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[Green12]

I have been out of town with no internet connection. Getting caught up!

I have been doing pretty good on nattokinase. I still take it with the gallbladder pain because I don't think its related. I think my gallbladder issues might be related to my liver issues. I have been taking Lecithen and Gold Coin Grass and the pain is gone, for now.

Everytime I make a statement about something being better, I jinx myself

Hi April, glad to see you back.

That's good news you are tolerating the nattokinase and that the gall bladder pain has improved. I was thinking I had heard it was a soy source, I think Sherry mentioned that? And I don't know if that is more difficult for the liver to process or not?

Julie

I am so tired but I am going to PM you in the morning

Good Not good that you are tired, but good you are pming me in the am

Hi Jin--I was so sorry to hear about what you're having to deal with at home and on LN. I'm glad you could type it all out--sometimes that helps--the getting it all out, and telling those you can trust to understand. You will always have a soft place to land here

Andrea, Donna's been very sick and for a while there was actually unable to even sit at the computer for any length of time. She's posting a bit more lately, though, so hopefully she's doing a lot better.

Thanks Mia I love the Olive Oil Bar Soap! I do need to try that lotion--both you and Julie speak so well of it. Hope you're doing better

Patti, I'm glad you posted about Donna, I was going to mention earlier. Not only was she super sick, but just as she was starting to feel better she had strange symptoms with her eye, possibly an infection? She has a had a really rough stretch here for a while

I hope you can find that lotion in your area. Another thing that makes me so happy about it is that I can buy it in a huge bulk container, so very economical in the long run

And I totally agree with what you said to Jin. I think coming to a place where it is safe to vent (here ) and getting all that out had to be helpful. Hopefully Jin you can put that ugly experience behind you and focus on your health and getting better

[mftnchn]

About cooking gas, in Asia that is the norm. I am pretty vigilant about staying away from it and if I have to use it I keep it short and always ventilate well. Even with that, I have had some very sick spells triggered by gas exposures. In my experience, reading, etc., I'd say it is the first thing to eliminate if a person is showing chemical sensitivities. It can be behind any symptom but I would suspect it with neuro symptoms, increasing allergies, fatigue, headaches, etc.

Patti, I'd think it would be out of your system in a couple of weeks, however, my experience is that then the settling down of other sensitivities takes awhile longer after that. My allergist once told me that it is very different in terms of recovery period from person to person. Can take a very long time for some.

I would think with the nice weather coming, getting out in fresh clean air every day away from latent chemicals in your house would be helpful. Also, the other detox things we talk about here on this thread. I supposed activated charcoal wouldn't work because of the coconut? Maybe the modified citrus pectin or the chlorella or something?

April, maybe you could design a 2 week to a month trial of not using the gas appliances and see what happened.

Sherry

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Carla,

I am glad to hear you have not had bad experiences with anyone on Lyme Chat. My place is certainly here. People here are not abrasive, kind of like Rembrandt. It brightens but does not tear down enamel! Those are true friends.

Today is Lariam day! Do not forget! A lot of people really say good things about Mino. Medications have to follow a strict schedule for effectiveness. Levaquin seems scary due to how harsh the herx tends to be. I hope you recover fully soon and are back on your feet.

Dear Andrea,

That is wonderful you have been able to add more foods back into the children's diet. Is raw dairy different from organic? Schnuck's has their own available organic brand, and it is relatively affordable. I am going to test the theory that it is lactose for sure and not casein soon. I want to get some Haagen-Dazs and Lactaid, because at least it would be something I actually enjoyed for once in case it does make me sick.

What is bothering your eldest child's symptoms is difficult to say. It could be the peanut butter or the cereals. Eliminating them and adding them back one at a time is the only way to really be sure. I am going to have to do a rotation diet, and am trying to figure out how without going poor. Dad is on a restricted diet as well now, so now we have low-carb stuff we must buy as well as other things.

