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Sorry, another question: should I continue the Myer's cocktail? My nutritionist highly recommends it.

Have you had testing to verify deficiencies? How do you feel after you've had it? I do think it can be very beneficial if you're body is deficient and to support your immune system.

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tabasco32 Apprentice
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Hey everyone! Good to see ya.

Well it's so hot here already in beautiful Fresno California. :P NOT!!!

I think 75 or 80 degrees. I have no air in my car so that's like a steam room to me right now.

I'm sweating all this stuff out and It makes me feel good. Though I am having this strange kind of arthritis pain in my neck and shoulders and hands but that's it. Oh and some bubble guts due to well, you know. Oh and some brain fog and more eye floaters.

So yeah Carla I was actually working on That YouTube thing. For real. So if anyone is interested, oh maybe not Donna. Yeah she won't open it so I guess I will just have to change my avatar daily so she can see pics of it. :D There's no way around it now Donna.

Do you think I can get in trouble for that? <_<

Must do it under a different alias. ;):)

Nyxie63 Apprentice
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I just checked. There are already videos on ecoffee on youtube already.

Dunno whether to be pleased or shocked. :huh::o:lol:

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Haha...poor Donna...she'll b tortured with YouTube videos and demonstrational avatars! :o

Yeah Lisa....I think you might get in trouble for that! :P

Did all the Lymies get Scotts new newsletter? Its got some good stuff in it. He always gets to do all the fun stuff...I'm jealous! :lol:

I liked how he said that the Dr. K. events are like going to Disneyland. I bet they are!! I feel the same way about Dr. Amy's visits...I would be soooo excited to see Dr. K!!

I'm SO looking forward to my appt. on the 24th...and its always nice to see Scott as well. :)

Theres are links to his recent articles....including his interview with Dr. Cowden. Some info. about Enula for Babesia in the article.

Anyone who wants the newsletter....let me know and I'll forward it to you.

itchygirl Newbie
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I had a stool test run, but didn't see the fine print about eating 60 grams of fat a day while on the test, so fecal fat came back fine. *headsmack*

Never had trypsinogen tested.

I do, however, have gallbladder-like symptoms when eating higher fat meals although tests can't find anything wrong with my gallbladder.

I had to do 100 grams of fat a day for three days before the test and 100 grams a day for the three days of the test. The only way I could do that much fat was to eat whole cartons of haagen daz! :lol: Have you had an MRCP with secretin? Or just the HIDA test?

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I just checked. There are already videos on ecoffee on youtube already.

Dunno whether to be pleased or shocked. :huh::o:lol:

:o:o

I dont think I wanna see them. :P

I'm totally up for seeing all kinds of parasites and other "unpleasant" things....but ecoffee?? Nah....I think I'll have to pass. Its not alot of fun doing them....and I imagine alot less fun watching someone else do it. :ph34r:

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I had to do 100 grams of fat a day for three days before the test and 100 grams a day for the three days of the test. The only way I could do that much fat was to eat whole cartons of haagen daz! :lol:

OMG! 100grams? I would have been in such agony! Then again, Haagen daz...... mmmmmmmm. :D

Have you had an MRCP with secretin? Or just the HIDA test?

Just the HIDA scan.

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Nyxie63 Apprentice
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:o:o

I dont think I wanna see them. :P

Thinking I was probably right not posting the links then, huh? :D :D

AndreaB Contributor
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Rachel,

Could you please send me Scott's newsletter. I'd like to see the Cowden article. :)

tabasco32 Apprentice
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That's it. :huh: Just a whole carton? I should have bought into share's of HD ice cream! Oh and SFF ice cream too. Oh yeah count me in on the Dr. Cowden protocol. Does anyone here take cellusure?

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Andrea...I just sent it to you. :)

LoriG Contributor
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Rachel,

Thanks for your help. A lot to think about!!

I've had 2 Myers and have felt awful after both. Not sure what that means?! A detoxing perhaps? No, I have never had blood testing for deficiences, only energetic testing.

To complete what you said about assuming what is wrong - my husband told me tonight he is tired of me doing that and I need to get tested right for these things. So please lay it out for me clearly what are the best tests for?

Heavy Metals - ( I know provoked urine and hair analysis to verify, right?)

Candida - blood antibodies: what is it called? maybe MD could run it

Parasites/Bacteria Infections - stool test? does it matter which one?

Leaky Gut - your above mentioned urine test

Food Allergies - Elisa if I decide to do that

Vitamin/Minerals - any particular one here? just one MD runs covered by insurance?!

You are so helpful! THANK YOU!!

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That's it. :huh: Just a whole carton? I should have bought into share's of HD ice cream! Oh and SFF ice cream too.

