Omg...i Might Be On To Something

[Rachel--24]

RACHEL!!!! OMG!!! We almost met today, lol.

Donna...I was wondering if you had an appt today!! My appt was at 11...I was probably out of there sometime after 12 but before 12:30. I think Denise was with a patient when I was done. I could hear the computer and Anna was gone for the day. I was in the room just across from Denise. Doesnt sound like you were there yet though??

Dang....we must have totally just missed each other!!

I dont know Denise very well....only seen her 3 times. I'm surprised that she knew I was there.

Scott is the nicest guy...he had a friend who was assisting him and his friend was very nice as well.

Anyways...I've been really excited about the whole experience and all that I'm learning! I was thinking about it alot today and I realized that at some point during the course of this thread my interest in learning about this stuff has gone way beyond just finding answers for myself.

I've always been obsessive about researching the various possibilities....only it used to be primarily because I was searching for the answer that would get me well again. I realized today that I wasnt even thinking too much about the fact that I'm still sick...I was just so excited to be learning more.....and to be experiencing the ART. I think I get fascinated and forget that the primary reason for my being there is because I'm SICK.

Then, later on when I wanna eat something and have only about 4 things to choose from...I'm like...."Oh yeah...I gotta get myself better because this SUCKS!".

I also want to get better so that I can learn more. I dont think getting my health back would end my fascination or desire for getting involved in all of this. I just dont know where the road is gonna lead me or how I will ever get my foot in the door....but I'm definately interested. Its exciting to me because its something that not only pertains to me right now...but also, if I was to gain knowledge in this area, there is great potential for making a difference in the lives of others going through similar ordeals.

I never really found anything that held my interest for very long or seemed worth it to delve into. It seems like this will be something that will hold my interest long after I get better.

Ok...so now about my first ART session.

I never had any kind of Kinesiology before so this is all new to me.....except that BioSET is somewhat similar but a different type of energetic testing.

I didnt have to do anything except lay down on the table. His assistant had one hand on my leg throughout the testing...his other arm was extended out and I guess this was where the muscle testing came in. Scott used his friends arm to test my energy. I'm guessing in regular muscle testing its the patients own arm which is tested??

There was also some type of device near my head that Scott would play with but I have no idea what its function was in the testing. It seems even more complicated than BioSET.

I asked Scotts friend if he was learning...he said no....just assisting....everything about it is beyond his comprehension. I feel the same way.

He's also a Lyme patient...they both see my Dr. as well as Dr. Derkson...whom I'll be seeing next month. It seems like Scott is doing well in his fight with Lyme. Both guys appear healthy.

So....he would scan various things over my body checking for anything that is blocking my energy.

First he checked to make sure my nervous system was open...which it was. He said this is the case for most people but its possible that it can be blocked....just not very common.

I didnt know everything that was going on in the begining as he scanned various objects over my body. Right away he was commenting to his friend about something being strange....or unclear....his friend was nodding in agreement and of course I was wondering what the heck they were referring to.

He continued to scan alot of different things. He then asked me if I'd ever had any problems with my thyroid. I told him I had Graves Disease and had been treated with radioactive iodine....a big mistake on my part.

He said that the *only* area of my body showing any signs of stress is the area of my thyroid. He said it could be due to the destruction caused by the radiation. I have damage there so it may just always show up as a sign of stress. Personally, I think there could also be some autoimmune activity still going on there. Its clearly been a significant "victim" in all of this. I could be wrong but thats how I see it...my thyroid was a victim....my immune system started attacking it early on....most likely due to whatever is still making me sick.

So he told me that the strange thing to him is that I am NOT showing any signs of Lyme.

He checked and rechecked....looking for signs of stress but I am clear in the presence of everything related to Lyme. He had access to the BioSET vials as well as his own stuff. He had slides with all the various organisms on them. There was lyme, bartonella, babesia, ehrlichiosis, mycoplasma, herpes simplex and others....I had zero blockage with any of them.

He later showed me the slides and told me how everyone hes tested previously has showed a blockage with some of these slides. I dont show anything with ANY of them.

He asked me about my Dr. (Dr. S)...what Lyme tests did he order...what were the results....what bands were positive...why did he suspect Lyme, etc??? I told him everything.

He seemed kind of stunned that I wasnt showing signs of Lyme...he was saying he wished he could test that well for Lyme.

He continued with testing more things. He had disks, slides and BioSET panels....plus some other objects that I didnt recognize.

It seemed like he was scanning entire BioSet panels over my body. For example....instead of scanning me with a single vial....he was using the entire panel. If something in the panel was blocking me....he would then try to narrow it down. He had asked me about parasites....I told him they never could find any.....I've been tested several times.

Something was coming up in the parasite panel. He found the one that was showing up....I dont recall the name (couldnt begin to spell it) but I've heard of it. I think Dr. Rick at HN stool tested me for it. Anyways, Scott said it was probably the most common parasite and there is some debate as to whether or not it can cause illness....although he feels that it can.

As far as virus....HHV-6 showed up. I'm already aware of that one....but I'm wondering if it could be possibly be the miasm??