He also has a cold right now. Dad caught it from his co-worker, who so graciously shared his germs.

Mom and I do not want to catch it, but probably will. Colds are difficult to avoid. I have some Sambucol, so I hope it will help.

Dear Kassandra,

Sorry your colonic was so painful! That sounded like a bad experience. Your GI issues may be aggravated by it. Mine probably would be. My system not not like much of anything.

Asking Dr. H is a good idea. He can probably offer explanations. I heard he is so wonderful! By the way, thank you for the NP update! It looks like you are making progress!

I am afraid I cannot say anything regarding the Mercola supplements. I have not taken them. Maybe Carla has tried them. I thought she may have. They probably are purer than most forms.

Dear Julie,

Dry skin is problematic for me as well. Nothing really helps it. The thing is, you must exfoliate before moisturizing. My feet are very scaly, which is bad. If the Crocodile Hunter was alive and saw me, he would be trying to bag me!

I told myself I should have a spa day once a week for beauty. I never do anything for myself. I do not get to have manicures, pedicures, or anything of that sort. Those are a fantasy for now. Maybe one day! I wanted to use more natural things for moisturizers, but have heard some scary things about mineral oil even! I am also working on developing an all natural acne soap.

I appreciate your words of kindness. It really hurts when people make accusations and do not even attempt to understand your scenario. They will simplify it, and make it your fault no matter what. I have never understood such individuals who create disharmony among others for sheer entertainment. Thank goodness for Rachelville, where there is light instead of darkness!

Colonics have gotten popular for detoxing and weightloss among celebrities. The annoying thing is so many doing them for vanity. Health is more important. Beauty is important as well, but not at the expense of your health. Plastic surgery is very dangerous, yet so many people will risk death to alter their appearance. Although it does play a role in your self-esteem, there comes a point where it is unhealthy to obsess over weight or other things.

I have been wondering about Donna, too. It is a good thing Patti posted about her! I did see that she posted on the EM Thread the other day. Her eye had a sore on it. She has not posted since that I know of, though.

You mentioned April's supplement possibly being a soy source, and how Sherry said that is may be more difficult for the liver to process. That is right. You see, soy is a phytoestrogen. Estrogen must go through the liver. Estrogenic foods stress the liver, and when trying to detoxify it, soy products are best avoided. This may explain why I got hot flashes and such when I drank soy milk.

Dear Nora,

Mom does the same thing! There are scented candles all over the place in here. She does not care that they make me sick, and says anyone with asthma or whatever is not going to stop her from wearing perfume. Those chemicals are very harmful. Breathing them in is not healthy!

Leaky-Gut does cause Restless Leg Syndrome. That may be why you had difficulty sitting still. ADD and ADHD are often linked to food allergies as well. Most people never think to check their children's diet, they just dope them up on Ritalin or something. Such medications are dangerous, and certainly should be carefully monitored and prescribed. I always was a hyper child, so it makes sense that there is a connection.

NSAIDs scare me. My grandmother nearly died due to them. She developed an ulcer the size of an orange because she was on Naproxen for many years as a result of arthritis. Her nearly bleeding to death is what threw her full-force into Alzheimer's. Any of those medications must be taken on a full stomach, or they will destroy your stomach lining.

Potassium is very important. Many people need more. I have been eating two bananas daily for a while now, and have noticed a difference in the leg pain. It has subsided a bit. LDN sounds like good stuff. I would like to learn more about it.

Dear April,

We should get one of those lead testing kits. I think something is going on in our water. My banana turns black when I rinse it. That is gross! What they heck is going on with that stuff? Our tap water is deadly!

You got a bad vibe from LN as well, huh? That makes me feel better. When someone insults and hurts you like that, and someone else tells you to kill your dog because they think he is stupid, you know these people cannot be all there. Such a thing is psychotic. People intentionally misconstrue your words so they can argue!

