Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Rachel--24]

Do you know if people can get histamine reactions to environmental things like dust, mold, and animal hair?

Carrie,

You can get histamine reactions to any allergen or irritant. Anything the immune system sees as "foreign" or "bad" can trigger a release of histmaine.

OOOPS...

This is a duplicate post.....please see above post. :lol:

BTW...I love your new avatar!

Did you have your wedding yet?

[DingoGirl]

Hmm... I cant say no to that. It does become much harder to focus (err harder then normal at least... I always have focus issues) I think *sometimes* I gets ummm dots? static? or somthing like that in my vision.

these things are sounding like migraine but I haven't heard anyone mention intense head pain yet....

edit - NOTE TO SELF - - need to read entire thread before I get excited and post...silent migraines? something new...always learning something new here.....

[VydorScope]

If its migranes why so often?

[Camille'sBigSister]

Lord have mercy!!! I'm desperately trying to catch up! I didn't get to sleep until 7 o'clock this morning (ET), thanks to having been "oatmealed." Never again!

Thank God Andrea is okay. You are so clever, Celia! In my humble opinion, you and Susan would make a fantastic comedy team. You're both so adorably goofy, and I love it!

Jeny, welcome to Rachelville! And a vet to boot! Would you take a look at Carmine, the Mother Goose? She's concerned about her down; seems it's looking a bit scruffy lately. God bless the US Army!

Rachel, Madame President, may I suggest a statue of Vincent be erected in our town square? Service above and beyond the call of duty, don't you know.

Nikki, you are absolutely correct. Ladies don't sweat; they perspire. Or as we say here in the South, they "glow."

Robbin, I'm worried about your eyes! After my cataract surgeries (only one at a time), I used the prednisone drops in gradually decreasing amounts. My surgeon said that was to prevent the eyes from becoming addicted to the steroids. Would you consider going to an ultra-specialist eye surgeon for a consultation? If I were you, I would!!!

Another thing, Robbin: You're a girl after my own heart! I've been preaching about the sad state of affairs in the fruit and veggie industry for eons! And it is an industry now. I'm a lot older than the rest of y'all in R'ville, and I remember how delicious fruit and veggies used to be, before growers began hybridizing them and treating them with a lot of crap so they would have a long shipping life!!! Even organically grown fruit and veggies used to taste better than they do now. I attribute that to the widespread use of Auxigro.

There's another factor in there too. When people started turning to organically grown produce, they were willing to spend more for them, and to drive miles and miles to find them. (I was one of those people.) I only trusted the foods, fresh or canned, if they were certified as organic under the seal of approval of the state of California. In the beginning, organic produce came from small farms, grown by dedicated, forward-seeing farmers. (My next paragraph is purely conjectural.)

Well, suddenly the huge agricultural conglomerates began to sit up and take notice: "Hey, there's money to be made here!" So their lobbies got to work! Next thing I know, the FDA (I think they're the guilty party.) comes out with regulations governing the certification of all organic produce and meat. These regulations are far less stringent than those adhered to by the California standards. Voila! The agricultural conglomerates were once again in charge! THEN ALONG CAME AUXIGRO!!!!! At this point, I surmise, the small farmers were forced to throw up their hands and surrender to Auxigro in order to increase crop yield. Auxigro or die. We are being poisoned by the very foods we need to sustain our bodies.

Sorry. I went off on a tangent again.

Julie, I had forgotten about the gliadin in oats. See first paragraph. I'm adding your info about adrenal glands to all the histamine stuff in my search for an answer to the what and why of my family history.

As for the fish catching and gutting, we are on the ocean, you know. And we have a fresh-water stream, fed by our mountain spring.

Donna, hurry up and finish that Inflammation Syndrome book, so you can share with us.

Rachel, thanks for all the histamine research! I'm trying to figure out which came first - the histamine or the inflammation, or possibly the adrenal problem. My sisters and I aren't the only family members with histamine-related problems. The one thing I am absolutely positive about is that it's inherited; it's genetic. I can trace it only as far back as my maternal grandfather, but what is IT? I'm with you, Madame President; I want to find the exact IT - the core, the root cause.

You see, my life-long use of antihistamines isn't the only difference between my sisters and me that probably prevented my getting sick years ago. I've always been very, very, very peculiar about food. Don't like bread or meat (except pork), and many things on the histamine list; never, ever eaten fast food; smell everything before I eat it; refuse to eat leftovers; never, ever used pre-mixed anything; read all labels; peel or skin all produce if it's peelable or skinable; and the list goes on and on. My sisters have always joked about me. They say I'm just like Papaw (that maternal grandfather). But when I come to town for a visit, and buy tons of good stuff at a market in Midtown Memphis, my whole damn family can hardly wait to enjoy the feasts.