As he scanned a disk over me he said...."Fungus, Candida".

So yeah....candida showed up. Stupid Candida.

As he was scanning more things he said "Hmmm....its not Candida Albicans though".

That was kind of surprising to me. I think the Albican strain is still present but I was blocked by another strain of candida.

I told him Anna had me tested me for yeast antibodies and it was extremely high. He asked if the yeast antibodies were specific for candida?? I told him the test didnt indicate specific strains of yeast. He said it was most likely candida...but we cant know for sure if it wasnt specified.

Next was Metals.

There was a very strong and clear blockage to mercury and aluminum. <sigh>

Stupid dentist.

Scott asked me if Dr. S had tested me for metals. I told him no. I told him that was original reason I was referred to Dr. S.....but the attention turned to Lyme. He doesnt want to start chelation or any serious treatments until I'm doing better.

Scott said I should have him test me for the metals to see how serious it is. I told him I'm wary of DMPS challenge tests.....that I've read they can be harmful.

He said its the best test (hair analysis is also good) and the quantity of DMPS required for the challenge is small. He said it doesnt have to be IV DMPS...they have some type of spray and also chewable tablets that can be used for the challenge.

He had DMPS in the room so he tested me for it and I responded well to it. He said things can always change. He was doing DMPS chelation but after a few treatments he started reacting to it and had to stop. He said I may never react to it...everyone is different....right now my body accepts it as a treatment for heavy metals.

I have an appt. with Dr. S. in 2 weeks so we'll have alot to discuss compared to previous visits where he felt his hands were tied and we werent very certain about anything except the fact that there was no improvement and I still cant take any kind of supplements.

I have learned alot more about my illness since my last visit with him.

Ok....now for the kicker. He scanned me for molds and mycotoxins. BINGO.

There was a STRONG blockage. Guess which mold caused the most signifcant block??

ASPERGILLUS

I told him Anna was having me tested for this....that it shows up strongly in her testing as well.

He asked if Dr. S. has ever done any mold testing?? I said no...but he did grill me about molds in my environment quite a bit however, I dont believe molds from a building are making me sick.

I told Scott I dont notice a worsening of symptoms in any buildings I'm in....my symptoms dont improve away from any particular place either. I told him I did go into a moldy home once and was not able to remain in the house....I feel I would know if I entered a building with mold issues.

He said I wouldnt likely improve when I left a building....due to the fact that the mycotoxins would be circulating throughout my body long after I've left a place where I was exposed to it. I clearly am unable to detox these mycotoxins and they're making me sick.

He did say I would likely feel an obvious worsening of symptoms if I were to enter a building with mold.

Thats what I experienced at my friends house but never at home, work or at my Mom's.

He told me I should read a book called "Mold Warriors". He has a section on his BetterHealthGuy site about molds...I've read it so I was familiar with the book title.

He talked about how genetics can play a role in something like this....it could be that due to my genes I'm susceptible to this type of illness.

From his site....

Claire....I think you were commenting on this just the other day??

HLA genes code various proteins on the outer portion of cells. The immune system uses HLA to determine the difference between "self" and "non-self". HLA is involved in the steps responsible for antibody formation. These genes have been associated with an inability of the body to recover from illnesses resulting from Lyme disease, molds, and other sources. In the event that a person has a susceptible genotype, the body does not recognize the toxins as a foreign invader and this, they are allowed to remain in the body. This causes long-term and perpetual ill-health. It has been asserted that nearly 100% of people that become ill after exposure to a biotoxin can be shown to have a predisposition to that biotoxin through the HLA-DR genotype. Many of us have bodies that simply do not recognize the presence of these toxic substances and thus do nothing to eliminate them. Dr. Shoemaker uses the terms "Lyme susceptible" or "mold susceptible" or "multi-susceptible" to categorize one's HLA genotype.

This is interesting as well...

Quite interestingly, the genes for celiac disease/gluten intolerance have a significant overlap with the mold genotypes (e.g., DQ2 accounts for 90% of individuals diagnosed with traditional celiac disease). Thus, many individuals with a mold illness may be initially diagnosed only as having gluten intolerance, yet they never fully recover on a gluten-free diet alone. Coincidentally, the low amylose diet recommended as part of the treatment protocol is naturally a gluten-free diet.

Also, he said that if I do have Lyme....its clearly not showing up as part of my problem. He said that he's one who believes that *most* people with Lyme are asymptomatic. That the people who struggle with Lyme are the people who are more susceptible to the neurotoxins and less able to detox them.

He said most people are walking around totally unaffected by Lyme. He said if I have been exposed to Lyme (and there is evidence that I have been) I may be one of the people who is genetically able to detox Lyme and therefore not become ill from its toxins. Afterall, the symptoms of Lyme are a direct result of the neurotoxins produced by the bacteria. Some people arent susceptible to these toxins ....while others are extremely susceptible.

He said this does not minimize my problems because clearly I am suffering from the toxins produced by molds.

He said its hard to know if I have an infection of a mold...like Aspergillus...or if I'm extremely sensitive to the mycotoxins without actually having an infection.

