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[Rachel--24]

WTH is up with these big spaces in my posts??? I'm not doing anything different??

[Fiddle-Faddle]

[Question: Milk has msg,

Wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE!!! Milk has MSG??????? I must have missed something....

[CarlaB]

Rachel, are you reading a book by Harvey Diamond? That sounds like Fit For Life stuff! I followed his advice for YEARS. I juiced twice daily. I was healthy, and very skinny ... probably because of all the vegetarian eating and lots of wheat! I didn't have an ounce of cellulite following that diet and I had already had all our kids ... even skinny people have cellulite when they're storing all kinds of bad stuff in their bodies. Harvey Diamond has some kind of chronic disease ... maybe agent orange? His newer stuff is not vegetarian, so I think it's better balanced for most of us. I believe he controls his disease entirely with natural stuff.

There are lots of "natural hygenists" out there. Back to Eden is another good book with the same priniciples.

I also like that one written by that guy who's a naturopath .... Doctor Heal Thyself? Is that the title. I really like his stuff, and I think it's better balanced as far as protein goes.

I generally avoid dairy ... but I like my lattes ... you are right about the soda. The only time I get it is with my popcorn at the movies, and even then I have them fill the cup all the way with ice so it gets watered down because it's too sweet. This is all the stuff I used to be really into ... now wonder I was able to fight the Lyme so well all these years! I'll have to dig out my juicer ... at times I'd juice so much and always use a carrot base that I'd have to lay off it for a few days because my palms would turn orange!

One of my favorite things that H. Diamond wrote was that cows have four (I think it's four) stomachs to digest milk ... some humans who drink milk look like they do!

[Fiddle-Faddle]

WTH is up with these big spaces in my posts??? I'm not doing anything different??

Could it be your computer? I don't see any big spaces in your posts....

[CarlaB]

Could it be your computer? I don't see any big spaces in your posts....

I've noticed that when I hit enter it spaces farther down than it used to, like it's double spacing. Maybe you're hitting enter the same number of times, but it's double spacing. Try just posting without hitting enter after the last word of your post and see if that helps. I found the same thing happening to me ... never realized I hit enter after the last word till I started seeing those large spaces.

[Rachel--24]

Anyways, it doesn't make what our friends do any better does it?

Nope it sure doesnt!

I guess what I was trying to say is that when you get both aspartame and msg in your system at the same time...your reaction will be more severe if you're sensitive.

I think it might *seem* like alot of people can eat this stuff and not have any problems...but in actuality I think that these are the types of things that pile up and over time we end up sick. Its not *just* from the MSG alone...but the neurotoxins in our food are just another thing that puts added stress on our bodies and our liver. When we start getting problems with high toxicity we dont detox as well and so these poisons are circulating around our bloodstream instead of getting eliminated.

I think the more toxic we are the more of a noticeable affect these chemicals are gonna have on our health. I believe they are having a negative effect on the body WAY before the body breaks down. Some people might not ever reach the point of becoming overly toxic and getting chronically ill but it doesnt mean they are OK with these chemicals. They still can cross into the brain and cause damage over time.

People dont know this stuff though....I wouldnt know any of it had I not got sick. I cant really blame people for being in the dark about whats in our food. I would still be eating unhealthy and most likely... if I read *any* of this stuff I would roll my eyes and dismiss it.....cuz I was "invinceable" and I could eat junk all day long and be perfectly fine.

I never looked at ingredients before and to be honest I didnt know that pasta was made from wheat.....I didnt know what the heck gluten was.....and I probably wouldnt have cared much if someone tried to "inform" me. So yeah...my own ignorance got me here....and I'm not so "invinceable" afterall.

Guess I had to learn the hard way.

[Rachel--24]

I've noticed that when I hit enter it spaces farther down than it used to, like it's double spacing. Maybe you're hitting enter the same number of times, but it's double spacing. Try just posting without hitting enter after the last word of your post and see if that helps. I found the same thing happening to me ... never realized I hit enter after the last word till I started seeing those large spaces.

I dont think I hit enter....but I will pay more attention now.

[Rachel--24]

Hi Mango!!

What are your thoughts about dairy???

[Rachel--24]

Well, about 15 minutes later they called me and she had signed it! WHAT??! Was she in the office the whole time? I've been waiting for them to fax it ever since then .... so for over an hour. I was going to write this in once I found out what the results were ... but still waiting ...

Carla...that Dr. sucks!! Want me to punch her for you???

Is she the same one who wanted to do "voodoo" on you.....saying your "baggage" is causing your illness??

If it is....I'll punch her twice.....just for being moronic.

[dlp252]

Ummm....I always thought I was doing my body good.....I drank milk practically everyday of my life...I *had* to have it with meals. It was a powerful craving I had for milk and its still *in* me to want a glass of milk that badly. The rest of the time I drank soda.

Me too...I crave milk even though I haven't had any for years.

