Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Confused lab results


Mlsilva

Recommended Posts

Mlsilva Newbie

My daughters lab results 

Transglutaminase IgAValue

<1.0

Value Interpretation

<15.0 Antibody not detected

> or = 15.0 Antibody detected

IgA 73

No serological evidence for celiac disease is present. tTg may normalize in individuals with celiac disease who maintain a gluten free diet. If high suspicion of celiac disease, consider HLA DQ2 and DQ8 testing to rule out celiac disease


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



trents Grand Master

Welcome to the forum, @Mlsilva!

By any chance, had your daughter already started the gluten free diet before the celiac blood antibody testing was done or was she cutting back on wheat-based foods?

What is normal range for IgA used by the lab who did the analysis? Your daughter's score on that, what we call "total IGA" is 73 but you did not give a range for what is normal. If total IGA is low, it can cause false negatives in individual IGA tests. Total IGA is not in and of itself a diagnostic test for celiac disease but a low total IGA value can skew the ones that are.

How old is your daughter? The one test that was run on her for celiac disease per se was the tTG-IgA for which she scored under 1. That is them most common single test that physicians run when testing for celiac disease but it is not as reliable for children as it is for adults because children have immature immune systems.

Mlsilva Newbie

We've cut back a bit but not really she still has whole wheat bread with lunch and previous of this blood work she had a wake up wrap from dunkin. The normal range is 31-180. She is 7 years old.

trents Grand Master

At 7 years old I would not trust the results of the tTG-IGA test alone.

The one shot of Dunkin Wakeup Wrap before the blood draw for antibody testing would have no impact on results. Perhaps explaining what the antibody testing is measuring would help you understand all this better.

For a person with celiac disease, the consumption of gluten triggers an autoimmune response in the lining of the small bowel. The immune system mistakenly interprets gluten as an invader and marshals defenders called antibodies to the attack area . These antibodies fight against the gluten invader and this causes inflammation in the lining of the small bowel every time gluten is consumed. Over time (months to years) this damages the lining of the small bowel and eventually results in vitamin and mineral deficiency related health problems since this area of the intestinal track is where all of our nutrition is absorbed. Celiac antibody testing measures the levels of certain antibodies connected with celiac disease. It takes time (weeks to months) for these antibodies to build up to measurable levels. So eating a gluten heavy meal immediately before testing will have no real impact on antibody levels. However, eating generous daily amounts of gluten weeks or months ahead of the testing will get antibody levels up to measurable amounts. So, for antibody test results to be reliable, your daughter would need to be eating the gluten equivalent of about 4 slices of bread (white or whole wheat, makes no difference) daily for three weeks leading up to the day of testing. And the gluten can be consumed through pasta or any wheat product, not just loaf bread. The four slices is just an amount guideline. We call this a "gluten challenge."

The other thing, as I have already mentioned, is the questionable reliability of the tTG-IGA test on children her age. There are other tests that should be run at her age that often catch celiac disease in children that the tTG-IGA misses. 

So, here is what I would recommend:

1. Undertake a rigorous gluten challenge as outlined above. There is a question in my mind as to whether she was consuming enough gluten during the weeks/months leading up to her original testing blood draw in order to produce reliable results.

2. Get her retested for celiac antibodies. Ask for the following tests: Total IGA, tTG-IGA, DGP-IGA and DGP-IGG. The last two are ones you haven't had run yet.

 

Here is a primer for understanding celiac disease antibody testing: 

Genetic testing for HLA DQ2 and HLA DQ2 is a good idea to establish whether or not your daughter has the potential to develop celiac disease. It cannot be used to diagnose for celiac disease since 40% of the population carry one or both of these genes.

There is also the possibility she has NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) which shares many of the same symptoms with celiac disease but for which there is no test. Celiac disease must first be ruled out. NCGS is 10x mor common than celiac disease. Some experts believe NCGS can be a precursor to celiac disease.

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      126,250
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Wrensmith
    Newest Member
    Wrensmith
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      120.9k
    • Total Posts
      69.3k

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Juliana82
      Does anyone have bleeding after eating gluten? You can still have celiac disease with negative blood test results, although it's not very common:  Clinical and genetic profile of patients with seronegative coeliac disease: the natural history and response to gluten-free diet: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606118/  Seronegative Celiac Disease - A Challenging Case: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9441776/  Enteropathies with villous atrophy but negative coeliac serology in adults: current issues: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34764141/   
    • Wheatwacked
      vitamin D levels in obsessive-compulsive disorder "The number of participants with vitamin D insufficient ... and vitamin D deficiency ... in the OCD group was statistically significantly higher than the control group... and also the number of participants whose vitamin D levels were in the normal range ... in the OCD group was statistically significantly lower than the control group." Low vitamin D iscommon in Celiac Disease patients. Also no lithium in drinking water (bottled water) or in areas with low ground water Lithium contributes to anxiety. Association between naturally occurring lithium in drinking water and suicide rates The EPA calculated a provisional oral reference dose (p-RfD) of 2 μg/kg-day using the Provisional Peer-Reviewed Toxicity Value   https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2023-11/ucmr5-technical-fact-sheet-lithium-in-drinking-water.pdf Should we all take a bit of lithium?! Raising my vitamin D to 80 ng/ml and taking 5 mg a day of Lithium Orotate for a few month helped me.
    • Wheatwacked
      After 3 months without gluten he will have healed and his blood tests will be negative. That does not mean "not celiac, ok to eat wheat, rye and barley again.  It does mean the diet is working.  Many of those recently diagnosed with Celiac Disease are often deficient in vitamin D and other vitamins and minerals.  It's a side effect called Malabsorption.  Get his blood checked for 25(OH)D level to be sure.
    • Wheatwacked
      Yeah, but that's probably not where you want to eat, anyway.
    • BoiseNic
      Anyone try this? No matter what the brand, probiotics have ALWAYS made me break out bad. I am hesitant to try this simply for that fact, but I ordered a 3 month supply. Any input would be appreciated. Wish me luck.
×
×
  • Create New...