He said I need thorough testing. He told me of 2 doctors who specialize in mold illness. One is more traditional in his approach and the other is not conventional and has a completely different approach.

I'm going to make an appt. with one of these guys and start testing.

He said Dr. S. is very good with this stuff too but it sounds like these guys have extended knowledge and experience.

My mom is wondering why I need to see so many doctors...why cant I just stick with Dr. S for everything??

Personally, I feel like this is very important stuff....my health is important to me.

She is also the one who felt that the doctors at Kaiser could help me....that they were good....and I was just being difficult.

She obviously has changed her thinking as far as that goes....but still...I dont think she "gets it".

Anyways, I want to see the person with the most knowledge regarding whatever issue I'm dealing with. For one thing....I feel there is less of a chance that something will be overlooked and the other thing is that I want to gain as much knowledge as I can. Every person involved is going to expand my knowledge about my health issues and as long as everyone is on the same page it can only work in my favor.

So....I'm going to try to get in to see one of these guys ASAP.

My appt. with Dr. Derksen is in 5 weeks. Scott said it would be great if I can get tested and have the results when I see her. I dont know if its gonna be possible though. It depends on how booked these guys are.....but yeah....if I had some results it would help alot.

He said they can test for many different antibodies against many different types of mold. Also, later they might want to do a gene test.....but I'm not so concerned with finding out genes yet. Right now I just want to know whats going on with the molds.

He said he'll see me again when Dr. Derksen is here because he'll be assisting her....he said he'll be the guy who doesnt say anything and just quietly assists her.

He's really interested in my case because he said its the first time he's seeing someone with chronic illness who is not showing a problem with Lyme.

He was saying that as much as he thinks Lyme is involved in everything....this is a reminder to him that sometimes its just not.

I thought that was funny. I know alot of us have been there and can relate to that type of thinking....whether its Celiac, Lyme, Candida or something else. When you learn about gluten intolerance its almost unthinkable that some people can eat it and not have some hidden problems with it. I think its inevitable...we start seeing "signs" in everyone around us.

Anyways he says that he's just learning and Dr. Derksen is the expert....with the experience of having worked with Dr. Klinghardt for a number of years. He's really wanting to see if she gets the same results when she tests me....especially with regards to Lyme. If she ends up showing something with Lyme he wants to know why its not showing when he's testing me. He was wondering if he was doing something wrong.

Honestly, I dont think he's wrong in his assessment. I've been saying for weeks now that I dont think Lyme is making me sick. Even if I have it I dont feel like its affecting me. I feel very strongly about this. I've always felt a great deal of uncertainty about Lyme whereas I feel very strongly about molds and metals being involved. I trust my instinct and I think I will continue to do so...and persue these other areas instead.

The only time I didnt follow my instinct I allowed Kaiser to destroy my thyroid. I had done research and knew with everything inside me that it wasnt the right thing. People told me to stop reading internet stuff and listen to what the doctors were saying. I was stupid to ignore my feelings and I made a huge mistake which I cannot take back.

All I can do now is make sure I think everything through and trust my instinct....it hasnt steered me wrong yet.

So he tested all of my supplements and medications to see if they actually helped with whatever they were taken for. My body really wanted and needed my thyroid meds. Well....I would hope so since I'm not producing anything on my own now.

Most of what I was taking was having some positive effect. I had bought some parasite supplement which he said was having no affect on anything. Nystatin was having a very small affect...enough that I should continue taking it but the benefits are small.

The Cats Claw tested well. He wanted to make sure I'd been off it for 2 days.....just in case I've been taking it and thats why I'm not showing any sign of Lyme. Nothing should be taken for 48 hours prior to the testing. I told him I havent taken it for about 5 days. So yeah...I'm just not showing Lyme.

He was saying at least I'm aware of Lyme and if symptoms ever were to show up I'd know. I could also continue with Cats Claw to ensure its kept in check if its there. He doesnt think I'll ever experience the full wrath of Lyme Disease. Good News!

I also asked if it were possible that the Lyme is not showing up because the molds and metals are so prevelant?? What if I addressed these issues.....could Lyme all of a sudden become an issue??

He said its possible it could be a layer that is not revealing itself at this time. For example, he tested negative for parasites but once he started treating Lyme and co-infections and taking care of these guys...all of a sudden parasites started showing up.

He did say that even if Lyme started to become more clear in ART.....I wouldnt all of a sudden have dramatic symptoms or illness from Lyme. I would just be aware of its presence and making sure to keep it in check.

He talked about the significance of having issues with both metals and fungus. Its the same stuff we've discussed in this thread and what Dr. S. and Anna have talked to me about as well. How the metals and the fungus bind with one another.....making things alot more complicated.

He said if I were to kill off a bunch of fungus.....at the same time I would be releasing the metals so that they will then be mobilized...and circulating around my body. Everything just gets tricky when these guys are working together.

I'm thinking I probably always had problems detoxing mycotoxins...so maybe they were always circulating throught my body to some extent. Then when the metals were realeased with the dental work a real serious problem developed.

