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Just caught up reading after several days away plus awhile where my internet connection wouldn't work. Finally back on after 4-5 days!

Need to go back and absorb some info...

Sherry


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Rachel--24 Collaborator

Nora,

Yes, I'm one who definately has problems with sulfur metabolism (like most cases of autism).

There is a block somewhere and the sulfur is accumulating to toxic levels....rather than being converted and going on to produce glutathione.

I am deficient in glutathione. :(

Whenever I get "overloaded" and feel the most toxic...my nails are INCREDIBLY hard. It can happen overnight....that quickly my nails can become indestructible. Its not the normal "strong healthy" nail type feeling. Its definately not normal but it resolves once the toxicity goes down.

Obviously sulfur is essential for detoxification but its also used by the body for other things...including skin, hair and nails. It keeps the nails strong and healthy.

I think when my bucket is full...there is just WAY too much sulfur and its very evident in my "unbendable" "unbreakable" "can withstand any amount of abuse" nails. :blink:

Some might consider this to be a GOOD thing. However, I can assure you that its not. :(

dlp252 Apprentice
I'll be sure and remember this for when I'm better.....I gotta try *everything*.....I will add bellini to my list. :D

It's good! :)

So yeah...now I pretty much dont care. :lol:

...

I dunno. Donna.....do we have Palomino?? :unsure:

Pretty much sums it up for me too, lol. :lol: I just don't care. I have some OCD tendencies, but apparently CLEANING isn't one of them! :lol: I don't think I EVER cared about it.

I've never heard of Palomino so I'm thinking not. :unsure:

confused Community Regular

Does anyone know if their is an link between cancer in lymph area and anything like metals, lyme or anything. Today i got an phone call that my 20 something cousin is in the hospital with collerbone cance(well teh tumor is by the collarbone). This is the third family member that has gotten cancer in this area in the last few months.

I know part of it can be genetics, but why is it happening to people in the 20's, 30's and 40's. I just dont understand.

It just scared the crap out of me

paula

CarlaB Enthusiast

Palomino is at Palomino.com .... the address in San Francisco is

345 Spear Street

San Francisco, CA 94105

Phone:(415) 512-7400

It's their only CA location. :)

Before I got sick one of the main reasons I liked to go to the movies was the POPCORN. I always got the BIGGEST size so that I could get a refill.

....and I made sure that I ate enough to get seconds. :D

Yeah, I love the popcorn, too, and eat lots of it. But since I've eliminated the worms, I eat much less. :(

HA HA.....he got busted!! :lol:

No, I explained it wrong ... it's hard to explain on the internet ... he saw her like I did, then STARED me down to avoid looking at her. I only caught him because he WASN'T looking! LOL

Carla...first things first....does it HEAT you up?? Thats the most important thing. ;)

Next...what are the health benefits? :D

A little, yes, but not like a sauna.

It's like sitting out in the sun, it helps you to produce Vitamin D naturally. Mercola's tanning beds have been designed to minimize EMF's and bad radiation.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Does anyone know if their is an link between cancer in lymph area and anything like metals, lyme or anything. Today i got an phone call that my 20 something cousin is in the hospital with collerbone cance(well teh tumor is by the collarbone). This is the third family member that has gotten cancer in this area in the last few months.

I know part of it can be genetics, but why is it happening to people in the 20's, 30's and 40's. I just dont understand.

Genetics is a big part of it....but also lifestyle, environment, diet, immune system, etc. All these different things can be factors in a person's susceptibility to Cancer.

Yes, heavy metals and other toxins can play a role.....especially because they tend to supress the immune system.

Toxins from root canals have been linked to cancer.

Today we know that the toxins made by the bacteria that live by the billions in root-canal teeth contain the most toxic organic substance known to man -thio-ethers. Thio-ethers are 1000 times more toxic than botulism toxin, which used to be considered the most toxic organic substance.

