Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[dlp252]

Thanks Peace! Wow, sounds like you might be herxing...doesn't sound fun either.

On a different note...I bought some of that Bob's Red Mill Egg white powder I told you about. I blended that with a little water, a bit of frozen peaches (one of my "good" fruits, lol) and a little stevia. It wasn't bad at all! So, if you can't find Jay Robb's stuff, this might work.

[Rachel--24]

Dang....I really wanna be able to eat avocados!!! I LOVE them...but they mess me up REALLY bad.

I havent been treated for anything yet (foodwise)...except the wheat....which I dont think will clear and I'm NOT gonna eat it....EVER! The lady didnt even mention trying to eat it again.....she said to stay away from it....by body does NOT like it.

I dont think I have such a huge problem with dairy since I eat ice cream everyday. I'm totally curious about what those results will say. I cant eat most dairy but I dont think its an issue of lactose or casein.

I wonder if my treatment for fats and oils held?? I had bad fat digestion and I dont know if thats improved....because I cant eat the foods yet.

I wanna eat avocadoes and bananas again.

Heres my foods that need to get cleared

Animal

Chicken

Egg yolk (sulphur)

ham

liver

mutton (lamb)

turkey meat (tyrptophan)

I was ok for beef and pork

Dairy

Casein, cowmilk

butter

cheese, american

cheese, blue

cheese, cheddar

cheese, cottage

cheese, cream

cheese, goat

cheese, parmesan

cheese, swiss

milk, goat

whey, cowmilk

I was ok for albumin, cowmilk

Fish

clam

crab meat

crappie

flounder

haddock

cod fish

halibut

lobster

oyster

perch salmon

sardines

scallops shrimp trout

tuna fish

I was ok for black bass and catfish

Beverages

beer

coca-cola

coffee

coffee, decaf

scotch

tea decaf

vodka

whisky

red wine

white wine

I was ok for water.

J/K....water wasnt tested.

Condiments

mayonaise

miracle whip

mustard, dijon

mustard, yellow

terriyaki sauce, La Choy

I was ok with ketchup...but I dont think I really am ok with it...it has other bad stuff in it.

Fruits

Avocado (tocopherol)

banana

cantaloupe (mold)

grape (red and green) (mold)

grapefruit

kiwi

lemon (acid)

lime

mango

melon, honeydew (mold)

nectarine

olive, green

olive, ripe

orange (acetic acid)

orange mandarin (acetic acid)

papaya

peach

pear

pineapple

plum

prune

raisin (mold)

raspberry

strawberry (mold)

I was ok with

apple, apricot, backberry, blueberry, boysenberry, cherry, cranberry, crab apple, cucumber, date, fig and plantain. I cant eat them because of candida and I still feel worse eating fruits. I only eat apple.

Grains/beans

Barley (gluten)

bean-black

bean-garbanzo

bean-kidney

bean-limebean-navy

bean pinto

bean-red kidney

bean-soy

blackeye peas

buckwheat

caraway seed

corn

corn-pop

corn-white

corn-yellow

gluten

lentils, brown

millet

oat (gluten)

wheat bran

wheat-white flour

wheat, whole

I'm ok with poppyseed, rice, rye (gluten), sesame seed and flaxseed. I dont believe I am ok with rice, rye, or flaxseed though....I dont think I'm ok with the seeds either.

Everything will be retested befor treatment so we'll see what shows up next time.

Later I will post results for nuts, oils, spices, vegetables, extracts and food additives.

[Anonymousgurl]

Thanks Peace! Wow, sounds like you might be herxing...doesn't sound fun either.

On a different note...I bought some of that Bob's Red Mill Egg white powder I told you about. I blended that with a little water, a bit of frozen peaches (one of my "good" fruits, lol) and a little stevia. It wasn't bad at all! So, if you can't find Jay Robb's stuff, this might work.

