Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS)


Bronwyn W
Go to solution Solved by trents,

Recommended Posts

Bronwyn W Apprentice

Up-front, I cannot express my gratitude sufficiently. Thank you so much for all you highly valuable and much appreciated support 🙏🏻

Please can you advise what tests I should have for a diagnosis on mast cell activation syndrome (mcas) and/or histamine intolerance and h.pilori? Are histamine intolerance and mcas thr same thing?

Kind regards, 

Bronwyn 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • Solution
trents Grand Master

Histamine intolerance and MCAS go hand in hand. If you have histamine intolerance, you will have MCAS and vice versa. I'm not saying they are exactly the same thing but I'm saying you really can't separate the two. Another way putting it is that MCAS is the root cause of histamine intolerance. If you want information on diagnosing MCAS just google it. Or, you might try going on a low histamine diet to see if your symptoms improve. I don't think there is a cure for MCAS but a slow histamine diet can help manage it. To some degree, antihistamine therapy (zyrtec, allegra) helps control the symptoms but you may still have outbreaks at times. There are many things that contribute to histamine levels in the body including environmental and seasonal allergies. It's not just what you eat but that is the one thing you can exercise some control over.

knitty kitty Grand Master

@Bronwyn W,

I don't believe a diagnosis is necessary for histamine intolerance.  

Our bodies can make histamine.  Mast cells (a type of immune cell) release histamine in our bodies in reaction to perceived invaders like bacteria, viruses, and gluten. 

Our food contains histamine.  Some foods contain higher levels of histamine than others.  High histamine foods include fermented foods, citrus fruits, crustaceans, and more.

Our bodies can breakdown histamine.  Trouble arises when our bodies and our foods have levels of histamine that our bodies cannot clear fast enough and "our cup runneth over."

Our bodies need certain essential vitamins to breakdown histamine.  Vitamins like Vitamin C, and Cobalamine B12.  Vitamin D helps with immunoregulation.

Thiamine Vitamin B 1 helps Mast Cells to hold their wad and not release histamine.  Mast cells will degranulate and release excessive histamine when there is thiamine deficiency.  

These are all vitamins that are frequently low or deficient in newly diagnosed Celiacs.  Checking for nutritional deficiencies is part of proper follow up care for Celiac patients.  Celiacs are often low in essential vitamins and minerals across the board because of the damage done to the small intestine where nutrients are absorbed.  

Try the Autoimmune Protocol Diet and choose low histamine foods.  Supplement with the eight essential B vitamins, magnesium glycinate, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, and zinc.  

I followed the Low Histamine AIP diet and supplemented with extra Thiamine in addition to the nutrients listed above.  The extra Thiamine really helped with mast cell degranulation.  My reactions to high histamine foods became less quite quickly.  

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/aip-diet-autoimmune-protocol-diet

The book The Paleo Approach  by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne was extremely helpful.  She is a Celiac herself and designed the diet for herself and her family.  This diet has been scientifically shown to reduce inflammation and promote healing in the digestive tract.

For H. Pylori infection you will need to be tested by a doctor.

 Hope this helps!

Bronwyn W Apprentice
23 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

@Bronwyn W,

I don't believe a diagnosis is necessary for histamine intolerance.  

Our bodies can make histamine.  Mast cells (a type of immune cell) release histamine in our bodies in reaction to perceived invaders like bacteria, viruses, and gluten. 

Our food contains histamine.  Some foods contain higher levels of histamine than others.  High histamine foods include fermented foods, citrus fruits, crustaceans, and more.

Our bodies can breakdown histamine.  Trouble arises when our bodies and our foods have levels of histamine that our bodies cannot clear fast enough and "our cup runneth over."

Our bodies need certain essential vitamins to breakdown histamine.  Vitamins like Vitamin C, and Cobalamine B12.  Vitamin D helps with immunoregulation.

Thiamine Vitamin B 1 helps Mast Cells to hold their wad and not release histamine.  Mast cells will degranulate and release excessive histamine when there is thiamine deficiency.  