Eczema is a common reaction to wheat and dairy both. I am glad that your son is not having any other troubles, though. Raw dairy can be expensive. Of course, if you rotate the foods, it probably will cost less. My mother and I agreed I should do the cooking for all of us for several hours once a week.

That way, I can be sure my food is safe from gluten. They can add condiments and sauces on theirs, because I cannot eat a lot of things like vinegar due to the yeast. We also will save energy this way. All of us are worried about the bills, and not having to keep the oven on off and on all the time would dramatically cut the time between preheating and such. Total time of use will be reduced, and we can just heat and eat!

Gallbladder pain is something I am all too familiar with! I am glad yours has gotten better. Bile duct issues are common among people with gluten intolerance and Celiac. Watching my fat intake is important, because although it has been nearly five years since my surgery, I still get ill if I eat too much fat. Strangely, there are times I get away with eating a lot of it, but usually I end up suffering.

Dear Patti,

I do feel better, thank you! You guys are like a trampoline, where you help me bounce back after I begin to fall. Without everyone here, I would not be able to cope. Sometimes the depression is so profound, I fear a nervous breakdown. Then I will come on here, and read something that makes me laugh.

Everytime I see a smiley face, I think of Rachel and Donna. Angels remind me of you of course! I think of the term Lymerdida Guadalupe when Lisa comes to mind. That makes me giggle. Carla gives me visions of strength and beauty through recovery. Mia reminds me of sugar, because she is sweet, but without the empty calories and feeding yeast.

Nyxie reminds me that I am and can be as strong as my favorite anime character, too. She is a fighter! Julie reminds me of balance and that there are more important things than perfection, and she does so with much grace and beauty on the inside and out. Judy is that unexpected ray of sunshine you see peeking through the clouds after the rain. Andrea is the wise, sweet, beautiful woman who is our mother hen, trying to guide us.

Kassandra is wise beyond her years, and knows so many things! Birdy shares her struggles and does her best to help others while she too, bravely faces obstacles like everyone else on here. Rachel and Donna share information that intrigues us and prevents are brains from going to mush. Keeping the wheels turning prevents duhs. Getting a case of those is best avoided. Rinne gives her wisdom and we are priveledged to read her artful prose.

Sherry is a happy wanderer who inspires us with her determination and zest for adventure. Nora is inquisitive and ready to help answer our questions or provide input whenever possible. Everyone else has a special place who has ever been on the thread in my heart. We all try to help each other emotionally or with information on health. There is always so much to learn and grow with. Everyone accepts me for who I am, and who everyone else is, too.

Thank you so much for the Donna update! Everyone was wondering how she was. She has been scarce lately. Hopefully, her eye is doing better. That virus had her down the other week, and she had a terrible time recovering.

Dear Sherry,

Gas is bad for you. I can only imagine how difficult it is to breathe it in for so long and get it out of your system. It can get in your lungs, your brain, and your skin! We have used a gas range all of my life.

Being exposed to it so often is not healthy.

RO water filters are not as expensive as I thought! $200 is definitely much less than so many other units are. $2,600 does seem excessive. Shower filters are good to have, too. Taking in all of those chemicals in our water is bad news!

Dear Mia,

Are you doing chelation still? You mentioned taking a break for a while. Did you begin again? Metals are so stubborn! I hate to think of what I have in my system.

Dear Everyone,

It is time for the food lust file. Dad was teasing me the other night with some chocolate peanut butter. He let me have it since he has a cold and cannot taste it, though. It was so good! I know I have no business eating peanut butter, but it is all gone now.

I think I need peanut butter rehab! I just cannot stop myself with that stuff! Peanut Butter and Co. has Dark Chocolate Dreams, which is a lot like Jif's Smooth Sensations Chocolate Silk they used to have that I loved. They stopped making it. I ate the whole 16oz. jar in three days!