Wow that's great to hear! Thanks for letting me know I'll definitely go pick some up, because I couldn't find the Jay Robb's stuff But hey, sounds like Bob's shtuff works just as well!

Rachel- Wow, it seems like you actually did pretty well on foods!

[Rachel--24]

Rachel- Wow, it seems like you actually did pretty well on foods!

Really?? Did you get worse results? I didnt think I did well at all.....those are all the foods I reacted to in my initial testing but I havent got treated yet. It looks like spices might be my next treatment. Not very exciting.

[diamondheart]

No wonder I was continually reacting because my diet was nearly 100% of the bad stuff...stuff I can't metabolize and therefor just making the leaky gut/candida thing worse.

Isn't it weird when we start thinking of foods that we react to as bad? I always thought that isn't normal. That's why I wanted somekind of treatment for all my food intolerances. I mean, it just isn't normal to be cutting out all these foods from a person's diet.

I survived another cross country ski trip today . It was fun - nothing too steep, but I don't think I'll be buying wax skis anytime soon. Too much work right now.

Claire

[CarlaB]

I survived another cross country ski trip today . It was fun - nothing too steep, but I don't think I'll be buying wax skis anytime soon. Too much work right now.

Claire

Claire, that sounds really fun! I can't imagine having that kind of energy ... my goal is to be able to rollerblade again in the springtime.

[Rachel--24]

Isn't it weird when we start thinking of foods that we react to as bad? I always thought that isn't normal. That's why I wanted somekind of treatment for all my food intolerances. I mean, it just isn't normal to be cutting out all these foods from a person's diet.

Thats how exactly how I felt too. Why should I have to live my life avoiding just about everything?? Especially since I wasnt born this way.

I wasnt necessarily looking to get treated so that I could eat these foods again. I was more looking to find out *why* I cant eat all of these foods and fix the problem...whatever it might be. So many things can lead to leaky gut so its hard to know where to start...and how to fix it.

Its obviously not normal to just have to keep eliminating foods.

[Rachel--24]

Claire, that sounds really fun! I can't imagine having that kind of energy ... my goal is to be able to rollerblade again in the springtime.

Carla...I have that kind of energy. I could totally cross country ski...but I'd probably react to the snow.

[dlp252]

Claire, I like how the BioSET lady puts it..."your body doesn't like it", lol. I guess I should say it that way...the food itself isn't bad, it's just that my body doesn't like it at this point in time.

Rachel here are the foods I reacted to...kind of similar to yours, with just a few differences:

Animal:

Chicken meant

Ham

Liver

Lam

(okay was bacon, beef, eggs (both whites and yolk), pork and turkey)

Dairy:

ALL, except for yogurt which wasn't tested...I reacted to the albumin, casein whey, even goat milk.

Fish:

Halibut

Lobster

Oyster

perch

salmon

sardines

scallops

shrimp

(tuna was okay and some other fish too, but I wouldn't eat it anyway cuz of the mercury)

Beverages:

ALL, except beer, lol. Good thing I hate beer.

Condiments:

Only reacted to teriyaki sauce, which is odd cuz all the other stuff has vinegar which I DID react to.

Fruits:

Avocado (tocopherol)

Canteloupe (mold)

Grape (red & green) (mold)

grapefruit (acid)

Lemon (acid)

Lime (acid)

Mango

Melon, Honeydew (mold)

orange (acid)

orange, mandarin (acid)

pear

pineapple

raisin (mold)

raspberry

strawberry (mold)

(guess what I ate a TON of while on vacation...honeydew, grapes, canteloupe, and PINEAPPLE...bet that did two things...overloaded my system with stuff I shouldn't be eating and giving the candida plenty of food.

Grains:

Kidney beans

Soy

Blackeye Peas

Buckwheat

Caraway seed

corn

corn-pop

corn-white

corn-yellow

gluten

lentils, brown

millet

oat (gluten)

poppyseed

rice

rye (gluten)

wheat-white flour

wheat, whole

(oddy Barley and wheat bran was okay along with some beans)

Nuts:

ALL except walnuts and sunflower seeds

Oils:

ALL!!!!