Probably my body was particularly vulnerable for this type of illness under the wrong circumstances.

Scott had alot of treatment options available for testing......to see what might work best. He tried some different things used for treating fungal/mold issues. He found one that my body responded really well to. Its pretty cool to see how this works. For example if hes got the Aspergillus out and I'm being blocked by it he can then test various things to see if any of them "unblock" me.

I think thats how it goes. Anyways, I was just watching and some treatment options just showed no response or change whereas others might show slight improvement or BIG improvement. There was one thing that seemed to show a big improvement. It was something that Anna has available there but there was none in stock. He said if I want to try it out she can order me some....maybe it will bring some symptom relief for now.

At the end of the appt. he went back to testing Lyme again. All I can say is that if I'm gonna be the first for something....I'm glad I get to be the first to not show Lyme Disease.

This time he used one of BioSET's vials....the one labeled "Lyme Disease". He scanned it all over my body...and got nothing clear. He had me hold it...and still there was nothing. He said sometimes he was getting some very tiny response but mostly nothing. He said it wasnt consistent and it wasnt clear. He said in other patients its always clear. He never experienced this before...so thats why hes curious to see what Dr. Derksen says.

So thats about it. It was a great experience and I cant wait to do it again with Dr. Derksen.

I asked him if she mainly focuses on Lyme?? He said Lyme and Autism.

He said he's now getting involved and learning about the connection between Lyme and Autism....and the research going on with that. He is going to a conference coming up to learn more about this.

This is something that I did some research about and I posted a bit about it awhile back. It was fascinating stuff. Everything we discuss here is very intertwined and its very evident in the kids with Autism. They usually suffer from these issues.....metals, yeast, leaky gut, gluten/casein intolerance, intolerance to food chemicals, mold and the newer research shows another common factor....Lyme.

There are some kids I work with who fall somewhere on the Autistic spectrum. I'm not clear about the various degrees of Autism but one kid seems to be very clearly Autistic. I try to understand everything I can about him. I talk to him everyday....and I try to learn through my interactions with him.

In some ways he is way beyond us in his ability to remember facts and details about anything hes seen or read. I can mention the name of just about any famous person and he can state all the facts about that person...from the year and place they were born to the day and place they died, where they are buried and everything in between.

On the other hand he has no concept of time. I cant ask him how many hours he's worked....he doesnt know....he might answer "Oh....about 5 minutes."

Anyways, alot of people get irritated because he repeats the same lines over and over...but for me he makes going to work a little more pleasant. I'd like to learn more about Autism and what role all of the things we've discussed play in developing Autism.

Scott took notes as he was going through the process with me today. He will email me a report tomorrow so I might have more to add when I get the report. Dont know how I could have left anything out though. It seems like I've been typing for hours.

I'm very sleepy now.

G'nite.

[Rachel--24]

One more thing...

Andrea, do you remember me saying that I was unable to be in Becky's car cuz the "moldy" smell was making me sick. It was from a peach that had rolled under the seat and rotted before she found it...it happened long before and she only told me about it when I kept complaining of a "smell". She couldnt smell anything and thought I was exaggerating.

I was truelly sufferring headaches, brainfog, nausea and general "car sickness".

I think this is significant considering it was *before* I had the dental work and *before* I got sick.

I think it might prove what Anna is saying is true.....that this problem has been going on for a long time.

[AndreaB]

One more thing...

Andrea, do you remember me saying that I was unable to be in Becky's car cuz the "moldy" smell was making me sick.

I remember that.

Everything is so interesting.

With everything you've been writing I try to assimilate it and figure out if it would apply to my family or people I know as well.

I'm interested in getting the thermal testing done at some point in the future, which my doctor has mentioned to me (not that he said I should get it done though). I'm interested in bioset for myself and Talitha primarily, and ART sounds very interesting as well.

I'm wondering if Talitha is in the low end of problems with molds. She doesn't have a problem with all grains at this point but she's developed a problem with nuts. She tested a varying degree of intolerance to most (if not all) legumes. Seems like some things are cropping up more with her. I'm beginning to wonder if this rental is making us sicker. I know it's had leaking problems, although we've seen no mold. Also it was a filthy mess when the prior tennant moved out, the heat ducts are aweful. I was thinking of the aspergillus (sp?) that you mentioned being in the vents.

Another thing I think is interesting with you is the mercury and aluminum. Do amalgams have aluminum too? I know they are a mix of metals, but vaccines have a lot of mercury and aluminum in them. The mercury has been primarily left out now but the aluminum is still in there.

[AndreaB]

Thanks everyone for your support with my dad. It's been greatly appreciated.

I'm doing pretty good overall. Just miss the opportunity to call whenever I want.

[Judyin Philly]

hi ANDREA.

GLAD TO SEE YOU

I KNOW I WANTED SO BADLY TO CALLED MY MOM AND DAD LAST NITE AND TELL THEM ABOUT THE CAR...BUT NO CAR IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM...SO BITTER SWEET.

I KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE PHONE CALLS MEAN.

