Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[CarlaB]

Anyone have any good Vit C recommendations. I bought Alive from nature's way but it's too expensive to continue getting. I need to take 2 grams a day til I have the first removal and then up it to 3-5 grams. Since the removals are so close together I won't be backing back down on Vit C til mid-end of September.

When I bought C at Whole Foods, the lady helping me said that they found it's pretty readily absorbable, so there are some cheap ones that will work just fine. In the case of Vitamin C, more expensive is not necessarily any better. At least that's what she told me ... and after looking at them all, they do all look the same and no one really claims theirs is better as other supps do.

Just look for ones that have ingredients you are not allergic to.

[AndreaB]

Got a call from my dentist's office. He got his license revoked. Don't know how long it will take to fight to get it back.

I've scheduled with another dentist in the Portland area who does removals. We'll see what they put the price tag at. It will depend on whether they say I need more crowns or not. My dentist says I don't. I have the exam appointment on Wednesday. Will keep everyone posted.

[CarlaB]

Yikes, Andrea. Yes, the dentists have to fight for their stand against amalgams just like the Lyme doctors have to fight to treat Lyme.

[Nanjkay]

April, he took me off things that cause my immune system to produce the cytokines ... like the Zith, Cumanda, and the Transfer Factor. Cytokines are what make you feel sick when you have the flu, for example. So, since I'm achey and tired, but my other Lyme symptoms are gone, he thinks that's my problem.

We're not giving up on the Lyme ... I'm on andrographis, resveratrol (just ordered it), and Samento ... those are new (except for the Samento).

Since he took me off abx, he put me on Malarone (Mepron needs abx) and Lariam for the babs, he's still concerned about babs. I'm also on art and Enula.

He changed my cytomel to a time released one to try to help with the fatigue.

Well, I think that's about it. I'll still need to send out an update to email family/friends, so let me know if you want the long version ... it's the same stuff, but I'll explain it better. I don't think I left anything out, but I'll be more detailed in the email, with dosage, etc.

Carla-

Interesting update. He sounds like such a great doctor.

My LLMD, Dr. R, who I saw Tuesday, took me off ABX also. He says it is ridiculous how sick (stomach symptoms) I got (I sometimes felt faint before and after a BM..sorry so graphic) and my stomach needs to rest. I interpreted many of my OTHER NON HERX symptoms as out of control inflammation starting from the gut. I only left the house 4 times in the past 5 weeks since I stared the ABX.

If it weren't for this group, I would have felt trapped and out of options (panic mode) after my appointment, but I know from all of you that there are many ways to skin a cat, so to speak.

The herbs you mentioned to treat the Lyme are some of the best, so you are most definitely not giving up. Japanese Knotweed, Andrographis and Cat's Claw (what Samento comes from) are the three main herbs in Steven Buhner's core protocol. I started treating myself with these herbs before I could get in to see a doctor. Infact, The Japanese Knotweed is an herb that contains the chemical resveratrol, but it contains many other amazing chemicals. I am taking a Japanese Knotweed complex with both resveratrol concentrate and the whole herb. They are very hard on the stomach, but yours is stronger now, so you may be fine. Buhners's book is called "Healing Lyme" and he goes into great detail about the benefits of all the herbs, but especially impressive is the Japanese Knotweed...and the fact that it is so prolific is why it is so wonderful against such a prolific bacteria...it is interconnected.

What is Cytomel?

And are cytokines one of the chemicals under the umbrella of having inflammation? How can we tell what, if anything, that we are taking that could cause the release of cytokines?

Now that I am off the ABX for two weeks or until I see Dr. H, I am rethinking how to approach this. Dr. R just wants me to got back on Cef after the break.

I also see Dr. H in two weeks, so I may just wait and see what he says.

[AndreaB]

Yikes, Andrea. Yes, the dentists have to fight for their stand against amalgams just like the Lyme doctors have to fight to treat Lyme.

That's what I had mentioned to his assistant. Hoping it won't take long to get the license back but not holding my breath. We still have him in mind for cleanings and T's dental appliance.....whenever he does get his license back.

[dlp252]

Well, the doctor said my foot is healing just fine, so that's a relief. I also can stop wrapping it all the time, saving that for days when I'll be on my feet a lot. I still can't drive or wear regular shoes...the driving part bums me out, but I can certainly understand. It's a safety issue really. If I can't slam on the breaks if necessary it becomes dangerous. I have to stretch the toe though...that's painful, but it will get better the more it's done. He also wants me to use ice to massage it. So it looks like I'll be out the whole 6 weeks...I was hoping to save 1 of those weeks for the other surgery so I'll probably have to use PTO time instead. I see him again on the 28th.