Interestingly, it gave me reflux due to the high fat content, but did not give me near the reflux the gluten-free brownies gave me last week. I am in trouble, too. There are more flavors! I seriously love peanut butter, because it is the only thing that keeps me full for hours! My blood sugar also stays near normal that way. Will almond butter do the same, you think?

In other news, Dart had another bad seizure last night. This is the second one this week. My mother is just sure it was the flea and tick stuff we used and not gluten. I really think gluten is the culprit. The vet thinks he has a shunt in his liver. They want to put him under and go in and look, but Mom will not do it.

Yorkies are very easy to overdose on anesthesia, so we were afraid to do it. Now, get this. They would neuter him, but will not put him under to clean his teeth. WTH? My last dog died of an enlarged heart, and it could have been caused by her teeth. We do not want that to happen to Dart. My aunt owns the sire and momma of the pups, and one recently had 8 teeth pulled and the other had ten!

Sincerely,

Jin

[miamia]

I did a massage at 11.15 and then had a colonic at 4. Is that too far apart? I tried to find places that do both at the same location, but I couldn't find any!

And, are colonics supposed to be painful? It was one of the most painful things ever! I was completely pale and sweating because I was in so much pain!!

I'm definitely going to call Dr H on monday and ask what he suggests I do. It was pretty unbearable. I have only heard great things about the place I went to, but I don't know. It could have been her, or it cold be my GI issues.

Kassandra

I PM'd you I hope you got it

[aprilh]

Hi April, glad to see you back.

That's good news you are tolerating the nattokinase and that the gall bladder pain has improved. I was thinking I had heard it was a soy source, I think Sherry mentioned that? And I don't know if that is more difficult for the liver to process or not?

It is from soy. Dr. Mercola has some good info on this on his site. I haven't bought his brand yet, but its supposed to be pure of GMO soy and all that. He doesn't believe in soy products but finds this one to be okay. It doesn't seem to bother me as far as I know.

[aprilh]

About cooking gas, in Asia that is the norm. I am pretty vigilant about staying away from it and if I have to use it I keep it short and always ventilate well. Even with that, I have had some very sick spells triggered by gas exposures. In my experience, reading, etc., I'd say it is the first thing to eliminate if a person is showing chemical sensitivities. It can be behind any symptom but I would suspect it with neuro symptoms, increasing allergies, fatigue, headaches, etc.

Patti, I'd think it would be out of your system in a couple of weeks, however, my experience is that then the settling down of other sensitivities takes awhile longer after that. My allergist once told me that it is very different in terms of recovery period from person to person. Can take a very long time for some.

I would think with the nice weather coming, getting out in fresh clean air every day away from latent chemicals in your house would be helpful. Also, the other detox things we talk about here on this thread. I supposed activated charcoal wouldn't work because of the coconut? Maybe the modified citrus pectin or the chlorella or something?

April, maybe you could design a 2 week to a month trial of not using the gas appliances and see what happened.

Sherry

Sherry,

I would love to, but its just not possible. We have gas dryer, hot water heater and furnace all in the basement. Gas range upstairs. I often wondered if the ones in the basement put off some type of off gasses. What I could do is ventilate the kitchen when I use it. Then when it comes to replacement I might switch to electric version. With needing to cook and use hot water, I just don't know how I would do it.

Didn't you say you take 80mg of Nattokinase? My bottle only lists FU, Fibrin Units. I don't know how that compares. I take 1000 FU's at night.

April

[aprilh]

Here is what Dr. Mercola says about his Nattokinase.

Natto is produced through a fermentation process and adding Bacillus natto, a beneficial bacterium, to boiled soybeans.

Natto has been a traditional Japanese food for more than 1,000 years. For centuries, it was easily made at home: soybeans were packed in straw (which contained a natural bacillus) then buried in the ground for a week.

Today, natto is made by injecting the bacteria. The Bacillus natto acts on the soybeans, producing the nattokinase enzyme. Other soy foods contain enzymes, but the specific nattokinase enzyme can only be isolated from natto.

