Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Green12]

My depression comes from the pain. There hasnt been a day without pain since september 2005. Its wearing me down. I try not to think about it and block it out, and be a noraml 25 year old happy girl like I should be. But the pain is always there. Im scarred to be alone.

I dont know what to do somtimes, is this all that ive got?

I need help.

any one else can add if they want.

Christine,

I don't have the knowledge to help, I wish I could. I feel in over my head with my own health problems so I understand how you feel. All I can say is just hang in there. Keep looking for the answers, I believe they will come. Maybe not all at once, but they will come. In your search you will find clues and little bits of information that will fill in pieces of the puzzle, along the way you might connect with different people who will add to that, all leading you in a direction of a solution.

Take it one day at a time, that's all you can do.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

[dlp252]

My depression comes from the pain. There hasnt been a day without pain since september 2005. Its wearing me down. I try not to think about it and block it out, and be a noraml 25 year old happy girl like I should be. But the pain is always there. Im scarred to be alone.

I dont know what to do somtimes, is this all that ive got?

Christine, I'm so sorry, I thought I had read this post but I completely missed this! You've described well how I feel sometimes too...worn down. It DOES wear you down. I have a friend who has fibromyalgia, very bad. On top of that she has migraines and tension headaches and carpel tunnel. She is in pain every day of her life. I know she gets down from time to time because we've talked about that. I can't give you an answer as to what to do, but I can see if she can offer any suggestions on how to cope. I know she relies on her faith a lot, but I also know she needs more than that. I DON'T believe it's all you've got. My friend and I have talked about that too because we've both just had enough of doctors, but yet can't seem to stop trying to find that one thing that will help. I think earlier this week I was feeling especially worn down...the health thing, work, my possible pre-cancer and the fact that that is still hanging over me head. I wish I could help more.

Yeah...I love that!! Clothes are wrinkled...gotta buy new stuff. Uh-oh...stuff is dirty...no time to wash...gotta buy new ones. Ooops got a little stain...probably wont come out...can't have that...gotta go shopping.

Yeah...any excuse to get new clothes!!

I don't need much of an excuse to go shopping, lol.

I've been reading everyones posts and haven't laughed this hard in a long time! And all because I worshiped the porcelain God for three hours after my banana

Love you guys!!!!

Love you back, lol. Well, I did NOT inhale my banana before I ate it today, but I did eat FOUR eggs in my egg salad, so I may just be visiting your friend the porcelain god later, lol.

[dlp252]

Making split pea soup with onions and ham bone.... wish me luck.

Ha, good luck. I burn mine half the time, the other half of the time it turns out pretty good. I've never tried it with a ham bone though.

[tarnalberry]

Dry cleaning is funny... you don't normally need to do it even when clothing labels say you should. Companies will use the exact same fabric and put 'dry clean only' on the stuff that's made into women's clothes, and 'cold wash only, do not dry' on the stuff made into men's clothes. The dryer is torture on a lot of fabrics, of course, but I don't dry clean anything. Heck, I think I'll even be trying to manually wash my long wool winter coat.

[dlp252]

Companies will use the exact same fabric and put 'dry clean only' on the stuff that's made into women's clothes, and 'cold wash only, do not dry' on the stuff made into men's clothes. The dryer is torture on a lot of fabrics, of course, but I don't dry clean anything. Heck, I think I'll even be trying to manually wash my long wool winter coat.

Cold wash being the key apparently, lol. I once shrunk a dry clean only dress I owned by hand washing, but for some ridiculous reason I thought it would be a good idea to wash it in hot water, lol. I'm not wise in the ways of domesticity.