I'm probably so far behind you all now, it will take me all night to catch up; so I shall just sit down and shut up.

Cissie

I was going to ask who the hell are Brad and Angelina, but after reading other posts, I gather they have something to do with Hollywood and acting.

[jerseyangel]

Please help me?

I dunno how to explain this but this happens maybe 1 or 2 itmes a week, my head gets umm tingly, not all over, but like a band that runs from one ear around the back to the other ear. I think at least, its hard to isolate. I can not figure it out. Dunno what trips it, or stops it or nuting. Be going on for years now...

Any ideas?

I get a feeling similar to this, but I think it originaly began because of the Celiac. In the year before my diagnosis, I had a pins and needles feeling on my left side especially. My head, left side of my face, arm and both legs. I would describe it as somewhere between numb and tingling. When I first went gluten-free, it got so pronounced on the left side that I called my doctor on a Friday night! I was pretty scared. It has

subsided somewhat over this past year, but I do still have it in my face, and head sometimes. Not much help, I know. But when I get it now, I don't notice a trigger, either. Strange.

[rinne]

Where did I get the idea low blood pressure was on the list? I realized when I went to get this that in fact I had been looking at the signs of low adrenal function and low blood pressure wasn't on it either.

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Some Signs of High Histamine

The more of the following that apply to you the more likely you are to be a high-histamine type.

High histamine types tend to:

• Cry easily <----------not until I got sick

• Hear their pulse in their head on the pillow at night <----------I've experienced this my whole life

• Itch and scratch a lot <-----yup

• Have seasonal allergies <-------nope

• Have a low pain threshold with regular headaches and other aches and pains <----------yup

• Produce excessive mucous <---------yup

• Feel nauseous easily <----------yup

• Have a high sex drive and easy orgasm <----------no comment

• Experience inner tension or ‘driven’ feelings <----------yeah....I've always had this "feeling"

• Have episodes of ‘blank mind’ <---------yup

• Suffer with depression and sometimes suicidal thoughts <-----really bad before diet changes

• Have abnormal fears, compulsions, rituals <-------nope

• Be a light sleeper or experience severe insomnia <--------I'm a light sleeper

• Appear to tolerate a lot of alcohol or drugs <------Hmmm...maybe this is why I could always drink and drink and barely get a buzz going!! How can a 105 lb. woman be able to drink the same as a 200 lb. man??

• Have a fast metabolism with high body temperature. <---------big time until they nuked my thyroid

• Be of lean build with little body hair <---------I'm lean but I have normal amounts of body hair

• Have a large nose or ears, long fingers and toes (and often a longer second toe than the first) <------nope...all my parts are normal size

• Have excellent teeth <--------yup

I don't think I started out as a high histamine type but I feel like this illness is taking me in that direction.

[jerseyangel]

I "knew" I had a histimine problem years ago--just didn't recigonize it as such. Can't believe how all this stuff is connected.

[DingoGirl]

Celia - - - easy girl, don't spinach.....hey, Cissie things we're adorably funny and we could be a COMEDY TEAM!!!

Well guess what, I'd like to nominate the adorable Cissie as our town matriarch....love your thoughtful posts, darlin.....I got oatmealed too, had to knock that out of the diet.....I really hope you get some sleep tonight!

I don't even have TIME right now to read the new histamine science lecture pages! Dang, you guys are always onto something new, brilliant, mad scientists that you are.....we're 200 pages, I say by page 500 we'll have it all figured out, and we will feel fabulous, all of us!!

but I DO have a question.....where do you buy the Blue Diamond Nut Thins? I am getting a little tired of Trader Joe's savory thins.....

heading out soon. back for more science later. How will I catch up??

[Rachel--24]

I was going to ask who the hell are Brad and Angelina, but after reading other posts, I gather they have something to do with Hollywood and acting.

I need to know...are you serious about this??

Awesome post Cissie!!

You crack me up. Very wise too.

Yes...we should most definately have a statue of Vincent...our recognized "Rachelville HERO". We cant forget those who have went above and beyond to help a fellow Celiac!! Great idea Cissie.

About the Auxigro....I just plain hate it!