So yeah....water is the best thing for your body as long as its pure through distilling or reverse-osmosis filtering. Tap water is BAD. It says even if you filter it with Brita systems (or something similar)....the water is still not good. Bottled water sometimes contains impurities or is simply dead from processing and storage.

Oh good, the water I drink at work is reverse-osmosis...that's good. Bad is that I use a Pur water pitcher at home...I've been wondering the last few days (since BioSET) whether the discussion we had a few 100 pages ago about coconut filters applied to it, and now after what you just said, maybe I'll just buy distilled water, lol.

Sheeeesh....no wonder why those of us with candida do so badly with fruits.

I serously cant deal with mycotoxins and molds....I think I've gone hyper-reactive to the stuff cuz of all the candida inside me.

The BioSET test made sense of most of my food intolerances for me. All that stuff showing up in the tests about mycotoxins, yeasts and molds....its for real. There was a tiny bit of mold in my cottage cheese section at work. I saw it growing underneath the grates where I stock....its been over a week and each day it spreads more and more. Each day I started having stronger reactions while working in that area.

I was kind of in denial about it....but then yesterday I got a pretty bad reaction and didnt feel very good for a couple hours....there was nothing around me....except that mold. Today I had the janitor clean the whole area....and I didnt get any reaction.

Stupid mold.

And yet, I still can't leave the stupid fruit alone. STUPID MOLD! I know (or am nearly 95% positive) that I have mold inside the walls in my bathroom. I ALWAYS test positive for mold...I did on my scratch skin test, and I did on the first food allergy testing I had done, and BioSET went crazy with the molds for me. I've been in denial.

[Rachel--24]

Wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE!!! Milk has MSG??????? I must have missed something....

Alison...there are two types of MSG. One type is the one that is called monosodium glutamate....the one that is added into foods to manipulate our brains and our alter our taste buds.

It made from free glutamates which comes from food like corn and beets. Usually corn because it is very high in natural glutamate and very plentiful and cheap. In its "natural" state the glutamates are "bound"....they are a natural chemical in alot of foods and not harmful to our bodies.

When natural glutamates are processed they are no longer "bound" and they become "free" glutamates. They highly process glutamate from corn in order to make MSG. So its something that started out natural but became a man-made chemical.

Milk is high in natural glutamates.....but once its processed the glutamates are freed.....so it *does* contain some amount of MSG due to pasteurization and processing. Its not necessarly good for us.....but people wont really react to it unless they've already developed a very low tolerance to MSG.

They like to say that MSG is harmless and comes from natural sources....but it just aint so.

Its like saying cocaine is harmless because it too came from a natural source....but noooo....once its been processed and turned into a *drug* its certainly not something that we would choose to put into our bodies.

[CarlaB]

Carla...that Dr. sucks!! Want me to punch her for you???

Is she the same one who wanted to do "voodoo" on you.....saying your "baggage" is causing your illness??

If it is....I'll punch her twice.....just for being moronic.

If anyone's going to get punched, I'll do it!!

Except my kid ... you can come punch him for me ... I don't want to go to jail. He's been forging my husband's initials on his "refrigerator reading" every day, every week, all school year! We just busted him yesterday ... the little brat. He's already had one detention for forgery, this time I believe he'll get an in-school suspension ... but that's for a second offense, what happens after months of offenses??? Anyway, he needs a punch more than the doctor.

[Rachel--24]

They finally faxed it, then I had to wait for Adam to get home and get done with dinner to post ... all my co-infections tests were negative. It seems very strange to me since I have the bartonella rash and babesia symptoms ... especially since I herxed when I took an herb known to affect babesia.

Since it's an Igg and Igm test, I wonder if it has false negatives? Especially since my exposure was so long ago.

Carla.....the tests for co-infections are just as tricky as the tests for Lyme. The infections can be there but not show up. They will sometimes show up later on. That one guy I corresponded with had all 3 co-infections but only one showed up in the first test.....several months later a second one showed up and months after that....the third one showed up. Infections can hide behind each other so they may show up later on in treatment.

Co-infections are a clinical diagnosis also.

[CarlaB]

Carla.....the tests for co-infections are just as tricky as the tests for Lyme. The infections can be there but not show up. They will sometimes show up later on. That one guy I corresponded with had all 3 co-infections but only one showed up in the first test.....several months later a second one showed up and months after that....the third one showed up. Infections can hide behind each other so they may show up later on in treatment.

Co-infections are a clinical diagnosis also.

It's so tricky. When I started taking artemisia, I herxed within two days, very badly, in fact the worst yet. Artemisia is specifically for babesia, which I have the symptoms of ... so this makes a lot of sense. I really seemed to have a babesia herx since I had four night sweats in one night from it! I'm still trying to recover from the herx. I don't know about you, but I get a lot of muscle aches ... flu-ish aches.

[Mango04]

Hi Mango!!

What are your thoughts about dairy???

Well let me tell you what I think...

just kidding.