[tarnalberry]

Cold wash being the key apparently, lol. I once shrunk a dry clean only dress I owned by hand washing, but for some ridiculous reason I thought it would be a good idea to wash it in hot water, lol. I'm not wise in the ways of domesticity.

lol :-)

when in doubt, cold/cold, no dryer. :-) and you don't need woolight or other 'delicate clothing' wash if you generally use a non-harsh detergent. (I've been using eco-friendly (non-petroleum based) liquid detergent for a number of years, and that stuff works great on all my clothes, and most of it is 'delicate/hand wash' due to fabric type.)

the only things I put in hot/warm water are sheets, towels, cotton underwear, and socks. :-P

if only there was a 'scalding' setting for the kitchen towels. ;-)

[dlp252]

if only there was a 'scalding' setting for the kitchen towels. ;-)

I need one of those for my whole house, lol!

[Green12]

Wooo hoooo my split pea soup was a success! I even had dumplings (made out of brown rice flour) ... I didn't burn it or anything!!! AND I ate it about an hour ago and my tummy seems to be doing fine so far. I can't believe I've been driven to learn to cook... good googly moogly

Split pea soup, yummy! I love split pea soup, it would be on the top of my comfort foods list. Make me up a bowl, I'm coming over

It's so great you are turning into quite the cook Floridian. Good for you!!

[miamia]

It helps me to see it all written down too, for myself also.

It seems like anything with a lot of pigment gives me some problems....

My doctors have tried to put me on various drugs for my symptoms of pain, arthritis in jaw and neck, splitting headaches, mucus, and head pressure. My depression comes from the pain. There hasnt been a day without pain since september 2005. Its wearing me down. I try not to think about it and block it out, and be a noraml 25 year old happy girl like I should be. But the pain is always there. Im scarred to be alone.

I dont know what to do somtimes, is this all that ive got?

I need help.

any one else can add if they want.

[manja]

So now, it's back to concentrating on eliminating corn and MSG. I may have to give up my beloved nuts and nut butters.

[deco2339]

Interesting that you mention meat. Aren't cattle fed corn?

Maybe only eat beef products from cows fed grass? Just a thought.

Interesting that you mention meat. Aren't cattle fed corn?

Maybe only eat beef products from cows fed grass? Just a thought.

[Fiddle-Faddle]

You know, that's what I LOVE about this board...you can come here and talk about anything and usually there's at least ONE person who's had a similar experience or symptom.

Well, girls, I've had something in the last 24 hours that is really messing me up. I've had headaches, puffiness, bad stomach bloating, gas and lots of rumbling noises. My knee also started hurting this morning too... Also my whole abdominal area feel sore...just in general, nothing specific.

I'm thinking it's one of these: brown rice, agave nectar, green tea or the chinese veggies (Cascadian Farms with no seasonings).

I've eaten brown rice before with no problems, although I had 1/2 cup last night and 1/2 cup for breakfast this morning and maybe that was just too much too close together.

I've had the agave nectar, but not since before I went on the SCD.

I've had the green tea before but not for several weeks.

I had the chinese veggies last week without problem...it has green beans, broccoli, carrots, mushrooms (don't eat them, and there aren't many anyway--only found 1 piece), onions (which I don't eat) and some other type of root type veggie (don't think its ginger, but not sure exactly what it is). I eat green beans and broccoli all the time without problem...don't eat mushrooms at all anymore since I'm allergic to mold (not anaphalacticSP??), and I've never liked onions so don't eat them. What ever that root veggie is I like it but there isn't much there anyway.

Ugg, lol. I am gaining weight because I'm constantly hungry, and this is just making everything worse, lol.

Some green teas contain barley--read box carefully!!!!

[dlp252]

Some green teas contain barley--read box carefully!!!!

YIKES!! Didn't know that! It's Bigelow I think...I thought I looked at the ingredients, but I guess we're finding out that THAT doesn't necessarily mean it isn't processed with something like that. Thanks...(had some yesterday though, so I guess I'll be finding out soon if that was it, lol).

I also had the knee issue when I was on gluten and dairy. It all went away.

Found out I am reacting to corn as well (drouzy, tired, flu like symptoms). Check your medication, vitamins, toothpast and so forth. Corn is in even more things than gluten.

What is the corn/MSG link with nuts and nut butter? I love those as well.