So, from a practical standpoint, one would be well-advised to worry less about anthrax and smallpox, and instead, focus on root canals which are much more likely to cause you personal harm. In addition to thio-ethers, other severe toxins from these root-canal bacteria include thio-ethanols and mercaptans which have been found in the tumors of women who have breast cancer, draining through the lymphatic system down the cervical chain of lymph nodes and ultimately in to the breast tissue.

In the 1950s. Reinhold Voll, a German M.D., using an electro-acupuncture biofeedback system he had developed, discovered that each tooth in the mouth relates to a specific acupuncture meridian. He found that if a tooth became infected or diseased, the organ on the same meridian would also become unhealthy. (Conversely, he found that a diseased organ could cause a problem with its corresponding tooth.)

When you have a root canal, or even a big filling, or crown or anything that is not compatible with the body, it sets up an interference field, blocking or altering the energy meridian passing through it. It will affect different parts along that meridian, different organ systems in the body. And usually will cause it to have a problem as well.

These next two are quotes are from Dr Hal Huggins, D.D.S. in a lecture to the Cancer Control Society.

Dr. Issels, a German physician, recommends extraction of root canal teeth as part of his protocol for terminal cancer patients.

Over the last 40 years with 16,000 patients, he has observed a 24% total remission rate.

He started on them when they had already had their chemo, surgery, radiation, then they came to him. That is having 3 strikes against you and a fast ball down the tube there before you get up to the plate. He turned around 24% of 16,000 patients over a period of 40 years. What is the first thing he did? Have a dentist take out the root canal teeth.

He published his observations a number of times in the umpired medical journal of Germany. He was careful to send all extracted dead teeth, root canals, and tonsils to outside pathology labs where they were almost to the last sample documented with multiple infections, atrophy, hyperplasia, etc."

He is discussing a 24 year old relative with brain cancer...

Three tumours growing, three root canals, and she is pregnant, and it is hard to overcome the stress to the body that pregnancy does, much less trying to overcome cancer, much less trying to overcome the root canals.

So we took out those 3 root canals when she had 3-6 months to live. And that was 6 years ago, and she is still alive today, and MRI can't find the tumour anymore. It went away.

So there are a lot of things, and this is just a tip of this giant chunk of ice under the water that has been making us think we are normal when we have all of these things going on in our body that we caught at the dental office...it is time you were informed.

Don't rush out and have your fillings removed because we get 20 phone calls a day from people who say they rushed out and had their fillings removed and "I am in worse shape than I have ever been in the whole of my life." Get yourself educated first."

Here are two case studies of women who were healed completely from advanced "diseases" when their root canal filled teeth were properly extracted: (I edited these quotes)

Case Study #1:

Olga (not her real name) had been battling breast cancer which had spread to many other organs since the early 1990's. She figured it was the result of a particular incident in her life. In 1986, you may remember that the Russian nuclear power plant in Chernobyl in the Ukraine exploded and caused the greatest nuclear accident disaster in history. Olga lived in Kiev at the time, about 90 miles due north of Chernobyl.

Of course, the radiation from Chernobyl seemed to be an obvious cause. When I asked her if she had any root canal filled teeth, however, she reluctantly admitted that she had ELEVEN. I was shocked. Of the many hundreds of cancer patients I had dealt with, I had never heard of anyone with that many root canals.

Once I described to Olga the toxic load these teeth were putting on her system, she agreed with me that having them extracted by a biological dentist was essential to her recovery from her cancer.

It is now October, 2007. I heard from Olga a few days ago. She is finally, for the first time in over 20 years, enjoying complete good health. Her cancer is gone and all her tests are completely clean. She is in the process of writing her story for publication in my "Cancer-Free" newsletter. She is eager to share her experience with all cancer patients and their caregivers.