Rachel, yay...glad you get to get in earlier!

Andrea! Wow, I'm shocked about your dentist!!!!

[confused]

I have been following along just dont have much to add. I have busy with the kids and we had an appraisail on the house due to refinancing and spent 2 days doing major stuff to the house. Im so happy i felt good enough to help hubby lol

I did wake up with an cold yesterday but feel much better today.

Donna,

Sorry you are out the whole 6 weeks.

paula

[Rachel--24]

So I saw the new compass. I wasn't impressed. I don't think it measures metals and stuff. I don't know what it does. It's some type of biofeedback machine. Tells you what your body needs.

Awww...sorry it was a disappointment Lisa. Did you get to try it though? How does it work?

Anyways I was drooling over the guacamole that he ordered for the chip. MMMM chips.....

At least you had the will power to leave them alone. I couldnt do it....heck no....I'd be all over that guac.

When I was taking a lot of the antihistamine Claritin I researched some of the side effects. If I recall correctly weight gain was one of them, but don't quote me on that.

Same with Ketotifen...the two main side effects were sleepiness and weight gain. I was soooooo hoping for the weight gain...but NO...I had to get the sleepiness instead. Actually, the Keto was knocking me the heck out!

Calicoe, since I've "known" Rachel for so long, I know what she meant. She didn't mean criticism toward the beer thread ..... it's just that it's ironic that so many are so against something so simple as digestive enzymes yet they are supportive of drinking beer. I admit, there is irony there.

Yeah.....I think it might be because beer is familiar to everyone....and heck...who doesnt wanna have a beer now and then?? Ok, well probably some prefer wine and stuff....but me...I'm more of a beer drinker (or was anyway ).

Enzymes on the other hand are foreign to alot of people.....especially since the conventional Dr.'s dont usually recommend them. If they actually *did* something the doctors would surely be recommending them...right?? Soooo...they must just be some ground up powder in a capsule...they probably dont *do* anything....except maybe drain your pocketbook.

I think thats what alot of people would think.....not even being aware that enzymes are actually produced by the body...and sometimes we're not getting enough and need more. If enzymes required a prescription....you can bet the Dr.'s would be recommending them! OMG...if that were the case *everyone* would be familiar with them.

Every person walking in with a GI complaint would walk out with a script for enzymes....and oh yeah...cant forget the IBS diagnosis to go along with it. It would be like a "package deal".

Communion vs. Bud Light! Sad though.

....and the Bud Light is winning!

I'm not quite sure what that means??

You mean we have "closet" OMGers??? Please, not fair, join in! We're a little weird, but we're getting better.

I dont think they're actually wanting to be *seen* here.....thats why they're "closet" OMG'ers.

and yeah....we're a very weird bunch.

Oh, Rachel, I got prescribed Cytomel from a compounding pharmacy, you have to get it there to get time released .... maybe that's why yours was prescribed that way.

I never got Cytomel from the compounding pharmacy....it was Armour that I was getting there for awhile. I actually only took Cytomel for a brief time a long time ago after they zapped my thyroid. I tried the T4/T3 combo for a couple months but it wasnt helping with anything. That was when I still thought I was all messed up cuz of the Graves.

Thanks Carla. I will definitely stay with you guys. If it wasn't for this thread, I would be in the depths of despair because I wouldn't have a clue as to why I was suddenly allergic to almost EVERYTHING. Thanks so much for the warm reception and this thread!

Calicoe,

I'm in the "allergic to everything" club too. I'm hoping to work my way out of it soon though.

I'm glad the thread has helped you.....depths of despair is definately not a fun place to be. Been there....didnt like it one bit. This is much better.

Hope my story gives you some hope and some ideas!

Sherry,

How do you manage to put your whole story in a few short paragraphs??

I'm totally impressed by people who have this ability. For me....just a 1 hour visit with the doc will take up half of this page...and usually I'll have to go back and take some emoticons out or something.

I just dont have this talent I guess. Condensing or shortening a description just doesnt come easy for me....not sure if you guys have noticed that or not.

[Rachel--24]

I also noticed this year that I have chemical sensitivities to household cleaning solutions that I didn't have before. They make my eyes and lips swell, and give me a weird chemical burning feeling inside of my body.

