegan or vegetarian. My diet should be sufficient to meet my dietary needs. This is why I'm looking in the direction of autoimmune diseases that may be causing iron deficiency anemia, vitamin b12 and folate deficiency. Or possibly just iron deficiency anemia, if B12 is solely due to parietal cell antibody. I honestly feel like it is an absorption issue, and I'm trying to be prepared with my thoughts when I visit the gastroenterologist. Initially my GP sent me to a hematologist/oncologist. I had weekly blood draws when I was receiving iron infusions, and he feels the risk of cancer is low. There is nothing pointing to that possibility at this time other than anemia. This is why I'm looking for alternatives, of what could be the cause. I have always had bowel issues of some sort, I feel that it was never really investigated due to age when I was younger. I just accepted it was probably IBS, but IBS doesn't cause anemia that I know of. Maybe celiac disease isn't the culprit, I really don't know, but I want to explore any possible reasons. 

Wheatwacked Veteran
8 hours ago, Justsherry said:

I honestly feel like it is an absorption issue, and I'm trying to be prepared with my thoughts when I visit the gastroenterologist.

Celiac Disease is a disease of malabsorbtion. 

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/nutrient-deficiencies-and-celiac-disease-understanding-the-connection-r6192/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-24119


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      127,733
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Debbeighe
    Newest Member
    Debbeighe
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121k
    • Total Posts
      70.4k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      You are most welcome, Marie.  Thank you for getting in touch, because this sort of post will be seen by other parents who find themselves in this position, I am sure there are many.   And as I say, in the long run, I am sure your daughter will be sorry for what she said.  I remember having a go at my dear Mum when I was in my twenties about something and then apologising, saying, "I don't know how you put up with me."  I can't remember her exact words but it was something along the lines of, "I used to say things like to my Mum.  Now it's my turn [to be on the receiving end]!"    😂  Although it isn't very nice to be on the receiving end, it is good your daughter feels safe to say these things to you. We look forward to hearing from you again in due course.  
    • Wheatwacked
      Are You Confused About Your Celiac Disease Lab Results? Some people test negative but have a positive biopsy, others test positive but negative biopsy.  This is why it can take years and misdiagnosis of other diseases that Celiac Disease can mimic. The above link is a good read with real life examples. Something I find interesting is that in 1980 or so a new diagnosis was created, Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity, only 10 years after Norman Borlaug won the Nobel Peace Prize for creating our modern wheat and the Green Revolution.    
    • trents
      @Steve-n-Portland, there is a difference in the requirements to use the label "Gluten Free" and the label "Certified Gluten Free". "Gluten Free" is governed by FDA regulations and has a ceiling of 20 ppm. "Certified Gluten Free" is a labeling convention used by the GFCO, an independent international third party certifying group that uses 10 ppm as its standard.
    • trents
      We have had numerous reports from forum participants experiencing gluten reactions from Trader Joe "gluten-free" products. It seems it's not a good place for the celiac/gluten sensitive community to shop.
    • Steve-n-Portland
      Also, a class action lawsuit was launched in 2024 against Trader Joe's re: their " gluten free" everything bagels. They tested at 269ppm. (Personally, I am not sure they will win. The FDA says that the *ingredients* have to be less than 20ppm for a company to label something "gluten-free."  In order to be certified as gluten-free by the GFCO, the *final product* needs to be less than 20ppm. That said, the lawsuit is arguing that most people read that label and assume the final product is safe for people with celiac. Thus, many people were made sick. And being sick can have costly consequences in regard to work or school, depending when one becomes ill.)
×
×
  • Create New...