LOVE JUDY

[AndreaB]

hi ANDREA.

GLAD TO SEE YOU

I KNOW I WANTED SO BADLY TO CALLED MY MOM AND DAD LAST NITE AND TELL THEM ABOUT THE CAR...BUT NO CAR IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM...SO BITTER SWEET.

I KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE PHONE CALLS MEAN.

LOVE JUDY

As my husband says, you don't realize what you had until you lose it. I know that applies to many different things.

Yesterday was the day I would have normally called to talk so that was a little more challenging. I'm more concerned about my brother, but he's doing ok.

Donna,

I see you. Hope you are doing ok. I'm sorry if this has brought up memories that aren't good for you.

[Rachel--24]

Andrea,

You should always be concerned about mold when there has been any type leaks. You dont always have to see mold....its sometimes not apparant. It can be in the walls or hidden elsewhere.

A girl on another thread was posting about all her symptoms going away when she left the country but she got sick again when she came home. She thought she was getting gluten in her house. I suggessted she look for mold. She said she didnt have mold....she did at one time but she cleaned it and its not a problem anymore. I was still thinking mold.

The next day she posted that she looked around again and she did find mold in a corner of a room.

I do think there may be a genetic link...just like some people are susceptible to Celiac....people can also be more susceptible to molds than other people.

Also what Scott had written was that the Celiac gene DQ2 was also a gene for mold susceptibility.

Well...I got my email from Scott...with his findings from yesterdays session.

He's not saying that Lyme isnt an issue.

This is what he wrote to Anna..

There are enough indications that Rachel may be dealing with Lyme Disease that I would not rule this out even though it did not appear with ART today. I do think another session when Dr. Derksen is in town could be of value.

There was really no indication with ART but there is the positive bands on Western Blots, positive IFA (although not 100% specific to Lyme) and BioSET shows exposure to Lyme.

I also remember that Dr. S. said that BioSET was overly sensitive so the testing can pick up things that are not actually causing problems. I dont think this is the case with ART. I do look forward to my session with Dr. Derksen to be more clear about this.

My first contact with Scott was after I got my Western Blot results....I had emailed him to ask questions about Lyme and if he thought my test results had significance. He must still have that info....this is what he wrote to me last night...

I don't think that Lyme is a non-issue for you. I looked back at your earlier test results that you had emailed me and they do seem to indicate that as part of your problem. I will be interested in seeing if it shows up in your session with Dr. Derksen. Sometimes the body reveals things layer by layer.

I am still confidant in the results of yesterdays session. I know that Scott is in the learning process but the results only indicated what I already feel very strongly about with regards to Lyme. I'm not saying its not there....I dont feel it is making me sick though. We'll find out more next month though.

He wrote that he found Candida, Aspergillus and Blastocystis Hominis (parasite).

He found mercury and aluminum.

He suggests discussing a urine challenge test (for metals) with Dr. S.

He offers suggestions on some of the things he found to be effective and compatible with my body for treatment possibilites.

I'm going to order the Mold Warriors book he suggests.

[Rachel--24]

Just wanted to give (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) to Andrea, Donna and Judy.

and anyone else who is feeling sad about the loss of loved ones.

[NoGluGirl]

OMG--I had the same dream with my grandma...that's gotta mean something!!!

Andrea, I am SO sorry. I am glad, though, that you did have the chance to spend a lot of time with him when you visited. I hope you have lots of memories like that to comfort you.

Dear Donna and Fiddle-Faddle,

I have had similar experiences as well! It is common for loved ones to visit us in dreams, because it is easiest to get through to us then. My aunt died on Mother's Day the other year. She had colon cancer. I felt guilty because I was unwell myself and never got to see her when she and my uncle came into town. When Tasha Bear, our beloved Standard Schnauzer died, I had a dream the next day. It was like she was never gone in it! Then, when Pope John Paul II died, I was sad. Not long after, I had a dream. Actually, I am not so sure it was just a dream. I think I really was in Heaven! It was so white and beautiful, peaceful and bright! He was standing there with his arms open, smiling, ready to hug me! Then of course I woke up. It was so beautiful. I am sure I was there!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

[Rachel--24]

Well, yes, shockingly, lol. I was surprised at how shocked I was. One of the first things I thought about was that how odd it was for her to die so soon after her son! Stunned is a good word, and yes I was a little sad. Somehow I wanted things to turn out for her...kind of like the underdog thing.

Donna, me too...I always wanna root for the underdog. With her...she just seemed to get involved in all the wrong things but she also had some kind of vulnerability about her.....like she was just always wanting to be loved.

I read that there is a $375 million inheritence. I knew there was money...but didnt realize it was that much.

I'm thinking foul play.

What are the odds of her son falling dead (and only being 20) and the same thing happening to her....only 6 months later??

It seems like they both died in a very similar way...and with no obvious sighn as to what happened?? I know she had hired people to investigate the death of her son and I dont think the book is closed on that case yet.

Now 3 guys are claiming to be the father of the baby. Looks like its gonna be a nasty fight for custody.