Spices:

Chili powder

cinnamon

clove

coriander

cumin seed

curry

dill

fennel seed

ginger

lemon grass

marjoram

mustard seed

nutmed

organo

paprika

pepper, black

poppyseed

quince seed (what the heck is that, lol)

red pepper

rosemary

saffron

sage

savory

sesame seed

(okay were spearmint, tarragon, thyme, turmeric, valerian, vanilla, watermelon--is watermelon a spice, lol)

Vegetables:

Artichoke

Beet, Garden Red

Carrot

Onion

Pepper, green & red

potato, sweet

potato, white

potato, red

pumpkin

spinach

(guess what else I ate of ton of while on vacation...popatoes, lol, lots of them)

Extracts/sugars:

Corn syrup

honey

malt

sugar, beet

sugar, corn

sugar, cane

sugar, date

sugar, maple

sugar, turbinado

dextrose

fructose

lactose

maltose

maple syrup

molasses

rice syrup

vinegar, apple cider

vinegar, malt

vinegar, red wine

vinegar, rice

tapioca

Food additives:

ALL, I reacted to every single one that they tested for.

Detox pathways:

Heavy metals

Microbial Metabolites

B vitamin pathway (she says I need these in order to detox properly, so I believe we'll be working on these soon)

[happygirl]

x

[CarlaB]

Carla...I have that kind of energy. I could totally cross country ski...but I'd probably react to the snow.

Nah, it's just dirty water.

[CarlaB]

(like unpacking boxes from OCTOBER!)....

Don't feel bad, we're still organizing and we moved in a year ago!!! Of course, I didn't move in till June and have been sick since then ...

Thanks for the sweet compliment about deserving something good!!

Morgan joined my sorority at the same campus I went to today. How fun. Rush was brutal for her .... lots of phone calls, tears ... but today is total bliss for her!!

I think I'm herxing from the artemisia I started. I feel awful ... at least I know it's working.

[happygirl]

x

[Rachel--24]

Donna...yeah we both did pretty bad on foods! Damn candida.

You fared alot better on veggies though. I did very bad on veggies....no surprise though...I've been saying it since the beginning of this thread. My body HATES the "good" stuff.

Heres the rest of mine...

Nuts

coconut

macadamia

peanut

pecan

pinenut

pistachio

sunflower seed (used to live off these)

black walnut

english walnut

I was ok with almond, brazil and cashew. I can tell you for sure that I'm NOT ok with those...but I always suspected it was because they get rancid from mold.

Oils

almond oil

black currant seed oil

canola oil (horrible reactions)

corn oil

crisco

evening primrose oil (heinous)

flaxseed oil (another heinosity)

olive oil

peanut oil

sesame oil

I reacted to all of the oils.....the actual panel has alot more oils in it and there were a couple I was ok with....like safflower oil. Good thing cuz its the only one I use that doesnt bother me.

Spice

chili powder

clove

cumin seed

curry dill

fennel seed

ginger

lemon grass

marjoram

mustard seed

nutmeg

oregano

paprika

black pepper

poppyseed

quince seed

red pepper

rosemary

saffron

sage

savory

sesame seed

spearmint

tarragon

thyme

tumeric

valerian (?)

vanilla

I was ok with

Allspice, anise seed, basil, bay leaf, caraway seed, celery seed, cilantro, cinnamon and corinander.

Isnt coriander the same as cilantro???