I still cant get over all the allergies in your family.....yes, I agree genetics have a huge role in this. Thats what I've been telling my Mom for awhile now.

No wonder she doesnt mind if I sleep in the garage.

[jerseyangel]

Hey Susan--I don't eat them, but I've seen the Blue Diamond Thins at Whole Foods. Have a good time tonight

[DingoGirl]

Oh oh can I be the dummy that sits on your lap?

to quote you,

OHHH GAAAAWDD and now I almost spinached myself..... or at least peed my pants...

Rachel, I think Cissie is too busy reading poetic and literary tomes to pay attention to Hollywood gossip, but WOW, we have a human who doesn't know who Brangelina is!! Incredible!

[Camille'sBigSister]

Thanks for explaining Rachel. I was just hoping that may help. My most recent food allergy test (blood test) only tested positive for milk allergy, but I have tested positive to wheat and yeast allergy on a skin prick test. I just got all my results from the past faxed to me this week from my doctors office. It seems as though I reacted to dairy, but I have to have more testing done to make sure. Do you know if people can get histamine reactions to environmental things like dust, mold, and animal hair?

OMG, YES!!!!! Mold is especially bad! If you react to environmental molds, NEVER eat bleu cheese!!!!! And NEVER let a doctor give you penicillin!!!!! You could go into anaphylactic (I think that's the correct word.) shock. Many years ago I almost died from a penicillin shot.

Cissie

[Rachel--24]

I don't even have TIME right now to read the new histamine science lecture pages!

back for more science later. How will I catch up??

ROFLMAO!!

How dare you scoot out of here without having to read the lessons of the day!!

I see how you are.

[Rachel--24]

Rinne,

Low blood pressure is on the list. Its a different list from the one you posted. Its a few pages back...I'd try to locate it it but my computer is sooooo slow. Its making me crazy....and I cant keep up.

[jerseyangel]

I have to add... Cissi ... you have such a wonderful poetic way of writing... I love it!!

I do have such a good time on here... and hope my little funnies don't offend anyone... you know I truely love you all and all your wisdom!

Celia--You could never offend! You don't have it in you

[Rachel--24]

I have to add... Cissi ... you have such a wonderful poetic way of writing... I love it!!

Yes....I agree...I love reading Cissi's posts!!

Her words just flow and capture me.

We have someone else here who writes like that. Cant remember who it is now??

[Rachel--24]

Rachel, I think Cissie is too busy reading poetic and literary tomes to pay attention to Hollywood gossip, but WOW, we have a human who doesn't know who Brangelina is!! Incredible!

Wow...that truelly is amazing.

Will we get "People" in Rachelville?? Are we gonna be totally lost on all the gossip? I think I may need to smuggle some mags. in from my endeavors over the hill to the Over-The-Mountain-Mall.

[jerseyangel]

Yep--I need my gossip!

[Rachel--24]

Holy Cow....we just passed 200 pages.

And still...not a single balloon has dropped for us.

[rinne]

(My next paragraph is purely conjectural.)

Well, suddenly the huge agricultural conglomerates began to sit up and take notice: "Hey, there's money to be made here!" So their lobbies got to work! Next thing I know, the FDA (I think they're the guilty party.) comes out with regulations governing the certification of all organic produce and meat. These regulations are far less stringent than those adhered to by the California standards. Voila! The agricultural conglomerates were once again in charge! THEN ALONG CAME AUXIGRO!!!!! At this point, I surmise, the small farmers were forced to throw up their hands and surrender to Auxigro in order to increase crop yield. Auxigro or die. We are being poisoned by the very foods we need to sustain our bodies.

Cissi, well said. I was involved with an Organic Producer's group when organic producers were working towards establishing standards for inspection. I was the little voice in the corner saying this is not a good idea, set up standards, increase profits and the end will be big business buying up organics and changing the standards to suit themselves. That is precisely what has happened. I think we may have to learn to support local producers, live more simply and have gardens or be part of community gardens.

I've always been very choosy about my food, don't eat fast food, last golden arch experience was close to twenty years ago and even back then I hardly ever ate an fast food. Most of my twenties in California I ate organic food, in my thirties we had a farm and grew much of our food, ran an organic juice bar deli in my forties and now am part of an organic food co-op. I love food.

Feeling wild and reckless tonight, just finished a pint of ice-cream, I haven't had any dairy in about 6 weeks so we will see how I do, I blame Rachel , all that raving about ice-cream drove me to it. Besides it was like 32 degrees, for you that would be 32 x 2 + 28 = 92 degrees with humidity. I have spent most of the day hiding in the coolness of our little house with its' window shaker blasting away.