Natto is compared to cheese because of its pungent aroma, and it has a

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Mia,

I was just thinking on if it was you who was going to try the Mayan abdominal massage. Claire had mentioned them before. I know you were thinking about it at one time. Do you still do the ionic foot baths? You have not mentioned them lately.

Dear April,

We probably have to stick with gas as well for now. You cannot cook at all when the power goes out with an electric stove. I wonder if there is a test kit to see if dangerous fumes are leaking into the air from your range? Gas is definitely more convenient at times. Being eco-friendly would be nice, but it is not always affordable right away.

Thank you for the information on the nattokinase! This is very interesting. Does it help with digestion? I am having an awful time with stomach issues. Needing to get off of the Prilosec is likely part of it. Today I am calling that naturopath to see how much she costs and such.

Sincerely,

Jin

[miamia]

Jin-

I am still on my chealtion break I will be for a few more weeks. The massage/ colonics and MSM I takeare what I am doing to combat the metals and detox right now

[NoGluGirl]

Dear Mia,

I have thought about taking MSM. I know it also can get rid of parasites. Dad takes it along with glucosamine and chondroitin for his arthritis. His doctor is very interested in that. Meanwhile, I hope those massages and colonics work their magick for you! Keep us posted.

Sincerely,

Jin

[dlp252]

Checking the EM Cult Thread is a good idea. Donna may have been on there. I will see. Work is quite demanding for her. Law offices are not exactly the least busy places to be employed!

Andrea, Donna's been very sick and for a while there was actually unable to even sit at the computer for any length of time. She's posting a bit more lately, though, so hopefully she's doing a lot better.

Patti, I'm glad you posted about Donna, I was going to mention earlier. Not only was she super sick, but just as she was starting to feel better she had strange symptoms with her eye, possibly an infection? She has a had a really rough stretch here for a while

Hello everyone! I'm here...sometimes, lol. I'm finding it really hard to keep up. I had that flu thing for two whole weeks, and that has sort of put me back a step or two I think. I can't concentrate on anything it seems.

My eye is still irritated, but is getting better. When I was sick, I coughed so hard that I couldn't catch a breath...that made me tense up and I pulled a little muscle in my chest and one in my head. Apparently at the same time I threw something out in my right shoulder blade area.

I saw my PT/chiro last week, then a massage therapist at work for 30 minutes on Friday, then the PT/chiro again Friday afternoon. Saturday my whole neck and shoulder region was excrutiatingly painful, so I just decided to not even turn on my computer for the entire weekend, lol.

All that's better today...I'm still going to go in and see the PT/chiro today because the shoulder blade thing is still really sore.

In addition to ALL that, my boss has been on me about making sure I ALWAYS have work, so I am really paranoid about posting while at work. I think they're going to have layoffs here soon and I think she doesn't want me to be one of them.

I had a BioSET appointment Saturday...candida showed up big time again. While I was sick I barely had an appetite, so stayed away from sugar completely, but I guess the weeks BEFORE that did me in.

I see Dr. S next Monday...kind of excited about that.

[AndreaB]

Donna,

Glad to see you! I'm sorry things have been so rough with you. I hope you are on the upward swing again.

That's tough about work.......hopefully things will lighten up soon and get back to normal.

[confused]

Donna, Did you send me that flu lol.

I try to read along on here and my mind wanders lol. I am so sick. I am not sure if the foot pads are making me excrete all of these toxins or what. I think the neti pot is also to blame for some of the toxic overload I am feeling. Hubby had me lay in bed all day yesterday, but that didnt even help. I have tried detox baths but with all the chlorine in the water, it isnt helping very much.

Any ideas what i can do to feel better.

paula

[dlp252]

Donna, Did you send me that flu lol.

...

Any ideas what i can do to feel better.

Ha, don't think you got it from me, although PLENTY of people around here did, lol.