I get that chemical "burning" feeling too....not so often anymore though. I've had to change alot of things in my environment....all the cleaners and detergents are chemical free. I dont use anything that is "scented" either....dont even have the scented candles or strong potpourri out.

[Rachel--24]

This article is a must read. Open Original Shared Link

Carla.....I never seen this one before!

I took a peek... SCIENTIFNESS ....I'm saving this one. Gonna read it while I eat my dinner.

[Rachel--24]

Today is 2 weeks from when IGgenex received the tick. They said about 2 weeks. Hopefully, I will have something in the mail.....

Did you get anything yet?? Hopefully it will come before the weekend!

Whey protein is great stuff Julie.

Yeah....and I totally wish I could take it!! Stupid broken sulfation problem gets in the way of everything!

[confusedks]

Hello everyone!!!

I have been exhausted from the NAET treatments by Dr B. I have been sleeping 12-16 hours a day, PLUS naps! I guess I need the sleep. But on the days I'm not totally comatose, I have had more energy.

I asked Dr B about heavy metals and she tested me and said that they are a huge problem, but there is no way I'm in any shape to be chelating/detoxing them. I was bummed about that. But at least we now know for future reference...we need to address metals.

She did a treatment for parasites and WOW! it made me useless! LOL! I saw her today and told her and she said that is a good thing because that means the parasites are partly what's causing my fatigue.

I have an appt with the Hematologist tomorrow morning. He wanted to see me, I don't see the point in seeing him, but whatever. Dr H and Dr B told me to tell him not to do anything with me...no iron shots or IV's. They don't want anymore reactions because it sets me back so much. Dr B said that the 2 anaphylactic reactions really set me back more than I realized. Bummer.

So that's pretty much all I have to report! I have kinda been reading along. I get on the computer usually once a day just to check emails.

[tabasco32]

Hello boils and ghouls,

So anyways I moved in with my grandma. Second house to get booted out of. First my dad, now my stepdad.EEKK Yeah I am a bad girl. Well not really, but they think I am. So my grandma's house is killing me. sssooo much dust. I can see like a inch of dust on her carpet. I sleep in dust.

So anyways Andrea there is a good VC that I buy at WF's. It's in a white bottle and it's like 11 bucks. Works just as well as the others and I don't react to it. It's powdered form.

Still job hunting. Man there's a lot of people looking right now. I need a job! I can't live with my grandma for long!!

[confused]

rachel.

Im getting very close to wanting to attempt the enzymes with something yummy. Since i have such an mold problem. Do you think i would do better trying ice cream first instead of cheese lol. Today i had an huge craving for nachos, baked ziti and gilled cheese with tomato soup. My hubby thought i was nuts, but that is what i wanted to eat. Of course i refrained and had an taco salad but im really want to try an ice cream from sonic lmao

paula

[aprilh]

Got a call from my dentist's office. He got his license revoked. Don't know how long it will take to fight to get it back.

I've scheduled with another dentist in the Portland area who does removals. We'll see what they put the price tag at. It will depend on whether they say I need more crowns or not. My dentist says I don't. I have the exam appointment on Wednesday. Will keep everyone posted.

Oh No!!! That stinks! I hope he gets his license back soon. How dare a dentist remove toxic chemically ridden metals from your mouth. That is such a crime.

Did you get anything yet?? Hopefully it will come before the weekend!

Not yet...I am going to the beach on Saturday for a week and I would lOVE to know before I go.

She has not shown any symptoms at all.

Hello everyone!!!

I have been exhausted from the NAET treatments by Dr B. I have been sleeping 12-16 hours a day, PLUS naps! I guess I need the sleep. But on the days I'm not totally comatose, I have had more energy.

I asked Dr B about heavy metals and she tested me and said that they are a huge problem, but there is no way I'm in any shape to be chelating/detoxing them. I was bummed about that. But at least we now know for future reference...we need to address metals.

She did a treatment for parasites and WOW! it made me useless! LOL! I saw her today and told her and she said that is a good thing because that means the parasites are partly what's causing my fatigue.

I have an appt with the Hematologist tomorrow morning. He wanted to see me, I don't see the point in seeing him, but whatever. Dr H and Dr B told me to tell him not to do anything with me...no iron shots or IV's. They don't want anymore reactions because it sets me back so much. Dr B said that the 2 anaphylactic reactions really set me back more than I realized. Bummer.