No link I think, but I'm so addicted to the nuts and nut butters, that I'm thinking it might be contributing a little to the current nagging symptoms. If I can stay away from any of them for a week or so, I can then test one at a time to see if they're causing problems....I just so darned addicted, lol.

Fortunately I don't have to take a lot of meds--just Zantac right now. I'm sure that has corn something in it, but my doctor wants me to take it until July or August. I have to have another endoscope/biopsy and after that is done I can stop the Zantac. We're trying to control the acids to see if they are affecting cell changes in my bile ducts, otherwise it's probably pre-cancer changes. I take a Zyrtek ocassionally for allergies, so I'm sure that has some corn/msg too. I did stop all vitamins and I think I felt a little better right away after doing that. I think half of them said no corn, but the others didn't.

My biggest problem right now is not being able to make myself start. I do okay for a couple of days then I just give in to my cravings for stuff. The two hardest things for me to give up are going to be my morning Bumble Bars with nut butter, lol. Gosh, the thought of going without makes me shiver, lol. THAT has to mean something...don't they say we're addicted to the things that give us problems.

[dlp252]

Isn't that the truth!! I've been fantasying about a big 'ol chili dog!

Ha, I brought "chili" for lunch today...no dogs but close enough, lol.

[Green12]

What is the corn/MSG link with nuts and nut butter? I love those as well.

Hi manja,

if it is a nut butter in a jar there might be suspicious added ingredients. Nuts, in general, just seem to be really hard to digest for some with a damaged intestinal lining, as well as being a top allergen for many as well.

YIKES!! Didn't know that! It's Bigelow I think...I thought I looked at the ingredients, but I guess we're finding out that THAT doesn't necessarily mean it isn't processed with something like that. Thanks...(had some yesterday though, so I guess I'll be finding out soon if that was it, lol).

No link I think, but I'm so addicted to the nuts and nut butters, that I'm thinking it might be contributing a little to the current nagging symptoms. If I can stay away from any of them for a week or so, I can then test one at a time to see if they're causing problems....I just so darned addicted, lol.

Fortunately I don't have to take a lot of meds--just Zantac right now. I'm sure that has corn something in it, but my doctor wants me to take it until July or August. I have to have another endoscope/biopsy and after that is done I can stop the Zantac. We're trying to control the acids to see if they are affecting cell changes in my bile ducts, otherwise it's probably pre-cancer changes. I take a Zyrtek ocassionally for allergies, so I'm sure that has some corn/msg too. I did stop all vitamins and I think I felt a little better right away after doing that. I think half of them said no corn, but the others didn't.

My biggest problem right now is not being able to make myself start. I do okay for a couple of days then I just give in to my cravings for stuff. The two hardest things for me to give up are going to be my morning Bumble Bars with nut butter, lol. Gosh, the thought of going without makes me shiver, lol. THAT has to mean something...don't they say we're addicted to the things that give us problems.

Good morning dlp!

Could you try to do a 90%/10% plan to get you started? Maybe figure something else out for breakfast for 6 out of the 7 days in the week and then on 7th day, or once a week, allow yourself to have a Bumble Bar for breakfast. This way you won't be eating it every day, it will be in rotation. Just a thought.

[ajay]

I react really badly to honey, but I read somewhere that you aren't supposed to give honey to infants because they haven't developed enough enzymes to break it down or something, so I'm thinking maybe it's temporary until we're further along on the healing spectrum?

Hi Calicat,

From what I've been reading in other corn forums, a lot of folks who react to corn can't eat honey. As far as I can figure, it has to do with the nature of honey. It's not super-refined, which in a way is good, but in this case, that means honey also has pollen, dirt,etc., in it. And apparently corn pollen travels pretty well. And you can't exactly tell the bees not to go near the corn plants.

You can't give honey to infants *or* to immunocompromised individuals because it often has bacterial spores in it... the bacterial infection leads to botulism. For most people it's not a problem, because the immune system takes care of those spores before anything happens. But for infants and people without a healthy immune system, the bacteria can grow and produce the botulism toxin. Interestingly, the spores can't grow in the honey itself because it's so thick that it's not a great environment for them.

