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Celiac disease and Hashimotos


Raquel2021
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Hello everyone,

Just wondering if anyone else has celiac and Hashimotos? I hear is common.  I have my celiac antibodies under control but my Hashimotos antibodies(tpos) have gone up from 95  to 175 so moving in the wrong direction. Has anyone been able to bring thryroid antibodies down? If yes, any tips?. I went dairy free 10 months ago when I was told  I had Hashimotos.  I am so thankful for this forums. It is the only place where I have learned information that actually made a difference in my celiac journey.  Thanks again 


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knitty kitty Grand Master

@Raquel2021,

Thiamine deficiency goes along with Hashimoto's.  

I stopped losing my hair  and felt much better after I supplemented with high dose Thiamine.

Here's some interesting articles...

https://www.palomahealth.com/learn/benefits-thiamine-hypothyroidism

And...

https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/thiamine-and-thyroid-fatigue/

And...

Hypothyroidism Complicated by Vitamin C and Thiamin Deficiency in Surgical Patients

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37278003/

 

Raquel2021 Collaborator
28 minutes ago, knitty kitty said:

@Raquel2021,

Thiamine deficiency goes along with Hashimoto's.  

I stopped losing my hair  and felt much better after I supplemented with high dose Thiamine.

Here's some interesting articles...

https://www.palomahealth.com/learn/benefits-thiamine-hypothyroidism

And...

https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/thiamine-and-thyroid-fatigue/

And...

Hypothyroidism Complicated by Vitamin C and Thiamin Deficiency in Surgical Patients

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37278003/

 

Thank you . Very interesting.  I have tried taking a b complex and it would cause me severe insomnia so I am trying to get my vitamins from diet. How did you find out you had a B1 deficiency?

knitty kitty Grand Master

@Raquel2021,

My story and my research is in my blog, linked below.  

I was misdiagnosed.  For a very long time.  My doctors were clueless.  I depended on what I learned at university.  I don't want anyone else to go through what I went through, so now I'm here. 

 Knowledge is power. 

If you have any questions, I'm very happy to answer them.

Raquel2021 Collaborator

Thank you. I will take the time to read it

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knitty kitty Grand Master

I take my B vitamins earlier in the day.  The B12, Thiamine and Niacin can make one feel energized.  Magnesium is a cofactor with some B vitamins, so you might not be bothered by insomnia if you add a magnesium glycinate or magnesium citrate  supplement after a meal.  

Niacin can cause flushing, a vasodilation of small blood vessels, which is harmless and goes away as Niacin stores in the body are replenished.  

I like this B Complex...

https://www.lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item01945/bioactive-complete-b-complex?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxZ66wPX__gIVZnJMCh0MvA6HEAQYAyABEgK-x_D_BwE

Hope this helps!

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Raquel2021 Collaborator
On 7/25/2023 at 8:58 PM, knitty kitty said:

@Raquel2021,

My story and my research is in my blog, linked below.  

I was misdiagnosed.  For a very long time.  My doctors were clueless.  I depended on what I learned at university.  I don't want anyone else to go through what I went through, so now I'm here. 

 Knowledge is power. 

If you have any questions, I'm very happy to answer them.

Do you also have Hashimotos? Thanks


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knitty kitty Grand Master

@Raquel2021,

Well, not anymore.  Thiamine is needed for the thyroid to function properly, too.

Hypothyroidism Complicated by Vitamin C and Thiamin Deficiency in Surgical Patients

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37278003/

And...

https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/thiamine-and-thyroid-fatigue/

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