So that's pretty much all I have to report! I have kinda been reading along. I get on the computer usually once a day just to check emails.

Sounds like they are really getting to the "root" of the issues! That's great!

Yea....no more anaphylatic reactions - not good

[Calicoe]

Yeah.....I think it might be because beer is familiar to everyone....and heck...who doesnt wanna have a beer now and then?? Ok, well probably some prefer wine and stuff....but me...I'm more of a beer drinker (or was anyway ).

Enzymes on the other hand are foreign to alot of people.....especially since the conventional Dr.'s dont usually recommend them. If they actually *did* something the doctors would surely be recommending them...right?? Soooo...they must just be some ground up powder in a capsule...they probably dont *do* anything....except maybe drain your pocketbook.

I think thats what alot of people would think.....not even being aware that enzymes are actually produced by the body...and sometimes we're not getting enough and need more. If enzymes required a prescription....you can bet the Dr.'s would be recommending them! OMG...if that were the case *everyone* would be familiar with them.

Every person walking in with a GI complaint would walk out with a script for enzymes....and oh yeah...cant forget the IBS diagnosis to go along with it. It would be like a "package deal".

....and the Bud Light is winning!

I'm fairly weird, so I guess I belong here, lol. I was raised as a catholic, though, and I find that I do like beer a lot better - sorry guys. However, I just finished my last Belgian Bavik light beer this evening, so I should be starting my Candida diet this weekend. I find the whole enzyme issue intriguing. In my short time researching celiac disease and related issues, I have run across information on how enzymes and the lack thereof interact, and it has always been suspect in my own health and ethnicity (genetic factors in metabolizing alcohol and such, before this chronic illness). Anyway, I agree with the future IBS and enzyme pill industry. Just wait until someone figures out a pill specifically for celiac disease/GI - EVERYONE is going to be diagnosed with celiac disease.

I get that chemical "burning" feeling too....not so often anymore though. I've had to change alot of things in my environment....all the cleaners and detergents are chemical free. I dont use anything that is "scented" either....dont even have the scented candles or strong potpourri out.

Yeah, I just saw a doctor today to discuss my symptoms, and all of these earlier memories of sensitivities supposedly before I was sick are coming to the fore. As a teenager I loved perfume, but even then I couldn't wear a lot of it because it would give me migraine headaches. But the cleaning stuff is a new one, and unbearable. I have to convince my roommates that this directly affects my well-being, and the chemicals seem to enter my bloodstream from the air!

I saw a doctor today, and while not perfect (she sneered at the idea of Candida A.), she was supportive of my theory that Giardia may have triggered celiac disease/GI and is going to send me to an allergist and order colonoscopy/endoscopy. She also wasn't opposed to testing me for celiac disease. I can tell by her questions that she is also considering hypothyroidism as a possibility, and I looked at the symptom list and could check almost every single one.

I know this is not much to be hopeful about, but compared to my last doctor who told me I was lactose intolerant when I had a milk allergy, and diagnosed me for IBS and sent me to a CVS drugstore for over-the-counter medication, this is a start.

[Calicoe]

Hello boils and ghouls,

Still job hunting. Man there's a lot of people looking right now. I need a job! I can't live with my grandma for long!!

Yeah, I hear you on that one. I am also job hunting, and there seem to be hordes of people that line up for one job. Either that, or the fact that in my field (non-profits) there just aren't as many jobs.

I have to go and do cover letters, so I'll check in again tomorrow.

I am also going to buy some Oil of Oregano and Virgin Coconut Oil for the Candida. A few people told me it should help along with the diet.

Talk soon.

[Nanjkay]

Nancy, stick around....we can figure this stuff out.

I know!! I think of you all every single day and say to myself " It is amazing and lucky I found a group of women whose issues are so similar to mine...like finding a needle in a haystack. We're gonna figure it out, we will".

Right now I need someone to solve these pathway problems and I didnt feel that any of the Dr.'s I've seen have enough knowledge to really solve it...so I had no choice but to add another Dr. into the mix.

I dont see this as starting over...not at all. I see it as moving forward. You *need* a Dr. who understands this stuff. You have some of the labwork....you just need someone who knows what to do with it.