Veggies

artichoke

green string bean

beet, garden red

blackeye peas

broccoli

brussel sprouts

cabbage carob

carrot

celery

chives

collard greens

dandelion

eggplant (sulphur)

endive

fennel

garlic (sulphur)

heart of palm

horseradish

jicama

kale

kelp

leek

onion (sulphur)

parsely

parsnip

pea, blackeyed

pea, green

pepper, green and red

pickles, dill

pickles, sweet

pimiento

potato sweet

potato white

potato red

pumpkin EEEK

radish

rhubarb

sea weed

spinach

squash winter

squash, yellow

swiss chard

tomato

turnip

water chestnut

zucchini

watercress

All I can really say about veggies is that they terrify me.

They are all heinous.

I was ok with...

alfalfa (not)

arrowroot

asparagus

bamboo shoots

bean sprouts (not)

cauliflower (definately not)

lettuce

ice berg lettuce

romaine lettuce

mushrooms

mustard greens

okra

green olive

and get this.....YAM

the only thing I dare eat out of these "safe" foods is lettuce

extracts

cornstarch

corn syrup

gelatin

glue, fish (WTH?)

guar bean

gum, acacia

gum, karaya

gum, tragacanth

honey

pectin

peppermint

malt

soy sauce, La Choy

sugar, beet

sugar, corn

sugar, cane

sugar, date

sugar, maple

sugar, turbinado

dextrose

fructose lactose

maltose

maple syrup

molasses

rice syrup

apple cider vinegar

malt vinegar

yeast, brewers

yeast, flieshmanns rapid rise

yeast mix

yeast-red star

I was ok with Cocoa!!

red wine vinegar

rice vinegar

tapioca and tofu

Food additives

Aspartame (one of the most heinous creations ever)

dye-blue

dye-red

dye-yellow

monosodium glutamate (the other most heinous creation)

saccharin

sodium flouride

sodium metabisulfite

sorbic acid

sweet and low

equal

I was ok with baking powder and baking soda. Good thing there is something I can brush my teeth with!

Detox pathways

sulphur pathway

glutathione pathway

methionine pathway

heavy metals

intermediary metabolites

microbial metabolites

toxic trace elements

b vitamin excretion

tocopherol/tocotrienols

I was only ok with cysteine pathway....guess I'm just toxic everywhere.

and thats it...I gotta get treated for all that stuff. I'm pretty sure the panels are actually bigger than whats on the initial testing so theres probably more stuff that will show up later.

[Rachel--24]

I feel like a bad contributor lately. I have been reading, but haven't had a lot of time to write. I'm trying to play catch up with so many other things, now that I'm halfway functional (like unpacking boxes from OCTOBER!)....

so please forgive me for not being a good active member! xoxo

No worries.

Posting is not a requirement. I feel like you're busy with normal everyday activities....and thats a good thing.

We love to hear from you when you have time.

Sorry about whatever got you sick.....hope it passes soon.

[Anonymousgurl]

Really?? Did you get worse results? I didnt think I did well at all.....those are all the foods I reacted to in my initial testing but I havent got treated yet. It looks like spices might be my next treatment. Not very exciting.

Yea out of all the food groups there were only 9 items that I didn't react to. But that's not including spices or food additives. My goodness, those lists are long! I didn't want my bioSET lady to even bother with most of the additives because nearly everything I eat is all natural but she attempted to clear those anyway.

I think I'm herxing from the artemisia I started. I feel awful ... at least I know it's working.

Aww I'm sorry Carla I think I'm herxing for the first time too. I've been on Artemisian for over a month and never herxed, and I was kind of nervous because I wasn't sure if it was working...but then when I added the catnip that's supposed to finish off the babesia. I upped the dosage just four days ago to two pills and I think i'm herxing for the first time ever today. I'm not sure though...but I feel like my food is going to come right back up everytime I eat, and the feeling lasts for about 2 or 3 hours...which is tough because I havent to eat every two hours. LoL. Anyone have any herxing advice? I sure hope yours doesn't last long Carla. Feel better soon!!!