Yeah...for me it was Stoneyfield! OMG...those were the days!! I ate cartons of the stuff daily....for about 9 months straight. :D

Course....thats when my yeast antibodies were through the roof. <_<

Oh well....I was definately liking it....even if I was almost non-verbal most days. :lol:

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Heavy Metals - ( I know provoked urine and hair analysis to verify, right?)

Candida - blood antibodies: what is it called? maybe MD could run it

Parasites/Bacteria Infections - stool test? does it matter which one?

Leaky Gut - your above mentioned urine test

Food Allergies - Elisa if I decide to do that

Vitamin/Minerals - any particular one here? just one MD runs covered by insurance?!

Lori....I'll be back later with a list of some good labs for testing these things. I'm out the door right now. :)

LoriG Contributor
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itchygirl, Yes you see an associate of Mercola's trained by him for $2700, which covers 2 days of visits/tests

Rachel, By the way, what IS the CAUSE of leaky gut? Your reasoning sure makes a whole lot of sense, but how do you test the cause of it?

CarlaB Enthusiast
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I saw Scott's newsletter.

I'm doing okay on the enula .... the day after the first day, I felt horrible .... so it must work.

Green12 Enthusiast
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Welcome itchygirl :)

Did all the Lymies get Scotts new newsletter?

I got it, haven't read through it yet though.

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Rachel, By the way, what IS the CAUSE of leaky gut? Your reasoning sure makes a whole lot of sense, but how do you test the cause of it?

There is not one single cause for leaky gut....alot of things can cause or contribute to leaky gut. For example if mercury were to suppress the immune system it can create an imbalance of good/bad bugs in the gut. Antibiotics, poor diet, alcohol, chemicals, etc. can all make the situation worse.

If you have an overgrowth of yeast it can cause leaky gut. If you have parasites...they can cause leaky gut. Dysbiosis (pathogens in the gut) is a cause of leaky gut which then leads to food intolerance. Food intolerance causes even more inflmmation/damage to the gut.

It can be a vicious cycle. It would be alot easier to correct if there were only one cause for leaky gut (such as gluten intolerance) but thats not always the case. It can be several things going on but the main thing is that the immune system is suppressed....allowing for all of this to occur.

Heres a list of some things that can contribute to leaky gut...

Overuse of antibiotics, steroids, NSAIDS (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc)

Poor diet - high in refined foods and sugars and nutritional deficiencies

Incomplete digestion

Heightened exposure to environmental toxins

Stress

Parasitic infestations

Antibiotics because they lead to the overgrowth of abnormal flora in the gastrointestinal tract (bacteria, parasites, candida, fungi)

Alcohol and caffeine (strong gut irritants)

Foods and beverages contaminated by parasites like Giardia lamblia, cryptosporidium, blastocystis hominis and others

Foods and beverages contaminated by bacteria like helicobacter pylori, klebsiella, citrobacter, pseudomonas and others

Chemicals in fermented and processed food (dyes, preservatives, peroxidized fats)

Enzyme deficiencies (e.g. celiac disease, lactase deficiency causing lactose intolerance)

NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) like ASA, ibuprofen, indomethacin, etc.

Prescription corticosteroids (e.g. prednisone, hydrocortisone, DepoMedrol, etc.)

High refined carbohydrate diet (e.g. candy bars, cookies, cake, soft drinks, white bread)

Prescription hormones like the birth control pill

Mold and fungal mycotoxins in stored grains, fruit and refined carbohydrates

Green12 Enthusiast
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So yeah Carla I was actually working on That YouTube thing. For real. So if anyone is interested, oh maybe not Donna. Yeah she won't open it so I guess I will just have to change my avatar daily so she can see pics of it. :D There's no way around it now Donna.

Thinking I was probably right not posting the links then, huh? :D :D

:lol::lol:

Donna R U N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

confusedks Enthusiast
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I hope everyone else is doing well. Kassandra, I hope you get dinner tonight. ;)

LOL! I don't think I will. My mom is working all day. Unless she surprises me because I'm having a really bad day. :(

Yeah...for me it was Stoneyfield! OMG...those were the days!! I ate cartons of the stuff daily....for about 9 months straight. :D

You guys have to stop it! I am really considering challenging dairy and all this ice cream talk is KILLING ME! LOL! :lol:

Everyone,

I went this morning nice and early (had to wake up at 7.30 to get to the lab by 8.30 :o ) to have my blood drawn. They took 7 tubes! :o They never take that much from me because I am always so anemic, it doesn't do me any good. She had my lay down because I said something about passing out, lol. I was fine, but my arm is really hurting me now.

I then came home and ate, watched a little TV and decided all the light was bothering me, and I wanted to lay down. Well, I fell asleep for 4 hours! :unsure::o I just woke up! :D I guess I was really tired. I am in a bad mood again, lol. I MUST be herxing. I am just feeling overall yucky.