A couple of months ago, I joined the sulfur group on yahoo after you mentioned that I may have a sulfur sensitivity. A man who is a researcher/scientist had answered a few of my questions on the thread. He has written many papers on methylation pathways and seemed extremely knowledgeable. He's the one that told me to stay away from the methyl form of B12 because it could make a methyl/mercury compound cross the blood brain barrier in people who may have toxic mercury levels. Through word of mouth, he consults many with autism, CFS...basically people with complicated cases seem to find him. Before I knew I had Lyme I had asked if he could consult with me and a couple of nights ago, I wrote him again, updated him about the Lyme and he confirmed that he would consult with me but there will be a wait as this is not all he does.

One quote from him "I would suggest that you have the Vitamin Diagnostics, Inc., methylation panel run to find out if you do in fact have a partial block in your methylation cycle and glutathione depletion. This will tell you whether this aspect needs to be treated as well as the tickborne diseases. I have seen over 100 results of this panel so far, and am finding it very helpful."

AND

"I am currently finding that quite a few people who have had longterm Lyme disease do have a partial methylation cycle block, and I suspect that Lyme disease is one possible path into chronic fatigue syndrome for people who have inherited certain genomic polymorphisms that make them vulnerable to developing CFS. This is the subject of ongoing research at present, and I am leaving tomorrow for a small seminar with some Lyme experts, where I plan to propose this link and discuss it with them. "

He can make me no promises, at the least he can inform me as to where i don't have problems, at the most, he can help find where downstream the blockages are by ordering the right tests and helping to interpret them.

So this is good news.

How do you do with soy or flax?? Those are high in natural estrogen. For me they are very bad....especially soy. Its the PST enzyme that processes the phenols, amines, hormones neurotransmitters, etc. You need an adequate supply of sulfate in order for PST to function normally.

I don't really know, but I stay away from soy for 2 reasons...it is estrogenic, they are bad on my stomach. I have extremely low levels of estrogen, but stopped supplementing it after that fiasco 8 years ago and at the time only did it for a month before the poop hit the fan. Plus, I am estrogen dominant and have terrible endometriosis...so no estrogen for me!!!

I don't know how I do on phenols or amines...still have too many symptoms to keep them all straight despite my food journal.

If you have problems with the foods containing highy amounts of phenol...then it could be a problem with PST. If you can tolerate those foods then it probably isnt your problem.

This is my next area of research.

Thanks again for help, llengthy and good advice and words of support. I feel so sick so much of the time, at least I have large of chunks of time with peace of mind!!!

Nancy

[Rachel--24]

Ice! Burr, don't like ice, unless it's on my forehead.

ICE....omg....dont get it near me!!

It's been really hard just laying around on the couch (who would have thought that would come out of MY mouth, lol).

Yeah....who would have thunk it??!!

I think as soon as you have to go back to work you'll start missing the couch.

I think that's about it. Life's been too busy, so I need to rest up and prepare for school and college application stuff. Eep!

Birdy,

Thanks for the update.

Good luck with all the school preparations!

I have really noticed a difference in the last two months now that all of that over immune activity has settled down.

YAY Julie.

Hmmmm...I was just thinking maybe I need to address cytokines....but then I realized I've already eliminated *everything*.

Ummmm....ok what is the next step for reducing immune activity....I still have some work to do.

Nevermind...cuz I'm sure whatever it is I cant have it.

Told ya....the dang stupid pathway stuff is getting in the way of everything!

T is at Grandma's til Saturday so we have a mini school break.

Hope you enjoy your mini break Andrea.

Rachel, I am still planning on going to Germany, but we haven't been able to get the doctor to respond to email or faxes. They told us on the phone to email or fax because they had trouble understanding us. So, we still don't have an appt. There are three of us going together.

I cant wait till you're there and giving us the play by plays. Its gonna be really interesting.

Got a call from my dentist's office. He got his license revoked. Don't know how long it will take to fight to get it back.

Major bummer Andrea!

I'm sure this has something to do with mercury.

What is Cytomel?

Nancy...cytomel = T3.

I'm sure you dont want any of that right now!

Well, the doctor said my foot is healing just fine, so that's a relief.

Good news Donna.

If I can't slam on the breaks if necessary it becomes dangerous.

Yeah.....better stay off the road till its all better.

If you get any crazy ideas....let me know ahead of time so we dont end up "meeting" on the El Camino.

[aprilh]

Does CFS = Cystic Fibrosis?

I have a friend of a friend who just had two kids diagnosed with CFS. How sad! Plus the older child was diagnosed with Epilepsy and the older son with ADHD. Something is going on!