Case Study #2:

In late 2006, a friend introduced me to Judy (not her real name). Judy, a 51 year old mother of one son, described to me her 12-year history with Lyme Disease. All of her joints were extremely painful and she could hardly walk - much less work or drive a car. After the Lyme Disease diagnosis, various doctors had tried several different drugs. None of them did anything but temporarily relieve some of the pain.

Again, shortly after we met, I asked Judy about the condition of her jaw - particularly the root canals. Sure enough, she had four left in her mouth. Two had been previously removed several years before and she had a partial plate in the upper front area of her jaw.

Particularly interesting in Judy's case was the condition of the gum where one of the root canals had been removed four years before.

In testing the gum where this tooth had been, Dr. Tate found it had just as much inflammation as if the tooth had never been extracted. He said this was common when root canals are extracted by dentists or oral surgeons who are not familiar with them. Removal of a root canal filled tooth needs to include removal of the ligament under the tooth and a portion of the jaw as well. This procedure is explained in detail in Dr. George Meinig's book "Root Canal Cover-up."

Since the completion of her dental reconstruction in March, 2007, Judy's "Lyme Disease" has disappeared. She now walks three miles a day, has gained back about twenty pounds, is able to drive her car and feels wonderful for the first time in about 13 years.

Wolfgang Woepple MD who runs the Hufeland Klinic, a famous integrated cancer treatment facility in Germany, requires that all patients have their root canal filled teeth and mercury fillings removed before embarking on their treatment protocols. His clinic has an impressive record for increasing survival time for many patients with "incurable" cancer.

Klinghardt also advises the removal of root canaled teeth and amalgams in patients with any type of chronic illness.

Its not something for anyone to rush into though.

This is just one example of a cause for cancer....one out of many.

Personally, if I still had any root canals or amalgams and I were diagnosed with cancer....this is the first thing I'd look into. Those toxins can have devestating effects on the immune system and on a persons health.

Just something to think about.

confused Community Regular

Thanks rachel. So im thinking that my mom was smart to have all her teeth taken out and to get dentures.

Im not sure about the status with my other family members and there teeth. I do know one aunt has really bad teeth but that is due to an addiction.

I am just thinking of ways i need to protect myself from this happening to. I know it really gave me an wake up call to be healthy again, and i will do everythiing to try to keep this from happening to me and my kids.

It just breaks my heart that it seems cancer is running to rampid in my family and i feel i need to educate them.

paula


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Rachel--24 Collaborator
I am just thinking of ways i need to protect myself from this happening to. I know it really gave me an wake up call to be healthy again, and i will do everythiing to try to keep this from happening to me and my kids.

It just breaks my heart that it seems cancer is running to rampid in my family and i feel i need to educate them.

Paula...knowledge is power. Its good that you're informing yourself and your kids can only benefit from that. :)

If I had been informed....most likely I would be healthy right now. I let a regular dentist remove my amalgams (with no safety measures) and then put mixed metals in my mouth (with 2 amalgams remaining). It was a huge burden to my system.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Palomino is at Palomino.com .... the address in San Francisco is

345 Spear Street

San Francisco, CA 94105

Phone:(415) 512-7400

It's their only CA location. :)

Thanks Carla. :)

Donna, we'll have to remember this for when we're all better. We'll have to meet up for Palomino bellini's. :D

Nanjkay Apprentice
Nancy,

Dr. S told me to take it on an empty stomach. Any ideas why? I'm going to definitely start researching this. :)

Also, I'm going to start on those peptide allergy shots again. They held me at a semi-stable point post-steroids and pre-lyme treatment. I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle with these allergies. I need some relief, and don't want to feel trapped anymore by all the reactions. My bucket is FULL! Darn you toxins! FULL!! :rolleyes:

Birdy

Birdy-

Quoted from one of my herb books "Quercetin directly inhibits several of the initial steps of inflammation and allergy." And my book says to take it twenty minutes before meals...I guess to have it in your system and be available to inhibit those initial steps of an allergic reaction. I never just take it in the middle of the day like a proteolitic enzyme, I only take it before food. I take up to 400 mg per meal.