So... it seems plausible to me that honey could contain all sorts of bits of dirt and pollen and things that just might be a little tough on a 99% angel's system.

Just remember not to directly sniff your bananas and avocados. Waft, people, WAFT!!

This completely cracked me up.

Probably because I've done some really stupid things in the lab that remind me:"waft, you dummy"

Thanks so much for the laugh!

[dlp252]

Hi manja,

if it is a nut butter in a jar there might be suspicious added ingredients. Nuts, in general, just seem to be really hard to digest for some with a damaged intestinal lining, as well as being a top allergen for many as well.

Good morning dlp!

Could you try to do a 90%/10% plan to get you started? Maybe figure something else out for breakfast for 6 out of the 7 days in the week and then on 7th day, or once a week, allow yourself to have a Bumble Bar for breakfast. This way you won't be eating it every day, it will be in rotation. Just a thought.

I think I've tried the limiting, but for me, it's almost exactly what I would imagine an alcoholic goes through...and seems like if I have a little it triggers the "need" for more, lol. I have a definite problem with anything sweet even the good stuff like fruit. I did really well for two years while doing my lower carb diet and was able to have the ocassional sweet treat, but I got a taste of the sweet gluten-free stuff and now I cant' control it. I think cold-turkey for a week or two might get me back on track...just not sure what to eat in the morning--I have a really hard time in the morning..I'm hungry but stuff just doesn't sound good anymore.

I know that meats like bacon and ham are out because they are cured...Whole Foods sells a pancetta which is an Italian bacon, but it isn't cured...I wonder how bad that would be. I can stomach that in the mornings. I can also do egg salad or hard boiled eggs, but fried or scrambled eggs turn my stomach these days (that HAS to be mental, lol). So, other than cooking a full fledged dinner type meal, I'm running out of things to eat for breakfast if I don't eat nut butters, or my bumble bars. I also don't want to do a lot of cooking in the mornings since I have to get up really early for work.

[Green12]

I think I've tried the limiting, but for me, it's almost exactly what I would imagine an alcoholic goes through...and seems like if I have a little it triggers the "need" for more, lol. I have a definite problem with anything sweet even the good stuff like fruit. I did really well for two years while doing my lower carb diet and was able to have the ocassional sweet treat, but I got a taste of the sweet gluten-free stuff and now I cant' control it. I think cold-turkey for a week or two might get me back on track...just not sure what to eat in the morning--I have a really hard time in the morning..I'm hungry but stuff just doesn't sound good anymore.

I know that meats like bacon and ham are out because they are cured...Whole Foods sells a pancetta which is an Italian bacon, but it isn't cured...I wonder how bad that would be. I can stomach that in the mornings. I can also do egg salad or hard boiled eggs, but fried or scrambled eggs turn my stomach these days (that HAS to be mental, lol). So, other than cooking a full fledged dinner type meal, I'm running out of things to eat for breakfast if I don't eat nut butters, or my bumble bars. I also don't want to do a lot of cooking in the mornings since I have to get up really early for work.

What about fruit? I eat a lot of fruit for breakfast now since I am staying away from eggs and it seems to be fine with my blood sugar.

Also, if you can tolerate eggs you can make these mini fritata things ahead of time and freeze them and then grab a couple of them and take to work and heat up in the microwave and eat, or eat before you go- whatever works with your schedule best. I don't have a specific recipe but you just take 8-10 eggs, beat them, throw in any of your favorite veggies like green onions, red peppers, etc., gluten free bacon, ham, sausage (totally optional on the meat) and fill mini muffin cups about half way full-2/3 full and then bake around 10 minutes or until they puff up.

[Rachel--24]

Donna,

I agree with Julie...can you have fruits? Maybe when you're craving sweets you can have some fruit?