[CarlaB]

Laura, it's been difficult to have the house disorganized. I've always been somewhat of a perfectionist, Adam has always teased me about living in a model home .... so it's been hard. Our house is 90 years old and needs the kitchen and master bath renovated really badly, too. We did the kids bathroom right away as it was barely functional, and we wanted to start on the kitchen last summer, but I wasn't up to it. It's got to be done soon ... it's hideous and doesn't ever seem clean. My dad was even complaining about my refrigerator over Christmas . It's one we replaced out of one of our rentals ... not good enough for a renter, but good enough for me!!! LOL

Normally, my entire house is completely organized within two weeks of moving! We've been making very slow progress.

Just get your family room pretty so you have somewhere to sit and not see a mess.

Okay, I'm totally off topic and feel like I'm on a complete tangent. The new herb I'm taking is for babesia, which I assumed I have .... I must ... I'm having hot flashes, fatigue, muscle aches, and the worst, most incoherent brain fog yet! I'm just so excited it's working!

Adam told me that he will now be able to watch a movie and miss the ending ... he's so used to not hearing the end of any of my stories as I never remember what I'm talking about. It's really gotten bad.

Okay, he just sent me to bed. It's like I'm a ten year old. Good night.

[Rachel--24]

Anyone have any herxing advice?

Yeah...drink LOTS of water!!! And REST!! I'm serious about the water....it will help the body excrete those toxins...VERY important!

If the herxing persists you may need to decrease your dose a bit.

I got a major herx from Grapefruit seed extract for candida a long time ago. It was HEINOUS!

I started back on it today....I asked the BioSET lady and she said to get on it.....it's really good for candida. I told her last time I started with 10 drops and she couldnt believe I did that....she said I could probably only tolerate 3 or 4 drops at the most....but I have to start with one drop.

Last time I was just anxious to kill the yeast so I think I took 10 drops twice in one day....so like 40 drops in two days!

Then I herxed big time and havent touched the GSE since....until today.

Does anyone know if supplements go bad?? The GSE was from like a year and a half ago. It has an exp. date on it which isnt until 2008....so is it ok....even though I opened it a long time ago?? The drops are sooo thick....is GSE suppossed to be thick?? It was like that when I first bought it.

She said she'll have me switch to maybe caprylic acid after a month on GSE. You gotta rotate natural antifunglas so that the yeast or other stuff dont get resistant to it.

[AndreaB]

Carla...I have that kind of energy. I could totally cross country ski...but I'd probably react to the snow.

(guess what I ate a TON of while on vacation...honeydew, grapes, canteloupe, and PINEAPPLE...bet that did two things...overloaded my system with stuff I shouldn't be eating and giving the candida plenty of food.

(guess what else I ate of ton of while on vacation...popatoes, lol, lots of them)

Could that be part of the reason you got sick when you got back since your body was occupied with fighting off all the intruders?

(I promise Andrea!...but don't worry, its nothing groundbreaking, just making progress)

I'll be waiting and no forgiveness necessary for having a life outside the forum. I'd cut back my time drastically before Patti's surgery.

Isnt coriander the same as cilantro???

Same plant different part. Coriander is the seed, cilantro is the parsley part. The seed grows on top and is used as a replacement for cinnamon. That's what we use....coriander and sometimes cardamom (1/2 each) for cinnamon.

[Anonymousgurl]

Yeah...drink LOTS of water!!! And REST!! I'm serious about the water....it will help the body excrete those toxins...VERY important!

If the herxing persists you may need to decrease your dose a bit.

I got a major herx from Grapefruit seed extract for candida a long time ago. It was HEINOUS!

I started back on it today....I asked the BioSET lady and she said to get on it.....it's really good for candida. I told her last time I started with 10 drops and she couldnt believe I did that....she said I could probably only tolerate 3 or 4 drops at the most....but I have to start with one drop.

Last time I was just anxious to kill the yeast so I think I took 10 drops twice in one day....so like 40 drops in two days!