This might be good info for them to have.

[AndreaB]

So it looks like I'll be out the whole 6 weeks...I was hoping to save 1 of those weeks for the other surgery so I'll probably have to use PTO time instead. I see him again on the 28th.

Sorry about having to be out the full 6 weeks. Glad the foot is healing nicely though. Can you be up and about more even though you can't drive.

I just dont have this talent I guess. Condensing or shortening a description just doesnt come easy for me....not sure if you guys have noticed that or not.

So that's pretty much all I have to report! I have kinda been reading along. I get on the computer usually once a day just to check emails.

Thanks for the update. Good to hear that the NAET is addressing things that need to be dealt with. It seems like you need a lot of sleep for healing. Good news on your alert days being more alert. Keep us posted as you can.

So anyways Andrea there is a good VC that I buy at WF's. It's in a white bottle and it's like 11 bucks. Works just as well as the others and I don't react to it. It's powdered form.

Still job hunting. Man there's a lot of people looking right now. I need a job! I can't live with my grandma for long!!

I'll look for it.....thanks. I'd prefer the powder form to the capsules.

Jobs are definately not that easy to come by right now. Hope you get something soon and can deal with the dust in the meantime.

Of course i refrained and had an taco salad but im really want to try an ice cream from sonic lmao

As someone who has developed a craving for ice cream and lots, frequently.....I'd have to caution against the ice cream unless you don't cave in to cravings. I've gained 10-15 pounds just since I started eating ice cream so much. I didn't need to gain weight.

Oh No!!! That stinks! I hope he gets his license back soon. How dare a dentist remove toxic chemically ridden metals from your mouth. That is such a crime.

Yeah, it does stink! He went up against the big wigs and lost. He's a mercury removal pioneer and has been at this for 20 years. I'm kinda stressing about seeing a new dentist and the probably cost increase. The only other thing I can do is wait and hope he gets his license back soon. Seems like these things normally take time though.

IHe can make me no promises, at the least he can inform me as to where i don't have problems, at the most, he can help find where downstream the blockages are by ordering the right tests and helping to interpret them.

So this is good news.

Sounds good......keep us posted.

[Rachel--24]

Hello everyone!!!

Kassandra!!

I was just gonna ask Carla how you're doing.

Glad you're having more energy on your non-comatose days!

Sounds like your body really needs the rest.

I agree....better to know about the metals now. Even if you cant do anything about them right now....you still have the benefit of knowing...as opposed to not knowing and just never addressing them. In the long run its a good thing.

She did a treatment for parasites and WOW! it made me useless! LOL! I saw her today and told her and she said that is a good thing because that means the parasites are partly what's causing my fatigue.

Wow a tonage of parasites!!

Its all making me very curious as to what will show up with my new voodoo lady (Dr. T.).

I have an appt with the Hematologist tomorrow morning. He wanted to see me, I don't see the point in seeing him, but whatever.

Yeah...we'll call him "Dr. Setback". Dont let him try anything Kassandra! Not that you would.

Bummer that it set you back....but it seems like the new stuff will help pull you out of it.

[AndreaB]

I think as soon as you have to go back to work you'll start missing the couch.

I'm thinking this is probably right.

Does CFS = Cystic Fibrosis?

I think it's Chronic Fatique Syndrome

[Rachel--24]

Hello boils and ghouls,

Do we have any boils here??

Where are all the boils??

So anyways I moved in with my grandma. Second house to get booted out of. First my dad, now my stepdad.EEKK Yeah I am a bad girl. Well not really, but they think I am. So my grandma's house is killing me. sssooo much dust. I can see like a inch of dust on her carpet. I sleep in dust.

Awww Lisa. I hope you can get a job soon. Maybe you can get rid of the dust?? If you wore one of those masks you might be able to clean and vaccuum??

[Rachel--24]

rachel.

Im getting very close to wanting to attempt the enzymes with something yummy. Since i have such an mold problem. Do you think i would do better trying ice cream first instead of cheese lol. Today i had an huge craving for nachos, baked ziti and gilled cheese with tomato soup. My hubby thought i was nuts, but that is what i wanted to eat. Of course i refrained and had an taco salad but im really want to try an ice cream from sonic lmao

paula

Paula,

I dont know how you would do with ice cream because if yeast is an issue you may still have problems. The only way to know is to try stuff out.....just dont go crazy...if you have ice cream try not to rachel it.