I dont know anything about how inheritence works but I'm worried....I'm worried if someone killed Anna Nicole and her son...would they then also kill the baby?? Who gets the money if the baby dies??

[Judyin Philly]

Just wanted to give (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) to Andrea, Donna and Judy.

and anyone else who is feeling sad about the loss of loved ones.

THANKS SO MUCH RACHEL...I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AND READING AND ALL CAUGHT UP...I ESP AM INTERESTED IN THE DQ2 GENE AND THE MOLD CONNECTION YOU JUST POSTED. . SEE I'M LISTENING ..JUST NOT POSTING. I HAVE AUTOMATIC EMAIL ALERTS FOR OMG SO I CAN READ WHAT'S POSTED AND THEN COPY WHAT I WANT TO REMEMBER IN MY 'RACHEL' FILE.

I'LL BE SURE TO POST MY ENTEROLABS RESULTS WHEN THEY COME..YOU CAN HELP ME, OK

dONNA, GUESS I MISSED YOUR LOSS OF LOVED ONE..SORRY.

I KNOW WHEN EACH OF US POSTS,, IT ALWAYS TRIGGERS OUR PERSONAL MEMORIES.

WE TRAVEL DOWN THOSE SAME FEELINGS ALL OVER AGAIN.

I KNOW BEV JUST HAD A HARD TIME LAST WEEK OVER THE ANNIV OF HER MOM.

I POSTED TO ANDREA IN D/S TODAY THAT I REALLY FELT DAD'S ARM AROUND ME AS WE WERE WANDERING THE USED CAR LOT LOOKING FOR A CAR YESTERDAY..I REALLY FELT HIM SAYING...'''YOU GO GIRL...IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU GOT A GOOD CAR FOR YOURSELF'''' AS I SAID,,,BITTER SWEET.

LOVE ALL YOUR INFO RACHEL.

[dlp252]

The thing I've been struggling with is that I really wanted to be down there for my dad. Somehow I don't think he would have wanted me to see him as sick as he was. I wouldn't have gone down over Thanksgiving had he not granted permission. I'm glad his suffering is over. His wife's brother told me that they knew when he reached a certain point that that would be it. When things started happening Sunday night they knew that was the point.

You WERE there for your dad in many ways. Physically you were there at a good time, when he was responsive and actually could interact with you! I'm sure that gave him comfort in his last hours!

OMG--I had the same dream with my grandma...that's gotta mean something!!!

Wow, I agree!

Donna...I was wondering if you had an appt today!! My appt was at 11...I was probably out of there sometime after 12 but before 12:30. I think Denise was with a patient when I was done. I could hear the computer and Anna was gone for the day. I was in the room just across from Denise. Doesnt sound like you were there yet though??

My appointment was at 1:30, but I got there around 11:35 or so...I was walking past, maybe as you were finishing up! I almost went in just to check if they had any openings earlier, but decided to go buy some walking shoes instead, lol.

I dont know Denise very well....only seen her 3 times. I'm surprised that she knew I was there.

I think she knew because she said she treated you the day before, and between the two of us adding our pieces of info we determined it was you, lol.

Scott is the nicest guy...he had a friend who was assisting him and his friend was very nice as well.

He seems very nice. He did say hello to me while I was waiting in the lobby. I sat down about 1:00 and was just hanging out, and I was wondering if that was him cuz it looked so much like his picture on the website. I've actually seen him there before too I think. I asked Denise if he was going to do the ART testing there regularly, but she didn't know. If so, I'd like to try it too. I think I'm finding a lot of the major pieces with the metals, candida and molds, but I'd sort of like to know where to focus first, lol.