I'm doing really well on my diet....not like I'm symptom free yet or anything...but making progress.

I've been trying different foods (thats all I can do right) and watching for reactions. So far I've reacted to red leaf lettuce, carrots, spinach, and raisins. I seem to react to all the organic greens and alot of veggies I buy at whole foods. The carrots came from the largest carrot grower in the US...the one that uses Auxigro (msg).

Its a feeling of my face muscles tightening and swelling (especially my jaw) and a pressure build up in my head. I had an immediate response like this to iceberg lettuce about 3 months back and also to carrots which was discussed way back in this thread when my focus was removing corn. Now I know that most carrots here in CA are sprayed with auxigro and most lettuce (particularly iceberg).

Like I said I react to most of the organic stuff I buy at whole foods and also other stores in my area. After doing some research I discovered that all the organic stuff I was buying was coming from Cal Organics....some of the carrots came from Cal Organics and some came from Grimmway Farms. Grimmway Farms uses Auxigro and then I found out that Cal Organics *is* Grimmway Farms. Its a very large grower here in Central Valley and operates under 2 names. All the little blue tags on the produce said Cal Organics but when I turned the tags over they say Gimmway Farms on the back. This was a major revelation for me as I stood in Whole Foods and for the first time realizing why their produce was making me sick. I was always thinking I was just intolerant to *everything*....but it didnt make much sense.

I bought the only bag of carrots I could find that wasnt from Grimmway and since then I've eaten 2 bags without any problems. Wow...that really makes this seem more real to me. I used to go for all the BIG produce but now I'm sticking to the little stuff and lots of fruit. I'm not buying everything organic anymore either since alot of it seems to be sprayed with the Auxigro growth enhancer. I look at these HUGE strawberries and I actually *cringe* cuz now I know how they got to be that size and it scares me. I wonder what one of those strawberries would do to me....its sooo wrong.

I'm noticing how unnaturally large and perfect alot of the produce is looking. I used to work in produce dept. for Safeway for about 6 years and the produce didnt look like this back then...it was regular size and had flaws.

Another interesting thing is that my last couple years of working in produce I started getting strange brown spots on my hands from trimming and washing the lettuce. I also had burning sensations on my back and aching shoulder and back muscles while doing the "trim". I thought maybe it was from standing in one place too long and I figured the brown spots came from chemicals on the lettuce. Anyways I stopped working in produce and the spots and back problems went away.

Now that I see when Auxigro was approved for use on lettuce in CA it coincides with when I started having those symptoms. I cant say that was what was causing it but it *does* make me a bit suspicious.

From reading on the MSG site it looks like most of them are also sensitive to either sulfites or tyramine or both. I havent been able to determine if I'm sensitive to sulfites or not because I buy stuff that is "unsulphered" just to be safe. I can only tolerate bananas occasionally...usually not. I react to avocados, all fermented products, cheese, yogurt, citrus is ok sometimes but not too much, raspberries...I can only eat a few, I reacted to raisins. This is all stuff that is high in Tyramine. My reaction is like a histamine reaction....some swelling and I can feel pressure and my veins swell so that they are visible and I can sometimes feel the blood pumping through. It causes a headache or migraine. I havent tried yogurt in a long time and I'm off dairy right now but last night I tested some and got this "histamine" reaction for a couple hours. I dont think I'm intolerant to dairy but more than likely its something chemical like the tyramine. I made sure the yogurt was organic and free of everything...the only ingredient was whole milk.

So basically thats where I'm at...still in the "testing" phase.

I'm going to the farmers market this weekend with my friend so I'm excited about that. Hopefully I'll find alot of stuff there and it'll be safe. I shouldnt have a hard time finding safe produce here in the Central Valley since I'm surrounded by farming. At least thats what I'm hoping. Anyone know anything about stuff sold at Farmers Market? My friend grows her own produce and she said I could have whatever I want from her garden too. Very cool.