These are all vitamins that are frequently low or deficient in newly diagnosed Celiacs.  Checking for nutritional deficiencies is part of proper follow up care for Celiac patients.  Celiacs are often low in essential vitamins and minerals across the board because of the damage done to the small intestine where nutrients are absorbed.  

Try the Autoimmune Protocol Diet and choose low histamine foods.  Supplement with the eight essential B vitamins, magnesium glycinate, Vitamin D, Vitamin C, and zinc.  

I followed the Low Histamine AIP diet and supplemented with extra Thiamine in addition to the nutrients listed above.  The extra Thiamine really helped with mast cell degranulation.  My reactions to high histamine foods became less quite quickly.  

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/aip-diet-autoimmune-protocol-diet

The book The Paleo Approach  by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne was extremely helpful.  She is a Celiac herself and designed the diet for herself and her family.  This diet has been scientifically shown to reduce inflammation and promote healing in the digestive tract.

For H. Pylori infection you will need to be tested by a doctor.

 Hope this helps!

Fantastic 🙏🏻 Thank you so much for giving me this useful direction to pursue 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      129,272
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    arya
    Newest Member
    arya
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.2k
    • Total Posts
      71.6k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      It appears when ging out with friends to a restaurant that doesn't have Gluten free menu salads appear the safest bet worst case scenario. I also read CHick Fil a Grilled chicken is gluten free and you can ask for a gluten-free bun.
    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks so the blood test will tell if I need to take endoscopy to check damage done? The villi grows back over time. I am on elimination diet and don't feel like eating gluten for 6 weeks to take the blood test since I have vacations planned with my family and would love to feel good for the summer then after I will go for it. Eating 10g of gluten for 6 weeks I know I will have the running to bathroom moments again and cant probably deal with it easier during that time frame. I didn't realize cross contamination and have been really watching. Since I wnet for physical my blood was fine as far as vitamins etc. So I think I don't have malabsorption of nutrients vitamins.  I have been taking a protein shake from Revive for years to increase protein, fiber vitamins nutrient intake so I feel that has been helping. Thanks for the insight. Do you feel different when taking gluten-free cross contaminated? I have read about some items claim gluten free but may bother you when out at restaurants especially so I am trying to see if I encounter a cross contamination or a gluten product that said gluten-free. Thanks
    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks I figured that much as a dietician won't be of much help. Since summer is coming and in 6-8 weeks I will be on vacation with my family I think I will maintain my gluten free diet and not get tested yet as it appears eliminating glute is helping me and for a test to say your right isn't going to hep me much. Does eating gluten vs. cross contamination do you feel any different? Reason I ask is to see if I ate something cross contaminated or that had gluten. I have been using FODMAP to track everything I eat which is an excellent app tracks your feeling, bowel movements etc. I remember I could go out and eat french toast without any issues then somedays eat regular oatmeal and maybe right after go to the bathroom or 2hrs later need to go. Since elimination gluten from oatmeal much better. however in 3 weeks that I eliminated gluten I had 2 instances of diarrhea and unsure if contributed to increase in fiber intake. I am also lactose but have eliminated dairy for yeas as well.
    • Jane07
      im do have low zinc and iron i know. thanks for the feedback. maybe i should be off dairy i feel i need dairy for calcium  im also a vegetarian. 
    • knitty kitty
      @Jane07, welcome to the forum! Have you been checked for nutritional deficiencies?  Malabsorption of essential nutrients is common in Celiac Disease.  Supplementing with vitamins and minerals that are commonly low in the newly diagnosed can help immensely with recovery.   Vitamin D is frequently low.  Vitamin D helps regulate the immune system and calm it down.  The eight essential B vitamins help repair and maintain our body's health.  Magnesium, calcium, zinc and other minerals are necessary, too.  Vitamin C helps, as well.  Benfotiamine, A form of Thiamine, has been shown to promote intestinal healing. Are you still consuming dairy?  Eliminating dairy may bring some improvements.  Have you tried the low histamine Autoimmune Protocol diet?  Developed by a Celiac, Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, the AIP diet can improve symptoms while healing.  
×
×
  • Create New...