Then I herxed big time and havent touched the GSE since....until today.

Does anyone know if supplements go bad?? The GSE was from like a year and a half ago. It has an exp. date on it which isnt until 2008....so is it ok....even though I opened it a long time ago?? The drops are sooo thick....is GSE suppossed to be thick?? It was like that when I first bought it.

She said she'll have me switch to maybe caprylic acid after a month on GSE. You gotta rotate natural antifunglas so that the yeast or other stuff dont get resistant to it.

Thanks for the advice. I've had 7 water bottles (17 oz water bottles) so far today and I think I'll be able to fit in one more.

Oh my gosh, how ironic! I did the same thing with the grapfruit seed extract!!! I'm on it right now, and I'm only at 5 drops a day (in a couple of days I'm supposed to go up to 7, but I'm nervous)...but a while back I was on it, and I got a little too anxious too and I took 12 drops in one sitting. The next morning I had horrible D. I couldn't stop going! LoL. It was kind of scary. So now I have the same problem...I'm really nervous to go up to 7!! But then again, I want this horrible Candida monster to GO AWAY. Maybe then I'll stop bloating like a balloon.

Have you guys done the Candida spit test? Wow...that was QUITE an experience. INTERESTING.

[Rachel--24]

Have you guys done the Candida spit test? Wow...that was QUITE an experience. INTERESTING.

Yeah...I did it a few years back. Its a bogus test....you can have anyone do the test and most of them will be positive. People have even tested their dogs and they are positive too!

Well yeah....it could be yeast but then we ALL have yeast so it doesnt prove much.

Yeast is a normal and necessary part of the flora so I dont think the spit test is accurate....ask someone who's perfectly healthy to try the test. First thing in the morning....before brushing teeth or drinking anything...most likely they will flunk the test.

But yeah....I falied miserably. It was pretty gross.

[LL04]

I really want to thank you ALL for all of your suggestions and info...Rachel, I think you could probably become a doctor with all the things you've learned from all your obviously painstaking research!!

Okay, so these are the things I know for sure that I have had tests for and all have come back normal or not existing as a possible cause to my problems: all levels of iron, potassium, B12etc... in my blood, Lupus and other markers that might indicate another autoimmune disease, H. Pylori, Giardia; in Canada we call it Beaver Fever and the doctor tested me for it because up until 2 years ago we did major backwoods camping every August (we go into the bush a full 25kms away from the nearest paved road to a lake we love) and he thought I might have gotten it there and IgA. I think also IgG but I'm not positive.

When the GI came in to my hospital room with my dx he spent all of 10 minutes saying what he had found and his treatment advice to me was two words "Avoid gluten" and with that, he left the room! I'm not kidding, nothing else, just that. Right off the bat we learned how serious cc issues were after I continued to have the passing out episodes even after I thought I was eating gluten-free (I was still using everyone elses butter and toaster, using the same cutting board etc...) When we got that under control we (my husband and I) started doing some serious research into celiac disease and quickly realized that I was one of those people with celiac disease that would react even to the tiniest amounts of gluten in the worst possible way. I am sooooo beyond careful about what I eat and I NEVER dine out. Mostly I make everything from scratch at home but because I am so busy with the kids I eat prebaked and processed foods but I also never eat ANYTHING that is processed or baked that doesn't come from a dedicted gluten free manufacturer or bakery. Sooooo I am POSTIVE that I am no longer ingesting gluten, period. Also, after doing this research, I almost immediately cut out my dairy and just recently decided that it really hasn't made any difference at all. After being dairy free for almost as long as I've been gluten-free (almost 2 years), I have seen no improvement with any of my symptoms.

Now when I look back I KNOW that I have had celiac disease all my life. I had all the really classic symptoms. I couldn't keep anything down as a baby, I was very small and frail, distended tummy and all, and I was always going to the doctor for some sort of illness. My doctor just kept telling my mom that I was small for my age but honestly, in Grade 10 at 16 years of age I was wearing size 8 childrens clothes!!! I didn't get my period until I was 17 which is when I finally grew as well. At this point in my life all the symptoms seemed to disappear, which I have read, happens often for kids with celiac disease.