Oh...I've been getting the histamine reaction from eggs for a long time now so I dont eat them even though I love them. From what I've been reading the reaction usually comes from the egg whites which is what I've suspected all along. Whenever I ate something with egg whites in the ingredients I reacted. Those little Jennie O coconut macaroon things give me a reaction and they only have egg whites, unsulphered coconut and honey. I want to test this by seeing if I can eat eggs without the white part. How do I do this? How do I get eggs with only the yolk or is it possible to seperate them??

I tested negative to eggs in all allergy/intolerance tests (IgE, IgG and IgA).

I'm thinking that once my system starts getting rid alot of this msg overload I'll be able to tolerate more stuff like the egg whites. Keeping my fingers crossed on that one.

The really great news is that I havent lost a single pound!! I was real worried about that but I'm still maintaining 110 lbs. I'd like to be bigger but I think this is probably normal weight for me.

I have my first week vacation coming up in one month and I'm hoping I'll have alot of my diet sorted out by then but I realize this stuff takes time so we'll see.

[jerseyangel]

Hi Rachel--Good to see you're still making progress. You just get closer and closer--I know you are going to "nail" it very soon . About the egg--I don't think I've ever heard of an egg with no white. Separating an egg is easy! Crack the egg as neatly as possible (hit it firmly once--you want a single crack, not a dent). Since you don't want the white, do this over the sink--let the white run out while keeping the yolk in one of the shell halves. Then keep transfering the yolk from one half to the other, while letting the white drip out. After a few times, you should have the yolk in one of the eggshell halves. Hope you could follow that !

Ooh--I found pictures!

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[Rachel--24]

About the egg--I don't think I've ever heard of an egg with no white.

I didnt think so...but ya never know...I thought I'd ask anyway.

Heck...if they can make strawberries as big as my fist I wouldnt be surprised if they came up with some "yolk only" eggs.

I probably wouldnt want to try them though.

Thanks so much for the link...I bookmarked it. I'm not the best "egg-cracker" so I'll probably be printing out the instructions. Now I have another question...what can I *do* with the egg yolks? I only know how to make scrambled eggs or sunnyside up eggs...can I still do this w/out the whites? Any suggestions?

Also if I do good with the yolks can I use them in baking or is it the whole egg that is needed in baking?

I'm gonna wait till next week to try it out...one thing at a time.

I was just downstairs emptying the dishwasher and I was dancing all over my kitchen so this is a very good sign. I'm always dancing and singing when I'm feeling good. I always have the music on loud....oh and I make sure the blinds are closed.

I miss going dancing at the clubs but maybe I'll be there again by the end of the year.

Last weekend I didnt do much cuz I was so achey and my head hurt and I was getting worse. I was eating salads for about 5 days and Grimmway Farms carrots for 4 days until I realized they were problems and eliminated them. I've been getting better and better since then but its only been about 5 days. Still, thats good progress considering 5 days ago I felt like I got hit by a truck and now I'm pain-free and dancing in my kitchen!

[Mango04]

Glad you're doing better Rachel! Had you been eating baby carrots or whole carrots? I read an article not too long ago that explained how all baby carrots (even organic ones) are soaked in a chemical bath for a very short period of time before they are packaged. I'm not sure how credible the source was, but I kind of believed it when I read it, mainly because I've purchased baby carrots that were really slimey in the past, and the article said the chemicals can cause that slime to grow. yuck. Anyway, hope you keep getting better!

[Nantzie]

I just opened this topic today. After seeing that it is now 33 pages, I figured there are a lot of interesting things going on, so I read the last page. I was stunned to read that Cal Organics (Grimway) has the b@lls to spray their produce with MSG. That's disgusting.

I'm in Sacramento, so we get our produce from the Central Valley too. Now that I'm thinking about the monstrous strawberries I reluctantly (where are all the normal ones?) bought yesterday for my kids to eat today, I think I'll pass. I'm going to start going to the little strawberry stand that's right next to their own strawberry patch. And that Farmer's Market idea is starting to look better and better.