I know how you feel about the allergies. I am so sorry. I am at the end of my rope in a different way, so I feel for you, I do. :( What are peptides? Are they related to the bioflavanoids? Some people have allergic reactions to Quercetin because it is a bioflavonoid like rutin.

Nancy

Nancy

CarlaB Enthusiast

Today I rode on the back of my FIL's Harley. :D When I got off, I could feel all my lymph nodes. Seems it did a better job than my rebounder.

My Uncle in law has leukemia. He would ride his motorcycle and for years did fine with it (over 10 years). Then he got a van and within a couple years was in need of a bone marrow transplant. He started riding his motorcycle again and all his numbers have come down to a better range. :)

My FIL said that he'd take me on a weekly ride, that I was his science experiment. LOL He said he also feels better after he goes for a ride. He gets what I think is peripheral neuropathy in his arm, and has some leg pain that I don't know much about.

So, ha, now the other threads will talk about all the crazy OMG'ers going out to get motorcycles for healing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, though, it stirred up toxins ... I took some cholestyramine and extra glutathione to help.

I'll be gone a couple days, driving my grandmother back to NC (six hour drive). I'll be back Tues. night.

I used to take Quercitin for seasonal allergies. It helped a lot.

mftnchn Explorer
One quote from him "I would suggest that you have the Vitamin Diagnostics, Inc., methylation panel

Nancy, this is the lab I am waiting for, SAM/SAH results and also ammonia levels. I HOPE to get them this week. They were drawn June 30!!!!

Sherry

mftnchn Explorer
My back and neck have been hurting so bad the last 2 days.

Whats going on with me I wonder?

For me it is usually either Lyme or a detox issue. I push my binders plus do epsom salt baths, ecoffee, etc.

Sherry

Rachel--24 Collaborator
They were drawn June 30!!!!

June 30th! :blink:

Wow...and I was freaking out because my OAT results took 4 weeks!

That seems like an unreasonably long time for test results. I hope I never have to wait that long for anything to come back... because I obviously dont have that much patience. :P

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Today I rode on the back of my FIL's Harley. :D When I got off, I could feel all my lymph nodes. Seems it did a better job than my rebounder.

My FIL said that he'd take me on a weekly ride, that I was his science experiment.

:lol::lol:

Thats funny!

Motorcycles for detox!! :lol:

WOO-HOO...the next great discovery for lymphatic drainage!! All of the OMG'ers will be riding Harley's instead of jumping on rebounders, getting lymph massages or doing the "fish" dance on a chi machine. :lol:

Too bad I dont like motorcycles. :(

Almost fell off when I was a teenager....they scare me. :ph34r:

Rachel--24 Collaborator

After contemplating this....I think I have to put "motorcycle rides" on the bottom of my list of possible treatments.

If they're that effective at stirring up toxins...its probably not good for me. :(

With my pathway being all broken and stuff....where will all the toxins go?? :unsure:

So yeah....I think I better leave everything where it is.....try not to "loosen" anything up until they actually have a way out.

Maybe this is why I never did well with some of the detox treatments. They're mobilizing toxins but they cant get out. I just end up reacting to everything. :rolleyes:

The *only* thing that I seemed to tolerate was IV DMPS....I'm not sure why but it went pretty smoothly. But still...there wasnt much coming out.

Too much sauna or anything else would have made me really sick. Eventually I stopped trying all that stuff and actually felt better.

The last time I was at my Dr.'s office a newbie "attempted" to draw my blood for the thyroid and CD57 tests. He missed my vein BUT I didnt cry this time. :D

Anyways I was scratching the area where the needle had went in...it looked kind of "rashy" and it itched. This always happens after my IV's or blooddraws....but it doesnt last long.

One of the nurses asked why it was red....I said I'd been scratching because it ITCHES.

