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https://www.tastingtable.com/1373953/kroger-recall-frozen-corn-veggies-illness-listeria/

 

Kroger just released this recall of frozen vegetables. I was just now feeling better from what I thought was a celiac reaction. I eat kroger frozen green beans and I’m instantly sick again.

I imagine listeria wouldn’t hit me that quickly? I’ve never had a celiac reaction to their frozen vegetables. But I’m thinking if it’s contaminated with listeria, it could be contaminated with gluten too?

Because this feels a lot like I was glutened. I appreciate any advice.

 

 


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knitty kitty Grand Master

This CDC article says it can take two weeks...

https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/symptoms.html

"Symptoms of invasive illness usually start within 2 weeks after eating food contaminated with Listeria."

I eat Kroger frozen green beans and have not had a reaction to them.  

Take some Thiamine.  Thiamine has antibacterial properties and can help fight infections.  

Thiamine and the other B vitamins help digest your food and turn it into energy.

StrongerThanCeliac Enthusiast
14 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

This CDC article says it can take two weeks...

https://www.cdc.gov/listeria/symptoms.html

"Symptoms of invasive illness usually start within 2 weeks after eating food contaminated with Listeria."

I eat Kroger frozen green beans and have not had a reaction to them.  

Take some Thiamine.  Thiamine has antibacterial properties and can help fight infections.  

Thiamine and the other B vitamins help digest your food and turn it into energy.

Thanks for the response! But since I reacted immediately and have my classic glutening symptoms, we could assume it’s not listeria?

knitty kitty Grand Master

@StrongerThanCeliac,

I'm thinking it might not be Listeria.  

You could have eaten something else along with the green beans that upset your system.  What else did you eat?  

High histamine foods can cause problems.  Nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers and eggplant) can cause leaky gut and histamine problems.  

Do you keep a food journal?

StrongerThanCeliac Enthusiast
On 8/24/2023 at 5:20 PM, knitty kitty said:

@StrongerThanCeliac,

I'm thinking it might not be Listeria.  

You could have eaten something else along with the green beans that upset your system.  What else did you eat?  

High histamine foods can cause problems.  Nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers and eggplant) can cause leaky gut and histamine problems.  

Do you keep a food journal?

I did for a long time. Basically follow a low FODMAP and I don’t get reactions from anything I eat at home. I’ve felt a lot better until this past month!

knitty kitty Grand Master

Are you feeling better?  Did your symptoms resolve?

StrongerThanCeliac Enthusiast
On 8/30/2023 at 5:48 PM, knitty kitty said:

Are you feeling better?  Did your symptoms resolve?

No, I don’t know whether I’m sick from that still or sick from something else. I called Kroger. They process everything on the same line but do acid rinses between each product. I’m not sure if this is safe?


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When I get sick from something I can't identify from my food journal, I revert back to the Autoimmune Paleo diet.  Grass fed beef, and fresh or frozen veggies.  No nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, and peppers), no nuts, no legumes, no pulses (beans and lentils), no rice, no grains, no dairy, no eggs.  Once my tummy has calmed down, then I can add back other foods one at a time with several days between.  I've found some foods are fine by themselves, but added together with another food, they can be problematic.  Combinations of high histamine foods tend to cause problems.  If I have fish, I'm careful not to have another high histamine food like eggs that day.  So a combination like tuna fish salad (made with both fish and egg) is not tolerated, but by themselves on different days is fine.  

Was your banana very ripe?  Over-ripened fruit can have high levels of histamine.

Here's more...

https://theceliacmd.com/the-low-histamine-diet-what-is-it-and-does-it-work/

StrongerThanCeliac Enthusiast
12 hours ago, knitty kitty said:

When I get sick from something I can't identify from my food journal, I revert back to the Autoimmune Paleo diet.  Grass fed beef, and fresh or frozen veggies.  No nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, and peppers), no nuts, no legumes, no pulses (beans and lentils), no rice, no grains, no dairy, no eggs.  Once my tummy has calmed down, then I can add back other foods one at a time with several days between.  I've found some foods are fine by themselves, but added together with another food, they can be problematic.  Combinations of high histamine foods tend to cause problems.  If I have fish, I'm careful not to have another high histamine food like eggs that day.  So a combination like tuna fish salad (made with both fish and egg) is not tolerated, but by themselves on different days is fine.  

Was your banana very ripe?  Over-ripened fruit can have high levels of histamine.

Here's more...

https://theceliacmd.com/the-low-histamine-diet-what-is-it-and-does-it-work/

I’ve been eating extremely healthy. But I wonder if the acid rinses are enough to kill gluten on the line. 

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