I'm still stunned. Stunned. Horrified. Angry. Ugh. I mean we all pay how much for the produce at Whole Foods because we think it's better for our families and potentially worth the extra money in the long term and they go and spray it with MSG? I mean even people who aren't health conscious know that MSG isn't a good thing.

Anyway, on to egg yolks. They have egg seperators. They're plastic and have a little round place where the egg yolk sits and the white runs through the sides. They've been around for years. My mom used to have one from tupperware I think. Much easier than the egg shells, and you can leave it on there for an extra couple seconds to make sure as much of the white as possible has come off. I'm almost positive they would have one in the kitchen gadget section of your store.

On Food Network, Giada did a recipe for Espresso Zabaglione, which is WONDERFUL. It's basically a cooked custard made from egg yolks and sugar that you mix into your coffee instead of milk. I add some chocolate too and it's the best mocha I've ever had. Really creamy and rich tasting. Even better than heavy cream. And really the base of it is just the egg yolks and sugar, so if you don't want to chance such a big dose off egg yolks, the egg yolk and sugar concoction is pretty good by itself if you want to just eat a spoonful of it to see what would happen.

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[Rachel--24]

I'm still stunned. Stunned. Horrified. Angry. Ugh. I mean we all pay how much for the produce at Whole Foods because we think it's better for our families and potentially worth the extra money in the long term and they go and spray it with MSG? I mean even people who aren't health conscious know that MSG isn't a good thing.

Nancy,

Thats exactly how I felt a couple weeks ago (and about 15 pages back) when I first found out all about MSG. I had always thought it was some kind of spice they put on chinese food. I was so clueless about whats in our food!

Now I'm just plain shocked and angry.

I'm in Manteca and they have strawberry stands all over, also some cherries and I see oranges or melons all the time too. I'm gonna start buying from them. During the week I'm in the Bay Area and thats when I shop at Whole Foods....my bill is always huge and I hardly get anything for what I'm paying.

Last week I went to a market in Stockton which has tons of organic produce and I got MORE than what I get at Whole Foods for HALF the price. I was shocked when they told me my total...I was expecting to pay alot. Unfortunately the veggies I got were from Cal Organic and I got sick but thats how I made the connection to Grimmway and Auxigro. I bought some dates there for $3.99 and they were soooo good. When I was at Whole Foods this week they had the same exact dates so I got all happy and bought them...turned out they were $6.99!!!

Can you believe that! Its highway robbery!

Now that I cant eat half the stuff in the produce dept. there I'm glad that I wont be paying those outrageous prices anymore. I'll be saving myself alot of money. I'm betting the stuff at the farmers market is alot cheaper. I cant imagine the prices would be anywhere near what I've been paying at WF. What a ripoff!!

The only reason I was shopping there was because I was sick and wanted to eat healthy. I spent hundreds of dollars on stuff that I had to throw out cuz I thought I was "allergic" to it. They shouldnt be able to put something as toxic as MSG in ANY food but who would have imagined it would be on fresh organic produce in Whole Foods?? Its so crazy...I sometimes think I'm in the twilight zone.

I've read some stories about people who were terribly ill with no answers and then for whatever reason they relocated to another country and immediately got completely better! Then when they returned to the US all their symptoms returned.....because of MSG and other food additives!

I learned that some other countries are very strict about what addtives are allowed in the food and they only allow maybe 5 or 6 additives whereas here in the good 'ol U.S we have over 500 additives/chemicals allowed in our foods. No wonder we have so many health problems here and no wonder obesity is now the norm....even with kids. This doesnt seem to be the case in other areas of the world. We are poisoning ourselves here.

[tarnalberry]

Ever since the days of my high school environmental club and the lectures we did on methyl bromide (which is supposed to be phased out, but companies/states keep filing for exemptions), I've been very hesitant to buy non-organic strawberries, and since organic strawberries are expensive, I tend not to have them terribly often. But we're going to be planting them this year - if you've got the space, I encourage you to plant a garden and know what goes into (and onto) your food!