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Can celiac cause widespread pain??

Paula Andrews
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Paula Andrews Newbie
Paula Andrews
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Hi! Did anyone experience severe body aches prior to being diagnosed?  Last year I suddenly experienced widespread pain, completely unexplained. After numerous tests with normal results I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in August and started taking Cymbalta, which helped about 80%. Now other than pain, I did not have any additional fibromyalgia symptoms. 

  In the following months I started experiencing diarrhea, to the point where it was constant. In January I was diagnosed with celiac disease and microscopic colitis after having an endoscopy/colonoscopy. I've been gluten-free since that day and recently my pain level has dropped to ZERO.  I'm starting to wonder if I even have fibromyalgia, or if all of my symptoms were celiac and colitis.  I've seen several doctors and no one suggested this, but from what I'm reading it sounds possible.  The fact that I was diagnosed with two different diseases within a few months also seems odd. Has anyone else experienced all-over body aches with celiac?  And if so did the pain end after eliminating gluten?  Unfortunately I don't know anyone who has either celiac or fibromyalgia to talk to.

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Scott Adams Grand Master
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Untreated celiac disease is associated with arthritis and other autoimmune diseases which can cause such pain. These categories have research articles on this topic:

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/fibromyalgia-and-celiac-disease/

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/arthritis-and-celiac-disease/

Levi Apprentice
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1 hour ago, Scott Adams said:

Untreated celiac disease is associated with arthritis and other autoimmune diseases which can cause such pain. These categories have research articles on this topic:

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/fibromyalgia-and-celiac-disease/

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/arthritis-and-celiac-disease/

You can add Axonal Peripheral Neuropathy, Bone and Joints degeneration, Cataracts, Hypothyroidism, Gluten Bumps for those of us with dermatitis herpetiformis, and Malabsorption which contributes to so many other complications. Sadly though, other than gluten bumps all the aforementioned and many other autoimmune diseases, eventually, can and will take its toll on the body, even while maintaining 100% gluten free. Coeliac, just like all Autoimmune Diseases beget autoimmune diseases. It’s in the cards, and inevitable, just a matter of time when. I’m living Proof! 

Scott Adams Grand Master
Scott Adams
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We have those as well:

https://www.celiac.com/celiac-disease/celiac-disease-amp-related-diseases-and-disorders/

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