Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

How much testing is performed on certified gluten free products?


RMJ

Recommended Posts

RMJ Mentor

It has already been discussed in these forums that the GFCO certified products use step down testing, meaning that not every lot of product is tested for gluten. In some cases, after enough passing results, products only need to be tested once each quarter! Manufacturing facilities are supposed to be audited annually.

GFCO Step down testing - see pages 22-23

What about other certifying organizations? The information I can find online for the Gluten Free Food Program, endorsed by the National Celiac Association, only says that companies must “submit one  gluten test of each product to be certified” prior to certification. Is that just one test on one lot?  What about ongoing testing after certification? How often are manufacturing facilities audited?

Gluten Free Food Program guide to finished product testing for certification

Are these certifying organizations set up primarily for the benefit of the celiac consumer, or for the marketing departments of the companies selling gluten free products?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



RMJ Mentor

Here is information about another certifying organization, NSF.  If one scrolls to the bullets in the NSF Gluten-Free certification section, it looks like each lot is tested for gluten. Their limit is 15ppm, which is below FDA requirements but higher than some other certifying organizations.

NSF

Scott Adams Grand Master

Great questions, and maybe another topic for an article! The GFCO has become the standard, but could probably be greatly improved, but I've not looked into the standards of other organizations like SCS Global, NCA, and NSF. 

RMJ Mentor

Here is some information on SCS.  It says they will prescribe a testing schedule, but doesn’t say how they determine the schedule.

SCS gluten free certification overview

This mentions auditor supervised testing:

SCS certification

Scott Adams Grand Master

I like the idea of the company not performing the testing, which seems like a huge conflict of interest to me.

GardeningForHealth Enthusiast

At this point I would also say that any gluten laboratory testing needs to not be bound by an NDA and must be allowed to be publicly released to anyone who requests it.

RMJ Mentor

 

 

3 hours ago, GardeningForHealth said:

At this point I would also say that any gluten laboratory testing needs to not be bound by an NDA and must be allowed to be publicly released to anyone who requests it.

That may be too extreme, it would probably keep companies from testing! Pharmaceutical companies don’t release their CoAs to anyone who asks.

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



RMJ Mentor

I understand that evaluation of processes, procedures and raw materials is important.  In the pharmaceutical industry where I worked for over 40 years there is a saying that one can’t test quality into a product at the end.  However, I think any reasonable consumer would think that if a product is labeled as certified gluten free, that each lot of product would actually be tested for gluten. That’s what bothers me the most. Consumers might also expect that testing to be independent, done by the certifying body.  It would be interesting to do a poll to see what consumer’s expectations are.

GardeningForHealth Enthusiast
6 minutes ago, RMJ said:

 

 

That may be too extreme, it would probably keep companies from testing! Pharmaceutical companies don’t release their CoAs to anyone who asks.

 

I was just reading through USDA recalls today; the recalls at this link publicly call out the name of the company, what is being recalled, and why. This is the kind of transparency needed. We do not say that this USDA recall database is too extreme. Among many reasons why products may end up being recalled, undeclared wheat in the product is one reason. However, I noticed that currently, the policy of the USDA seems to be more reactive than proactive when it comes to undeclared allergens. It most cases it seems that we have to wait until people are exposed to find out about the problem.

I would rather that companies who do not test their finished products do not declare their products gluten free at all. This would eliminate gluten exposures that happen from cross-contamination, which is where the gap in regulatory enforcement seems to be right now. There may be more cross contamination going on than we realize at this point, and current FDA requirements for gluten-free labeling are very lax; no testing is required to declare the products gluten-free.

Companies could instead have a separate product line that they put a gluten-free label on, and test these products, and charge more for them--but make their gluten tests available to anyone who asks for them. It serves no one to hide gluten testing and this should not be privileged information. If companies stopped labeling "gluten-free" out of fear of being caught, then other companies would see a market opportunity and fill the void.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Shellly posted a topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      0

      New labs are now very elevated

    2. - Scott Adams replied to Elena1234's topic in Gluten-Free Restaurants
      3

      Is Cracker Barrel`s gluten-free menu safe for kids with celiac disease?

    3. - trents replied to Elena1234's topic in Gluten-Free Restaurants
      3

      Is Cracker Barrel`s gluten-free menu safe for kids with celiac disease?

    4. - Russ H replied to Elena1234's topic in Gluten-Free Restaurants
      3

      Is Cracker Barrel`s gluten-free menu safe for kids with celiac disease?

    5. - Elena1234 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Restaurants
      3

      Is Cracker Barrel`s gluten-free menu safe for kids with celiac disease?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,167
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Lindyloo590
    Newest Member
    Lindyloo590
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Shellly
      Hello, I was very stick,  with flu like symptoms, but my virus panel came back negative and we couldn’t figure out what’s going on. The doctor then added a celiac panel.  Has anyone ever had such a dramatic change?  What are the odds this is true celiac I am going to have an endoscopy, but it’s expensive and I just feel like why can’t the labs be enough? 
    • Scott Adams
      Eating out in general is full of risks, but this article may help:  
    • trents
      This kind of question is always difficult to give a definitive answer to because of so many variables. One such variable is the sensitivity of the individual celiac to small amounts of gluten cross contamination. An amount that causes a reaction in one celiac many not in another, or at least not be discernable which, of course, does not exactly equate to being "safe".
    • Russ H
      I don't live in the US, but based on this thread, I wouldn't risk it:   https://www.reddit.com/r/glutenfree/comments/1n2ehw8/cracker_barrel/   This app is helpful: https://www.findmeglutenfree.com/
    • Elena1234
      I see that Cracker Barrel restaurants have a gluten free menu (not all locations, but one confirmed that they do). I was wondering if it is safe for my 5 year old son with celiac disease? 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.