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I read the forum's questions, answers and contributions with surprise. Should we ónly concentrate on gluten free and disregard the rest of our bodies' needs? We should look after ourselves wholelisticly, to improve our total immune system. It is not only about going gluten free. What about eating balanced and Nutritious, without too much junk food and drinks. Colorants, flavorants and preservatives? We also need Exercise, clean Water, Sunshine, Temperance (balance & self-control), fresh Air, Rest, Trust in the Maker of our bodies?

Just wondering.....


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7 hours ago, Eldene said:

I read the forum's questions, answers and contributions with surprise. Should we ónly concentrate on gluten free and disregard the rest of our bodies' needs? We should look after ourselves wholelisticly, to improve our total immune system. It is not only about going gluten free. What about eating balanced and Nutritious, without too much junk food and drinks. Colorants, flavorants and preservatives? We also need Exercise, clean Water, Sunshine, Temperance (balance & self-control), fresh Air, Rest, Trust in the Maker of our bodies?

Just wondering.....

Eldene, I found this group back in 2009 when my 4th Dermatologist in 30 years diagnosed me with dermatitis herpetiformis 2 weeks after my first visit.  This group taught me how to read labels and understand the evils that lurk within.  I still visit this group to check on whether medications contain gluten and other updates, as well as chiming in here or there.  I go to other groups for other unrelated health questions, spiritual needs, political philosophies and so fourth.   

Mari Contributor

Hi Eldene,

Your message came to me from the Coping with Celiac Disease forum at Celiac.com. When I read a message here from a person having difficulty with gluten intolerance I don't know any more about them that what they wrote. I will do my best to reply to their questions but will not ask about their lifestyle. Giving unsolicited advice has consequences. You may be convinced that you know enough to give advice in that area but it may not be right for the person following that advice. 

Beverage Rising Star

I agree, gluten free does not mean good for you.  If you look at the labels of "gluten free" things like bread, pasta, etc., most are full of starches and gums and all kinds of refined things that we have been told for decades to not eat.

I just try to eat real food, aka whole food, meat and veggies. I started a garden a few years ago to grow veggies using 4 watering troughs as raised beds, and added 2 arches trellises using hog panels. I jam a ton of stuff in them and provide veggies for a good part of the year for 2 people. That's all grown organic.

I make batches of food and freeze it, so I'm not always cooking a full dinner from scratch.  I tried a fantastic marinade I made from a bunch of my herbs, marinated extra chicken in it and divided that up into 3 containers for other nights. I'll make mexican beans or chickpeas from dried beans (gluten free from nuts.com), cook a big batch and freeze in smaller portions.

Meat we get organic. Sometimes I do want pasta or a sandwich, but it's rare, and try for things without the inflammatory seed oils and all the starchy gummy stuff, but it's hard to find. 

I feel if you eat whole food for most of the time, a few indulgences in some gluten free stuff is ok.

Scott Adams Grand Master

@Eldene, if you run some searches here you will find many posts on nutrition, junk food, etc., so these are definitely topics of discussion here as well. Many of our articles also cover different topics, for example we've done articles on junk food, lectins, oxalates, etc. Here is a search of Celiac.com for "junk food":

https://www.celiac.com/search/?q="junk food"&quick=1&updated_after=any&sortby=relevancy 

Eldene Contributor
On 8/8/2024 at 5:15 AM, Mari said:

Hi Eldene,

Your message came to me from the Coping with Celiac Disease forum at Celiac.com. When I read a message here from a person having difficulty with gluten intolerance I don't know any more about them that what they wrote. I will do my best to reply to their questions but will not ask about their lifestyle. Giving unsolicited advice has consequences. You may be convinced that you know enough to give advice in that area but it may not be right for the person following that advice. 

I agree. I did not opt to give advice on lifestyle, unless someone asks. My research sources are scientifically proven and I get my info from a Professor, Naturopath, Docters, health trained Registered Nurses etc. 👍

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