Nothing made me feel loads better. I made an quick easy chicken soup a couple of days...that's really all I felt like eating. I'd be really hungry, but just didn't want to eat anything...nothing sounded good. That sort of made me feel better.

I drank tons of warm water (it was cold here, lol).

Hot shower seemed to help too...I didn't take an epsom salt bath but I'm wondering if that would have helped some too.

I basically did NOTHING except lay on the couch for two weeks. The few times I tried to venture out always did me in. When I went back to work that REALLY did me in...I'm still fighting fatigue. The fatigue is almost as bad as it was a year and a half ago.

[AndreaB]

The fatigue is almost as bad as it was a year and a half ago.

I'm sorry Donna. I remember wondering last year how you managed to work through all that. That would be very hard for me to do.

[confusedks]

Kassandra

I PM'd you I hope you got it

Yes I did. I will reply later when I have time. I'm supposed to be getting ready for a couple appt's I have today.

[tabasco32]

Hi just driving thru. I am at the library and don't have much time. So I just wanted to say that I believe you and me Jin are on the same boat right now. Your dad buys books on pens?

I feel the very same, oh and I think that hershey's chocolate bars constipate me.

[Green12]

Everytime I see a smiley face, I think of Rachel and Donna. Angels remind me of you of course! I think of the term Lymerdida Guadalupe when Lisa comes to mind. That makes me giggle. Carla gives me visions of strength and beauty through recovery. Mia reminds me of sugar, because she is sweet, but without the empty calories and feeding yeast.

Nyxie reminds me that I am and can be as strong as my favorite anime character, too. She is a fighter! Julie reminds me of balance and that there are more important things than perfection, and she does so with much grace and beauty on the inside and out. Judy is that unexpected ray of sunshine you see peeking through the clouds after the rain. Andrea is the wise, sweet, beautiful woman who is our mother hen, trying to guide us.

Kassandra is wise beyond her years, and knows so many things! Birdy shares her struggles and does her best to help others while she too, bravely faces obstacles like everyone else on here. Rachel and Donna share information that intrigues us and prevents are brains from going to mush. Keeping the wheels turning prevents duhs. Getting a case of those is best avoided. Rinne gives her wisdom and we are priveledged to read her artful prose.

Sherry is a happy wanderer who inspires us with her determination and zest for adventure. Nora is inquisitive and ready to help answer our questions or provide input whenever possible. Everyone else has a special place who has ever been on the thread in my heart. We all try to help each other emotionally or with information on health. There is always so much to learn and grow with. Everyone accepts me for who I am, and who everyone else is, too.

This is so nice what you said about everyone here Jin.

Back to your experience with those individuals in lyme chat, some people just don't know how to play nicely, a few rotten apples spoiling it for the whole bunch. Some people are just very opinionated and more than happy to tell you exactly how they feel, no matter if it is hurtful or not. Could be they were just having an off day, or maybe they don't care, either way it's their stuff not yours. So try not to let that negative energy get you down. Easier said than done, I know.

You must stop eating the chocolate peanut butter!!! That can't be helping your health issues at all. Not only are peanuts a legume and difficult to digest for those of us with a compromised system, but they are hight in mold so that I am sure is flaring your yeast issues.

Chocolate also is a major trigger food for reflux/heartburn.

Almond butter would a better choice, if you can tolerate nuts. If it is too expensive you can make your own nut butters, buy raw almonds in bulk and use a food processor, or your juicer might have a nut butter attachment.

Sorry to hear about Dart's seizure

Here is what Dr. Mercola says about his Nattokinase.

Thanks Arpil for this info

Hello everyone! I'm here...sometimes, lol. I'm finding it really hard to keep up. I had that flu thing for two whole weeks, and that has sort of put me back a step or two I think. I can't concentrate on anything it seems.

My eye is still irritated, but is getting better. When I was sick, I coughed so hard that I couldn't catch a breath...that made me tense up and I pulled a little muscle in my chest and one in my head. Apparently at the same time I threw something out in my right shoulder blade area.