I think I am anemic again. I can never take naps like that unless I am really anemic. Oh, and I've been going to starbucks every chance I get for their iced teas because they have the BEST ice. :lol:;)

dlp252 Apprentice
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Yeah, I got Scott's newsletter but haven't printed or read it yet.

Forgot to say welcome to ItchyGirl! Welcome!!

Do you think I can get in trouble for that? <_<

Must do it under a different alias. ;):)

Haha...poor Donna...she'll b tortured with YouTube videos and demonstrational avatars! :o

Yeah Lisa....I think you might get in trouble for that! :P

Yeah, definitely not on a site like this, lol. Phew...might have to BLOCK you Lisa. :lol:

I just checked. There are already videos on ecoffee on youtube already.

Dunno whether to be pleased or shocked. :huh::o:lol:

:o :o Wow, good thing I don't hang out on YouTube, lol.

I had to do 100 grams of fat a day for three days before the test and 100 grams a day for the three days of the test. The only way I could do that much fat was to eat whole cartons of haagen daz! :lol: Have you had an MRCP with secretin? Or just the HIDA test?

Egads, I eat 100 grams of fat nearly every day! :o

Its not alot of fun doing them....and I imagine alot less fun watching someone else do it. :ph34r:

See, that's what I'm talking 'bout.

Donna R U N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Running shoes all laced up. :P

itchygirl Newbie
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I've never had the myers but have had vitamin infusions and I think they are supposed to leave you flushed, sweaty and generally icky. The myers has a lot of B vites, right?

Re: Mercola-When you think about it $2700 is not much for two days of tests. I mean, the last time I was in the hospital this spring the total cost was over $30,000 and that was one just proceedure with minor complications. As a regular consumer of medical services I can say with all honesty that I'd happily pay $2700 to actually have some medical professional actually pay attention to me :lol:

I've had 2 Myers and have felt awful after both. Not sure what that means?! A detoxing perhaps? No, I have never had blood testing for deficiences, only energetic testing.
truthsearcher Rookie
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Just a few comments

To itchygirl

Yes I have low pancreatic enzymes of Chymotrypsisn which is a key pancreatic enzyme for protein digestsion and Elastase.

I had my tests done through Genova. My report reads that low pancreatic values may reflect pancreatic insufficiency, inadaquate stomach acid for enzyme activation, or prolonged transit time.

Lori,

I don't know if everyone else would agree but I would definitly get the 6 hours provoked urine test.

The 24 hr one is not as reliable says my LLMD. I had a hair test and 24 urine done just after I had my amalgams removed and no mercury showed up. No elevations in metals on the hair and

my 24 hour test showed high lead and aluminum being the highest of them all. Arsenic and cadmium up there as well.

My 6hr provoked urine test (done just 2 weeks ago) showed high lead and mercury! I knew mercury was there d/t the dozen or so fillings I use to have but lo and behold the mercury finally showed up.

I don't know what the exact numbers are right now I have an appt first week in April to discuss the results.

hth

truthsearcher Rookie
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Oh and I wanted to say...

For those who just cannot hold a ecoffee or any e for that matter. My GI told me that if you have a Mega colon ( a colon that is stretch out, lost it tone d/t impaction or prolonged Constipation) you could lose the ability to hold liquids.

I had a menomometry sp? test done and this tests the ability to feel the "urge" for a bm and mine was way below normal so my lower part is all stretched out I can only do a ecoffee if I go really slow and stop for breaks and even then can only get 2 cups at the most in me.

hth

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Lori,

I don't know if everyone else would agree but I would definitly get the 6 hours provoked urine test.

I agree....I've only done 6 hour tests following a dose of IV DMPS. I think 24 hour tests might be too diluted.

The 24 hr one is not as reliable says my LLMD. I had a hair test and 24 urine done just after I had my amalgams removed and no mercury showed up. No elevations in metals on the hair and

my 24 hour test showed high lead and aluminum being the highest of them all. Arsenic and cadmium up there as well.

Most people who are mercury toxic wont have it showing up in hair. Other metals can show up in hair...but mercury usually does not. The hair analysis is definately useful as it can identify the probability of mercury toxicity even when there is no mercury coming out. If the essential minerals are out of balance its a pretty good indicator that mercury is an issue. Especially calcium, magnesium and zinc.

Dont get the hair analysis expecting to see mercury and dont rule out mercury when you dont see it...the mineral profile can be very useful.

Also....dont rule out mercury if its not coming out in initial provoked urine challenges...or if the amount excreted is within reference range. The body doesnt always readily excrete mercury....it can take some time to start showing up. It may also depend on the type of chelator used for the test.

Its not uncommon to see other metals coming out...with mercury not showing up until later on.

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