My brain can't remember everything you report, but I sure love reading it. It's all very interesting! And, yes, I think all your experiences both with mainstream doctors and all this "alternative" testing would make you an excellent person to help others. There is no way better to understand what someone is going through than to have gone through it yourself!

~~~

Okay, so I had a nutrition appointment with Dr. Rick on Friday. He took me off many of my supplements (YAY), and is having me continue with the Support Adrenals (which is almost a multivitamin), calcium and progest (progesterone but cycles of two weeks on and two weeks off). He said to take the melatonin and valerian root only as needed now and that if my adrenals are working I should be able to sleep better. Um, no. I guess they're not working well then, cuz I haven't slept in two nights now! I fall asleep okay, but the first night woke up at 2:30 and last night 1:30, and didn't really get much sleep afterwards. I'm debating on whether or not I want to take them tonight just so I don't start the work week exhausted, or to give it a chance...ah decisions, decisions, lol.

I also have to do another stool test this week to retest to make sure H.Pylori is gone. Stupid pylori!

[AndreaB]

Rachel,

Mitch and I have dq2, Micah has double dq2 and Talitha has none (she's dq8).

We should probably look at moving sometime in the near future. Can't afford it right now though. We'd planned on moving in the next couple years. It's not easy finding decent rentals that are affordable for us. I wouldn't be surprised if this place is contributing to our sensitivities and if we stay here a long time I'm sure it will get worse. I'm really thinking about getting bioset for Talitha for sure and possible me. Next in line would be Mitch. How do you find a reputable bioset practitioner? I know there are some in Portland Oregon, which is close to us. Maybe we'll be able to look into testing this fall or next year.

So far Micah is doing pretty good as far as intolerances, he had the mild malabsorption problem. I wonder if he would have gotten more intolerances if we'd finished out his shots. He didn't and won't have the 4-6 year ones.

I'm super interested in what your doctors have to say about everything.

[dlp252]

I see you. Hope you are doing ok. I'm sorry if this has brought up memories that aren't good for you.

I'm good! I'm finally at a good point with my dad, although I still do have moments where I'll remember with sadness. Somethings that will never change are his birthday, father's day and Christmas. I always remember him especially at those times. But, alas, it's been 10 years and time really does heal some things.

Just wanted to give (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))) to Andrea, Donna and Judy.

and anyone else who is feeling sad about the loss of loved ones.

Thanks so much!!!

Dear Donna and Fiddle-Faddle,

I have had similar experiences as well! It is common for loved ones to visit us in dreams, because it is easiest to get through to us then. My aunt died on Mother's Day the other year. She had colon cancer. I felt guilty because I was unwell myself and never got to see her when she and my uncle came into town. When Tasha Bear, our beloved Standard Schnauzer died, I had a dream the next day. It was like she was never gone in it! Then, when Pope John Paul II died, I was sad. Not long after, I had a dream. Actually, I am not so sure it was just a dream. I think I really was in Heaven! It was so white and beautiful, peaceful and bright! He was standing there with his arms open, smiling, ready to hug me! Then of course I woke up. It was so beautiful. I am sure I was there!

Sincerely,

NoGluGirl

OMGosh, I also had a dream after my first dog Coco (West Highland White Terrier) died! She was playing and having a very good time!

like she was just always wanting to be loved.

Exactly!

I read that there is a $375 million inheritence. I knew there was money...but didnt realize it was that much.

I'm thinking foul play.

What are the odds of her son falling dead (and only being 20) and the same thing happening to her....only 6 months later??

It seems like they both died in a very similar way...and with no obvious sighn as to what happened?? I know she had hired people to investigate the death of her son and I dont think the book is closed on that case yet.

Now 3 guys are claiming to be the father of the baby. Looks like its gonna be a nasty fight for custody.

I dont know anything about how inheritence works but I'm worried....I'm worried if someone killed Anna Nicole and her son...would they then also kill the baby?? Who gets the money if the baby dies??

Yep, the paternity thing is really weird. Also weird is that the stepson (Anna's late husband's son) who was fighting also died I think.

That is one ton of money...seems a shame to go to one person although it would be nice if the baby were well taken care of...like good schools, etc.

dONNA, GUESS I MISSED YOUR LOSS OF LOVED ONE..SORRY.

I KNOW WHEN EACH OF US POSTS,, IT ALWAYS TRIGGERS OUR PERSONAL MEMORIES.

WE TRAVEL DOWN THOSE SAME FEELINGS ALL OVER AGAIN.

I KNOW BEV JUST HAD A HARD TIME LAST WEEK OVER THE ANNIV OF HER MOM.

It's okay! I was about 10 years ago, but I still have my moments I guess.

[AndreaB]

He said to take the melatonin and valerian root only as needed now and that if my adrenals are working I should be able to sleep better. Um, no. I guess they're not working well then, cuz I haven't slept in two nights now! I fall asleep okay, but the first night woke up at 2:30 and last night 1:30, and didn't really get much sleep afterwards. I'm debating on whether or not I want to take them tonight just so I don't start the work week exhausted, or to give it a chance...ah decisions, decisions, lol.

I also have to do another stool test this week to retest to make sure H.Pylori is gone. Stupid pylori!

I hope you get your sleep figured out. I get really grouchy when I don't get my sleep.

Oh the fun of stool tests. Hope that stuff is gone.

[Rachel--24]

I think she knew because she said she treated you the day before, and between the two of us adding our pieces of info we determined it was you, lol.

Its not hard to figure out who I am. I'm the one who always wear baseball hats, cant take any supplements and cant eat any foods.

Yesterday I didnt have a hat on because it was Sat. and I wasnt coming from work...but usually I look like my avatar. So if you see a girl with a hat like that (and looks kind of brain-fogged)....its me.

