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Kaatzal
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I am getting very confused with the process of getting a diagnosis of potentially coeliac disease.

I have been having all of the symptoms associated with coeliac disease so I cut out gluten and saw an improvement. I have visited a gastroenterologist and he tested me for genes that might lead to coeliac disease. I have tested positive for one of these genes (he hasn’t specified which). 

I had a blood test and to check for coeliac disease and it tested negative but I had stopped eating gluten for a few weeks before this test. So this test was ruled unreliable.

However, a few years ago I was tested for coeliac disease whilst I was eating gluten (had no symptoms at this time) and the test was negative. Due to the result of this test, the gastroenterologist is saying that I definitely do not have coeliac disease as he believes it would have tested positive even though I wasn’t having symptoms. 

I have been reading papers and information on the Coeliac U.K. website and it says that Coeliac disease can be developed at any time. This seems to be contradicting information.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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plumbago Experienced
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The only way to reliably know if you have active disease is to go back to eating gluten, wait, and then repeat the comprehensive celiac panel.

From NHS Inform:

Before a blood test is taken, it's important that you eat gluten-containing foods in more than one meal every day for at least 6 weeks before the test. Remember to eat a normal gluten diet for 6 weeks before any tests.

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18 minutes ago, Kaatzal said:

the gastroenterologist is saying that I definitely do not have coeliac disease as he believes it would have tested positive even though I wasn’t having symptoms. 

He is wrong.  It is not uncommon for it to take 10 or more years to be diagnosed with misdiagnoses of other diseases along the way.

"To make matters more challenging, celiac symptoms can also mimic symptoms of other diseases, such as anemia, Crohns disease, gastric ulcers, irritable bowel, parasitic infection, even various skin disorders or nervous conditions."

 

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The onset of celiac disease can happen at any stage of life. Before onset you will possess the genetic potential but all other tests will be negative.

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      By knitty kitty · Posted

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    • trents
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      By trents · Posted

      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @McKinleyWY! There currently is no testing for celiac disease that does not require you to have been consuming generous amounts of gluten (at least 10g daily, about the amount in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for at least two weeks and, to be certain of accurate testing, longer than that. This applies to both phases of testing, the blood antibody tests and the endoscopy with biopsy.  There is the option of genetic testing to see if you have one or both of the two genes known to provide the potential to develop celiac disease. It is not really a diagnostic measure, however, as 30-40% of the general population has one or both of these genes whereas only about 1% of the general population actually develops celiac disease. But genetic testing is valuable as a rule out measure. If you don't have either of the genes, it is highly unlikely that you can have celiac disease. Having said all that, even if you don't have celiac disease you can have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which shares many of the same symptoms as celiac disease but does not involve and autoimmune reaction that damages the lining of the small bowel as does celiac disease. Both conditions call for the complete elimination of gluten from the diet. I hope this brings some clarity to your questions.
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      By McKinleyWY · Posted

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