The newbie who had missed my vein said "Why would it itch...are you allergic to metal or something??" :huh:

Ummmm....YES...obviously my body is not too fond of the metals right now! :blink:

Its not very happy with what its dealing with on the inside and it does not welcome metal needles being inserted into my veins...(and especially unsuccessfully). :o

I wonder if when all of this improves my body will be less reactive to the metals touching my skin?? You think I'll be able to wear my anklets and bracelets again??

AndreaB Contributor
Today I rode on the back of my FIL's Harley. :D When I got off, I could feel all my lymph nodes. Seems it did a better job than my rebounder.

So, ha, now the other threads will talk about all the crazy OMG'ers going out to get motorcycles for healing. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Seriously, though, it stirred up toxins ... I took some cholestyramine and extra glutathione to help.

I'll be gone a couple days, driving my grandmother back to NC (six hour drive). I'll be back Tues. night.

:lol::lol:

Have a safe trip and we'll see you Tues night/Wed morning. :)

Too bad I dont like motorcycles. :(

Almost fell off when I was a teenager....they scare me. :ph34r:

Me neither and they also scare me, but I never fell off of one (or even almost).

I wonder if when all of this improves my body will be less reactive to the metals touching my skin?? You think I'll be able to wear my anklets and bracelets again??

I think you will, but I'm not a professional so don't take my word for it. :P It would just make sense that they wouldn't bother you anymore, unless you are truly allergic to some metal.

confusedks Enthusiast

Rachel or anyone who has taken Alinia,

Did you have stomach pain from it? And constipation? Dr. H had to have me go to half the dose because I was in so much pain...very strange for me.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel or anyone who has taken Alinia,

Did you have stomach pain from it? And constipation? Dr. H had to have me go to half the dose because I was in so much pain...very strange for me.

I only took it for 3 days so I didnt notice any constipation from it (plus I'm always on the C side anyway).

I didnt notice any stomach pain from it either....but I dont think I could have handled it longterm. Just the 3 days was enough for me. I didnt repeat the cycle because I felt like my body wasnt ready for it.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Oh yeah...Kassandra....are you taking any type of toxin binder?

I was always told that the parasites are packing lots of metals. They are holding onto alot of mercury and other metals and when you start killing the parasites those metals are released. Toxin binders are highly recommended.

Maybe you can talk to your NAET practitioner about that? I dont know if I'd recommend chlorella because I believe its high sulfur (it got me really sick) but maybe theres something else you could take.

Also, if the treatment is working you may need help getting the "debris" out. It could be blocking you and causing constipation. When Dr. Amy put me on Alinia she recommended that I do colonics during the treatment. I didnt do that though because I wasnt on it long enough and also colonics scare me. :ph34r:

nora-n Rookie

About the cancer, the latest officcial thing do do to help, is loads of vitamin D.

Just check out the www.vitamindcouncil.com and there should be plenty on vitamin D helping the immune system. There is enough research on that to back it up, too.

The other thing is LDN, because it works indirectly normalizing the immune system. But it is not main-stream although it is an old medicine without patents. Just google it. It does not work on its own, it just normalizes the endorphins and the immune system then normalizes, it works indirectly.

Probably some com+any is going to make an analogue to patent the stuff, like with Lyrica which is an analogue for GABA (I think).

It may be hard to get a prescription for LDN. There are some doctors who do phon e consultations, though, and revia can be bougt on the internet too and it is not expensive.

My DD2 still has tachycardia and insomnia after her two graves episodes. The second time they wanted to zap her thyroid or yank it out, but she did not want to and I suggeste she try gluten-free and her stomach got well within two days and her graves just stopped. Gluten is a known trigger for graves, as well as a lot of other things, especially things you are allergic to.

It is possible to be allergic to metals, and this chech doctor living in Sweden invented the Melisa test for allergies to metals. All the other tests are useless but this one is the good one. Klinghardt comments on it and says it is accurate. Yes, metal allergies can stir up the antibodies.