I saw my PT/chiro last week, then a massage therapist at work for 30 minutes on Friday, then the PT/chiro again Friday afternoon. Saturday my whole neck and shoulder region was excrutiatingly painful, so I just decided to not even turn on my computer for the entire weekend, lol.

All that's better today...I'm still going to go in and see the PT/chiro today because the shoulder blade thing is still really sore.

In addition to ALL that, my boss has been on me about making sure I ALWAYS have work, so I am really paranoid about posting while at work. I think they're going to have layoffs here soon and I think she doesn't want me to be one of them.

I had a BioSET appointment Saturday...candida showed up big time again. While I was sick I barely had an appetite, so stayed away from sugar completely, but I guess the weeks BEFORE that did me in.

I see Dr. S next Monday...kind of excited about that.

You have had so much on your plate Donna, I hope everything settles down soon

Any chance anything new you have started induced a healing crisis? I thought the last few appts you went to you might have started a new supplement or two, and then the timing of you getting sick seemed to come right after that.

Also just the stress of refinancing your condo and etc, a weakened immune system and all the bugs going around doesn't make for a very good combo

Hi just driving thru. I am at the library and don't have much time. So I just wanted to say that I believe you and me Jin are on the same boat right now. Your dad buys books on pens?

I feel the very same, oh and I think that hershey's chocolate bars constipate me.

Hey Lisa, I am suspect of Hershey's too. There is something in their chocolate that just isn't right, I react to it every time.

Patti, how are your symptoms with the chemical sensitivities faring today?? Notice any change, better or worse?

I didn't pick up on this the first time around, but did I read your post right that you are now reacting to your EM make-up????

[dlp252]

Any chance anything new you have started induced a healing crisis? I thought the last few appts you went to you might have started a new supplement or two, and then the timing of you getting sick seemed to come right after that.

Also just the stress of refinancing your condo and etc, a weakened immune system and all the bugs going around doesn't make for a very good combo

Well, I started Serra Peptase about a month and a half ago I think...I guess the timing WOULD be about right. I also started several detox drops and terrains for the mold, miasms and gallbladder, at the same time. I don't think I started anything since then...maybe a new brand of COQ10. Anyway, I had been feeling kind of off for several weeks before I actually got really sick, so that puts the timing just right for all the new supplements.

The stress certainly didn't help. The good news is that the refinancing is all done, I've been paid, and I've paid off all my bills, so THAT should help ease the stress a little. Now, I just have the stress of trying to get the work done, which sounds so small, but trying to figure out how it's all going to get done is overwhelming for me.

[Green12]

I am trying LDN now (found some references on it here, actually) and I feel a lot better (even though I am under-medicated thyroid-wise (because of a TSH-worshipping doctor)) and by the way, it takes away chocolate cravings etc. too. I had fibromyalgia-like pains and they went away too (Ithink I got them because of being under-medicated thyroid-wise in the first place....) I got it from theantiaging site. Got a lot of energy too so was over-doing everything but I am not so over-active longer. It felt like my old self, not like some mania if you know what I mean. I do 3 mg every other day and take it in the daytime as suggested by Elaine Moore. She is writing a book on LDN now.

Hi Nora, refresh my memory what LDN is....I am totally drawing a blank.

Whatever it is I am glad it is helping

I try to read along on here and my mind wanders lol. I am so sick. I am not sure if the foot pads are making me excrete all of these toxins or what. I think the neti pot is also to blame for some of the toxic overload I am feeling. Hubby had me lay in bed all day yesterday, but that didnt even help. I have tried detox baths but with all the chlorine in the water, it isnt helping very much.

Any ideas what i can do to feel better.

Paula, I am so sorry you aren't feeling well

I would be a little leary about taking a bath without the bathball, surely there is still extra chlorine?