Speaking of pasteurization though...I read a fun fact about that not too long ago. Apparantly Pasteur himself determined just before he died that pasteurization was an unnecessary process. As I'm typing this I'm thinking how dorky it is that I find random facts about pasteurization interesting. Hmmm...I wish I could cite the source of that fact. I think I heard it on Paul Chek's "You Are What You Eat" cds, which contained some of the most fascinating nutritional info. I ever heard. I guess I'm just nerdily (can that be a word?) fascinated by that kind of stuff.

But yeah Rachel, I was excited about your anti-dairy post

Oh and juicing is the best! My juicer is seriously one of my favorite things I love it I sometimes have the exact same carrot problem as you, Carla

[CarlaB]

Oh and juicing is the best! My juicer is seriously one of my favorite things I love it I sometimes have the exact same carrot problem as you, Carla

That's been a few years ... I was just talking to Adam about Fit for Life and how we should go back onto it. I know it was very helpful in the past. I'm sure it was a significant part of why my Lyme was in remission for so long. After I mentioned Harvey Diamond, I looked him up ... he has a my space, just use his full name and the usual type my space address. He has kept his Agent Orange symptoms at bay using his diet and supplements. I remember doing lots of detoxing on the diet. I'm going to give it a try to see if it boosts my energy.

He has a certain way of eating fruit ... it makes it so it doesn't ferment in your system and feed the yeast ... so he says you can eat it with candida. I still ate it in moderation on the anti-candida diet, and it didn't bother me.

[Anonymousgurl]

Hi Everyone. I wish I felt good enough to read everything I missed and to catch up. What's new with everyone, any new discoveries or happenings?

I hope everyone is feeling and doing well. How are all of you? Have you stopped herxing Carla?

I've been herxing for about 4 days now and feel horrible. Does anyone ever vomit when they are herxing? Icky questions, I know. But sometimes I feel like it's going to happen. I also have this weird thing where I get these headaches and my eye twitches REALLY bad. It's more like an eye spasm. LoL. It's the weirdest thing ever. Anyone ever get that?

Well, anyways....i hope all is well.

<3

[CarlaB]

Peace, I'm feeling a lot better, but still bad. I didn't do anything but rest today, but I didn't hurt as much. I get nauseous sometimes when I herx ... especially after I eat. This time I also had a headache, which I never get.

I get the eye twitching, but haven't lately.

Hope you feel better soon!

[happygirl]

x

[Rachel--24]

But yeah Rachel, I was excited about your anti-dairy post

Yeah...and all that coming from queen of ice cream.

Hear me now!.....when I can eat alot of "wholesome" foods and "drink" my veggies and eat a yam or sweet potato without getting all crazy...I gonna give up my ice cream! Well...except for an "occasional" treat.

I'm gonna join your campaign Meredith.....although I probably wont hang up anti-dairy flyers on the restroom doors.

All I know is I've read some pretty bad stuff regarding dairy. I know that I LOVE milk, cheese and yogurt and pretty much *everything* dairy......its like some kind of drug....more addicting than wheat.

I ate dairy everyday and I'm pretty much the poster girl for a body overtaken by bad bugs and yeast. It cant be a good thing that I was feeding my body.

Also...I never took antibiotics....ever. I have no recollection of ever being on them except for when I was already getting sick. I took them alot the first year of being sick but never before that....nor did I take *any* type of prescription or even over the counter drugs. People who are "invinceable dont need medications.

If my gut bacteria got all out of whack....it was probably from all the dairy and meat products being loaded with antibiotics and bad microbes.

All those Big Macs and huge glasses of milk....

[Rachel--24]

Wait a minute, WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Alison....I just read that again and burst out laughing!!

Funny...

[happygirl]

big macs and large glasses of milk... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Fiddle-Faddle]

Alison....I just read that again and burst out laughing!!

Funny...

I just (pant) can't (wheeze) keep up!!!! (collapses in heap on keyboard)

[Rachel--24]

One of my favorite things that H. Diamond wrote was that cows have four (I think it's four) stomachs to digest milk ... some humans who drink milk look like they do!

Yeah.....we need more stomachs so when one goes bad we can rely on the others. Then when 3 go down and we only have one left we can quit eating dairy (and the other bad stuff)....we can "save" our last stomach and live healthy from that point on.

The book I'm reading is about balancing your pH to regain your health. Getting out of an acid state and making the body more alkaline and healthy. Its called "The pH Miracle".

I read a book called "Patient Heal Thyself"....by Jordan Rubin. It was a long time ago when I was in a fog so I dont recall most of the book. I got kind of turned off because he promotes the Garden Of Life supplements in his book.....and they happen to be his own line of supplements.

Not to mention that they are very pricey.

But yeah.....if you take them....you'll get better.

[Rachel--24]

I just (pant) can't (wheeze) keep up!!!! (collapses in heap on keyboard)

LMAO... you're cracking me up tonight!