[Camille'sBigSister]

Gaaawwwssshhh, guys (non-roseaca blushing). You've made my evening!

Cissie

[Daxin]

Vincent, Migranes are caused by the constriction of blood the arteries on you skull. This lack of blood and o2 is what causes the auras and tinitis (ringing in teh ears). Then once the body reacts to this, and the bloose vessels begin to dialate again, the blood rushing back into your head is finally what causes all the pain and suffering. There is more in between all this, but that is the jist of it.

Susan, I get the Blue Diamond Nut Thins at the whole food store here called "Nutters" They come in almond AND pecan. They are a lot like rice thins, but taste a bit better.

Rachel, you are making me doubt my own allergists report. I have an appointment with a NEW allergist in two weeks, and will ask him about all this. In that larege list of symptoms, I have most of them!

I think by the time Rachelville gets up to speed, we'll all have medical degrees. I have learned more in the last week about allergies, histamine, headaches etc than I did in college biology classes.

Time to sign of for tonight, but I look forward to learning more from you all tomorrow.

[VydorScope]

I feel so sorry for how far behind AndreaB is gonna be....

[Green12]

The lists I've seen for low histamine seem fairly similar.

Look at this list:Open Original Shared Link

I guess there is just some descrepency with a few fruits...

Vincent, Migranes are caused by the constriction of blood the arteries on you skull. This lack of blood and o2 is what causes the auras and tinitis (ringing in teh ears). Then once the body reacts to this, and the bloose vessels begin to dialate again, the blood rushing back into your head is finally what causes all the pain and suffering. There is more in between all this, but that is the jist of it.

Time to sign of for tonight, but I look forward to learning more from you all tomorrow.

Have a good evening Ryan!

Vincent, there is a connection between migraines and msg, another one of the topics we have discussed somewhere in the last 200 pages

Cissi, well said. I was involved with an Organic Producer's group when organic producers were working towards establishing standards for inspection. I was the little voice in the corner saying this is not a good idea, set up standards, increase profits and the end will be big business buying up organics and changing the standards to suit themselves. That is precisely what has happened. I think we may have to learn to support local producers, live more simply and have gardens or be part of community gardens.

I've always been very choosy about my food, don't eat fast food, last golden arch experience was close to twenty years ago and even back then I hardly ever ate an fast food. Most of my twenties in California I ate organic food, in my thirties we had a farm and grew much of our food, ran an organic juice bar deli in my forties and now am part of an organic food co-op. I love food.

Feeling wild and reckless tonight, just finished a pint of ice-cream, I haven't had any dairy in about 6 weeks so we will see how I do, I blame Rachel , all that raving about ice-cream drove me to it. Besides it was like 32 degrees, for you that would be 32 x 2 + 28 = 92 degrees with humidity. I have spent most of the day hiding in the coolness of our little house with its' window shaker blasting away.

rinne, I also am disappointed with the way "health" food has been regulated. I have always been really choosy about my food as well, no fast food, etc, and shopping at a health food store for me was a big part of that. I have noticed that they have really changed, they have become more corporate and it's not really about helath anymore.

I hope the ice cream sits well with you

[Rachel--24]

I think by the time Rachelville gets up to speed, we'll all have medical degrees. I have learned more in the last week about allergies, histamine, headaches etc than I did in college biology classes.

YAY Ryan,

Thats what this thread is all about....Its imformative but at the same time its fun, fun, fun!

I feel so sorry for how far behind AndreaB is gonna be....

Me too...poor Andrea.

Feeling wild and reckless tonight, just finished a pint of ice-cream, I haven't had any dairy in about 6 weeks so we will see how I do, I blame Rachel , all that raving about ice-cream drove me to it. Besides it was like 32 degrees, for you that would be 32 x 2 + 28 = 92 degrees with humidity. I have spent most of the day hiding in the coolness of our little house with its' window shaker blasting away.

Oh no Rinne

If you get sick I'll feel soooo bad.

I hope you enjoy every bite....and I hope you dont get sick.

I lost track of how many pints I've had now.

EDIT:

I guess I've had 7 pints now. Its been like 5 days I think. Someone told me if you wanna gain weight...ice cream is the best way to do it. I'm trying...but theres no big difference yet. Guess I'll just have to work harder at this.