Anyways, Lyme disease I suspect, because of all our backwoods adventures. We actually found a dead tick on our dog in the early 90's after one of our trips. He didn't get sick though.

Question: Is this bioset that some of you go to, is that a lab or what is it exactly?We have naturopathic doctors here that kind of do some of that testing...do you think that is the same thing? I was planning on making an appointment with one of them but after reading what you all wrote, especially Rachel, I'm going to call tomorrow and get an appointment ASAP. I think you are right Rachel and my husband also said this as well, that doctors are only interested in diseases. If they find one they treat it and if they don't, well they just let you stay sick until you finally get one. I, for one, am not going to wait around to find out what I get next

Okay, so I'm going to keep you all posted on what happens and I'm going to still be asking for A TON of help. I'll be visiting here everyday to see how everyone is making out. I just want you all to know how important and reasurring it is for me to know that there are others in this world who are going through the same things I'm going through (although it's so crummy that ANYONE would have to go through what we're going through) and understand me. I'm not NUTS even though I'm sure some of the doctors who I've seen would certainly beg to differ I guess I always have to remind myself that it could be worse....I won't let it get there

[AndreaB]

Lauralee,

I think at naturopathic type doctor would be good. If you could find an MD with naturopathic leanings that would be great.

I'll let one of the bioset girls talk about that. I believe naturopathic type doctors do that according to my searches for some in my area. Sounds like Rachel's gal is the best, maybe she knows someone in Canada that can help you.

[miamia]

Donna-

so happy you finally had your bioSet appt. Do you ahve to bring stuff you want tested or do they just have samples of everything there? I am a little confused.

Laura-

so sorry you had a reaction anytime things are ok for a while its hard to imagine how sick you can get. Its not a nice wake up call. But you'll bounce back you ahve been doing so well lately.

Laura lee-

it sounds like you got a lot of good info. One thing I would suggest to you is to stop the reflux meds. I was on these for a long time when they coulden;t figure out what was wrong with me. I think they did a lot of damage and made it even harder for me to heal now. They suppress not only excess acids in your gut but ones that are critical for proper foood digestion. Some of them are helpful short term but most docs just leave their patients on them for way too long. They contribute to candida and leaky gut becaus eyour body does not process food properly after a while.

Rachel-

Yikes lots of food stuff. I have been meaning to tell you this but have been really out of it. One of the things I looked into was the use of castor oill packs- i ran it by this pharmacist I really trust and he started telling me how he usually recoomends tham for women with fibroids- they shrink the fibroids becaus ethey increase circulation. I did some research becasue I know you at one point had posted if anyone knew anything about natural cures for fibroids but I got so much info on it that it overwhlmed me (I've been in major brain funk) But you should google castor oil packs and fibroids you will find out some really useful info.

CArla-

sorry your feeeling so bad but hopefully for good reasons!!YOu sound like you are staying tough.

[dlp252]

Laura, don't worry, just post when you can!

You too mia! Mia, she has samples of everything there except for supplements...I brought all my meds and supplements. She then places one supplement at a time in a tiny glass bowl to test. My body is okay with all of the ones I take currently, just on some of them she said I should take less.

LauraLee, here is a link that explains the BioSET treatments Rachel and I have, which is very similar to what Peace and Claire and I think Julie are having as well:

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Peace - another thing you might try is soaking in a very warm bath with epsom salts. Every time I get a deep tissue massage, the therapist says to go home and soak in a tub with epsom salts as it helps draw out the toxins... In my mind herxing is just a bunch of toxins running amuk.

Okay, I'm off to go research tonsilitis and sore throats, cuz I've still got mine big time.