He seems very nice. He did say hello to me while I was waiting in the lobby. I sat down about 1:00 and was just hanging out, and I was wondering if that was him cuz it looked so much like his picture on the website. I've actually seen him there before too I think. I asked Denise if he was going to do the ART testing there regularly, but she didn't know. If so, I'd like to try it too. I think I'm finding a lot of the major pieces with the metals, candida and molds, but I'd sort of like to know where to focus first, lol.

I dont know how frequently he'll be doing ART. I know he was doing it for 2 Saturdays this month. Next month he'll be assisting Dr. Derksen...so not actually doing it himself.

Anna feels he's good enough to where he can start charging for his time. I feel that he's good...he's the type who is extremely motivated...alot of determination and desire to help others. He has alot of knowledge he's picked up by becoming involved and spending time learning from people like Dr. Derksen and Dr. Klinghardt.

I wanted to give him a check for his time yesterday...he wouldnt accpet anything. He just hoped that the session was useful to me. It definately was. I dont know if he feels enough confidence in himself yet to where he would feel comfortable charging people for the testing. I know that I would feel comfortable paying him....even though I'm aware he's not a Dr. or anything.

I would most likely feel the same way he does if I were in his shoes and really wanting the experience of applying what I've learned and actually performing the ART. I think the more experience he gets the more his confidence will grow. For example if Dr. Derksen also finds no issues with Lyme when she tests me....if her results are in-line with his....I think he will feel more sure of himself.

Next time I email him...I'll ask him if he plans on doing more ART sessions and how someone can schedule with him for that. Anna probably knows too...if you're really interested you can probably ask her....tell her you're interested in having ART done. Tell her your mold-infested friend Rachel had it done and it was helpful to her.

[CarlaB]

Rachel, I did the 6 hour urine test for metals and took four pills at the beginning of the test. The pills didn't feel like they had any effect on me at all. I don't have the results of the test yet. I had mercury and aluminum show up in my hair analysis, but that can mean that you're getting rid of them ... you can be holding onto them and have them not show up at all.

The aluminum can come from foil ... covering dishes with it for cooking ... lots of cookware (especially in restaurants) is made from aluminum because it's so light.

Andrea, is your landlord interested in owning another rental? We have two rental houses and whenever we have one vacant and it isn't quite what someone is looking for, we tell them that if they find a house, we'll buy it and rent to them. Usually they end up looking in price ranges they can't afford, but if you asked him what price range for a certain rent, it might work out for you. I always thought it was a good idea because I really clean up the rentals ... if they pick one out, then I don't have to do the cleaning and painting - they do! It might be an idea for you. Too bad you're not here ... we'd like to buy another, but it's my "job" and I'm not up to cleaning and painting.

[Rachel--24]

I had mercury and aluminum show up in my hair analysis, but that can mean that you're getting rid of them ... you can be holding onto them and have them not show up at all.

Yeah.....this is something I've always suspected but especially now that I'm aware of the mold/yeast situation. The metals would be tied up with the fungus....I wouldnt be detoxing it.

[AndreaB]

Andrea, is your landlord interested in owning another rental? We have two rental houses and whenever we have one vacant and it isn't quite what someone is looking for, we tell them that if they find a house, we'll buy it and rent to them.

I don't know how many rentals they have. I do know of one other tiny 2 bed trailer type one. This place has the option of lease with option to buy which we declined.

[AndreaB]

My hair analysis showed arsenic and cadmium as my highest with titanium just below that. The aresenic was the only thing above the 68th percentile (in the yellow bar). Mercury showed real low.

[Rachel--24]

Oh yeah...more of what Scott had sent me about our session yesterday.

What seemed to be testing most strongly today was mold/fungal issues.

He listed a couple products that tested well for these issues.

I would suggest a consult with Dr. M. He can do a useful mold antibody panel. Also does EPD injections for mold desensitization that have been helpful for many.

The injections are interesting. I've read about these injections in one of my candida books. They have been helpful for people who are highly reactive to molds/mycotoxins.

I'm gonna have to see what more I can find out about the injections.

[dlp252]

I hope you get your sleep figured out. I get really grouchy when I don't get my sleep.

I don't grouchy as much as I get clumsy and really accident prone, lol. I'm a danger to myself without sleep.

Tell her your mold-infested friend Rachel had it done and it was helpful to her.

I'll do that, and next you'll get a really nice letter from ANNA saying they'll do their best to help me.

[Rachel--24]

I'll do that, and next you'll get a really nice letter from ANNA saying they'll do their best to help me.

How funny...I still have that card HN sent me. I never went back there to get my last test results. One day I'll pop in there and thank Dr. Rick for sending me to the other Dr. and let him know how I'm doing now.

I also went shopping yesterday.

Remember when I thought I lost my new jacket....and ended up buying another one??

Well...I wanted to exchange one....instead of having 2 very similar jackets. So now almost all the jackets are on sale...a huge price difference. I was able to get TWO new jackets by exchanging the one that was bought at full price. AWESOME!

Man...I was really happy yesterday.

[happygirl]

x

[AndreaB]

Thanks Laura.

I'm starting through the somewhat angry stage now. Not at my dad though. It has to do with not being contacted when things started happening. It was a friend that contacted my mom. I should have been contacted Monday! Not the friend calling my mom on Tuesday and then my mom getting ahold of me on Wednesday (she called Tues but I hadn't returned her call) and then my dad's wife's brother calling mom on Thursday.

NO ONE CALLED ME AND I THINK I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED!!!

I'm sure it would have been very stressful if I had gone down. Not so much seeing dad but feeling like I was an intruder and not welcome. I never would have seen my dad's wife had he not insisted she take him to his dialysis the day we left in November. As it was I only saw her for a couple minutes. I so wanted to be there for him in person.