Others might have a differing opinion, but I know when I am really not feeling well and suspecting things making me worse I back down off of everything ( like with the netti pot, the baths, the detox pads) and take a break for a few days until I feel a little better. Then I slowly add things back in one at a time and pay attention to any symptoms that might come up, this way I am able to pinpoint what the cause is.

It could be too you have come down with something, it really is going around. Also you have been under lots of stress dealing with the water contamination and all of that fallout. You may have just had enough of everything.

[dlp252]

I agree...what you said about us is very nice Jin! Glad to see you back.

[jerseyangel]

Patti, how are your symptoms with the chemical sensitivities faring today?? Notice any change, better or worse?

I didn't pick up on this the first time around, but did I read your post right that you are now reacting to your EM make-up????

Hi Julie

I'm doing better--since I replaced that shampoo, conditioner and soap. It's kind of amazing how much that stuff affected me. That's a major reason I wanted to run it by people here because it's such a profound difference.

Of course, the eliminaton of the natural gas is probably a big help, too, in that it's not constantly hindering my attempts.

The EM is fine--I meant that I use that and not makeup with more ingredients. Last weekend while were were away for the party, I wore makeup each day and was fine....I had switched to the California Baby stuff a few days before.

How are you feeling?

[jerseyangel]

I agree...what you said about us is very nice Jin! Glad to see you back.

Yes Jin, I meant to say this, too! So very sweet

And you are our breath of fresh air--so creative and caring

[AndreaB]

Now, I just have the stress of trying to get the work done, which sounds so small, but trying to figure out how it's all going to get done is overwhelming for me.

One step at a time, no matter how small and it will all come together.

Jin,

I have to ditto everyone else.

Well I'm thinking to go back to strict gluten free. I was hoping that everyone would be able to handle the barley and oats but since M wasn't doing very well I have to assume the he's never going to be able to eat gluten. Double DQ2 is one of the most probably of developing celiac so more than likely with the metals, he was triggered already. I had no intention of going back to wheat, spelt or rye (aside from not worrying about cc) but it would make things much easier cereal wise anyway to be able to do the regular oats.

I wrote Dr E about whether she thinks gluten would test as a stressor even if it hadn't been eaten for awhile, if the celiac had actually been triggered. Don't really know that she would be able to answer that but I thought I'd try.

[Green12]

The stress certainly didn't help. The good news is that the refinancing is all done, I've been paid, and I've paid off all my bills, so THAT should help ease the stress a little. Now, I just have the stress of trying to get the work done, which sounds so small, but trying to figure out how it's all going to get done is overwhelming for me.

I agree with Andrea, baby steps and one thing at a time.

If you look at the project as a whole it will look too big too tackle, and way too overwhelming, and so much more stress!!

I'm doing better--since I replaced that shampoo, conditioner and soap. It's kind of amazing how much that stuff affected me. That's a major reason I wanted to run it by people here because it's such a profound difference.

Of course, the eliminaton of the natural gas is probably a big help, too, in that it's not constantly hindering my attempts.

The EM is fine--I meant that I use that and not makeup with more ingredients. Last weekend while were were away for the party, I wore makeup each day and was fine....I had switched to the California Baby stuff a few days before.

I'm glad to hear you are doing better Patti with the changes you have made, and thrilled that the EM make-up is still ok

Well I'm thinking to go back to strict gluten free. I was hoping that everyone would be able to handle the barley and oats but since M wasn't doing very well I have to assume the he's never going to be able to eat gluten. Double DQ2 is one of the most probably of developing celiac so more than likely with the metals, he was triggered already. I had no intention of going back to wheat, spelt or rye (aside from not worrying about cc) but it would make things much easier cereal wise anyway to be able to do the regular oats.

I wrote Dr E about whether she thinks gluten would test as a stressor even if it hadn't been eaten for awhile, if the celiac had actually been triggered. Don't really know that she would be able to answer that but I thought I'd try.

I found this article Andrea and I thought it was a really good read, it makes a strong case about staying totally gluten-free:

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