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Has anyone been glutened by ground beef from meijer? I can’t find the packaging so I don’t know the brand, but it was the cheapest they had so I’m thinking it was meijer brand.


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knitty kitty Grand Master

@Snoopy23456,

Hello!  

If it was plain ground beef, there's a slim chance it was contaminated with gluten.  

What could be happening is that the beef was high in histamine.  Steers raised and fattened in crowded feed lots produce more histamine in their bodies because they are under stress. 

High histamine from dietary intake can exacerbate histamine levels in our bodies.  

We make histamine as part of the autoimmune response in CeD.  Adding in high histamine foods can cause our cup to run over -- our bodies just can't clear the load fast enough and we get gastrointestinal symptoms similar to what happens when we get glutened.  

Vitamin C, Cobalamine B12, and Pyridoxine B6 are needed to clear histamine.  Supplementing with a B Complex will help ensure you have sufficient vitamin stores to help you process histamine.  Since the eight essential B vitamins are water soluble, any excess is eliminated easily in urine.  

A B Complex supplement will also provide Niacin Vitamin B 3 (or Niacinamide, another form of Niacin that does not cause flushing).  Flushing with Niacin is normal and harmless.  It's just a vasodilation, and should go away as Niacin stores in the body are replenished.  

Niacin helps our bodies produce stomach acid and digestive enzymes.  Some newly diagnosed Celiacs have difficulty digesting meat because they are low in stomach acid (hypochlorhydria).  Supplementing with Niacin will help.

Another option is to purchase Grass-fed beef.  Yes, it's more expensive, but has lower levels of histamine.  Grass fed cattle fed in pasture are less stressed and produce less histamine in their bodies.  

I switched to grass fed beef while I was healing.  I also had hypochlorhydria.  I supplemented with the eight essential B Complex vitamins.  I can now tolerate feedlot beef.  

Hope this helps!

Snoopy23456 Newbie
5 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

@Snoopy23456,

Hello!  

If it was plain ground beef, there's a slim chance it was contaminated with gluten.  

What could be happening is that the beef was high in histamine.  Steers raised and fattened in crowded feed lots produce more histamine in their bodies because they are under stress. 

High histamine from dietary intake can exacerbate histamine levels in our bodies.  

We make histamine as part of the autoimmune response in CeD.  Adding in high histamine foods can cause our cup to run over -- our bodies just can't clear the load fast enough and we get gastrointestinal symptoms similar to what happens when we get glutened.  

Vitamin C, Cobalamine B12, and Pyridoxine B6 are needed to clear histamine.  Supplementing with a B Complex will help ensure you have sufficient vitamin stores to help you process histamine.  Since the eight essential B vitamins are water soluble, any excess is eliminated easily in urine.  

A B Complex supplement will also provide Niacin Vitamin B 3 (or Niacinamide, another form of Niacin that does not cause flushing).  Flushing with Niacin is normal and harmless.  It's just a vasodilation, and should go away as Niacin stores in the body are replenished.  

Niacin helps our bodies produce stomach acid and digestive enzymes.  Some newly diagnosed Celiacs have difficulty digesting meat because they are low in stomach acid (hypochlorhydria).  Supplementing with Niacin will help.

Another option is to purchase Grass-fed beef.  Yes, it's more expensive, but has lower levels of histamine.  Grass fed cattle fed in pasture are less stressed and produce less histamine in their bodies.  

I switched to grass fed beef while I was healing.  I also had hypochlorhydria.  I supplemented with the eight essential B Complex vitamins.  I can now tolerate feedlot beef.  

Hope this helps!

Thank you so much! This is super helpful!

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