My DD2 has TPO antibodies too so she is somewhat hypo now. The graves antibodies are either on, or off. When not active, they are supposed to be 0 but i am not sure.

My TSH rose on ldn , so the theory is that I have blocking TRAb antibodies below the detection limit.

Elaine Moore can answer all those antibody questions on the forums she frequents, i know of two forums. She does answer.

My DD2 also has inflamed tonsils and they would not take them out since she is not bad enough.

I mean, is a racing heart and insomnia not enough?

Open Original Shared Link check the symptoms almost on the end here. We might have to go private.

nora

dlp252 Apprentice

Okay the discussion on cancer caught my attention, lol. Mine isn't cancer YET but I have to wonder (I think I said this before) how much the precancer growth has to do with lyme, metals, etc. I have two root canals...the most recent just a couple of years ago...the other one about 12 years ago...that's right in line with the beginning of all the health issues, dental work, extreme emotional trauma and my trip to Vermont. I guess any ONE of those issues would have been enough to trigger stuff. :rolleyes:

Ooooh, exciting outing today. A friend and her dog are picking me up and taking me either to Starbucks or to another place for lunch. I'd prefer Starbucks because I know the damage will be minimal there, lol, but I'm just excited to get out of the house and I get to play with a dog!! :lol:

Personally, if I still had any root canals or amalgams and I were diagnosed with cancer....this is the first thing I'd look into. Those toxins can have devestating effects on the immune system and on a persons health.

Perhaps I should look into it, lol.

Donna, we'll have to remember this for when we're all better. We'll have to meet up for Palomino bellini's. :D

Ooooh girls day out!!!! Bring it on! :lol:

Today I rode on the back of my FIL's Harley. :D When I got off, I could feel all my lymph nodes. Seems it did a better job than my rebounder.

:lol:

The newbie who had missed my vein said "Why would it itch...are you allergic to metal or something??" :huh:

Something to ask about if you have them again...when I had my foot surgery, they put my IV in my upper arm where it bends. I mentioned something to the nurse about not bending my arm and she said I could bend it because they don't use metal anymore...they use a really flexible plastic (like the tubing connected to the IV). Not that plastic is great for any of us, but it might be better than metal. Maybe they will get (or could get) something like this.

About the cancer, the latest officcial thing do do to help, is loads of vitamin D.

Hum, I wonder if this is why my growth didn't change much in two years? :unsure: I was taking a lot of vitamin D for a few months during that time.

tabasco32 Apprentice
For me its toxicity. I think most (if not all) people who have Lyme, heavy metals, chemical burden, parasites, candida, etc.....have some type of neck pain/stiffness.

I think it has to do with the lymphatic system...too much toxins in the body.

I have really bad neck pain right now too. Since moving with my grandma I have gotten bad neck pain, head pain, eye pain and nose pain. Real bad. I wonder if it's dust or mold or both. :( I wake up with swollen eyes and I can't sneeze this stuff out like my grandma can.

Me and my mom who has OCD are going to clean my grandmas house today. It's sooo bad. I'm sort of scared. Oh and my ears feel clogged up to. But the zeolite helps. I just put it in my nose and eyes and ears and it helps some.

tabasco32 Apprentice
Motorcycles for detox!! :lol:

WOO-HOO...the next great discovery for lymphatic drainage!! All of the OMG'ers will be riding Harley's instead of jumping on rebounders, getting lymph massages or doing the "fish" dance on a chi machine. :lol:

My grandma has a harley in here garage. :lol:

tabasco32 Apprentice
Palomino is at Palomino.com .... the address in San Francisco is

345 Spear Street

San Francisco, CA 94105

Phone:(415) 512-7400

It's their only CA location. :)

I've been there before. I'ts good and a nice location. Right by the bay brige. There's a Gordon Birch right next to it and that's real good. I'ts on Embarcadero I think? I miss SF. I use to live in Daly City. :(

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